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Extra, Extra: Winning Ads, Debate One-Liners, and Rob Ford Lobbying Scandals

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  • Even if you watched last night’s provincial leaders’ debate, you might not be quite sure who won (because if there’s one thing we know about debates, it’s that there’s always a single winner). Thank goodness for newspapers! On the front page of Metro this morning: “Horwath Leads.” And on the front page of 24 Hours this morning: “Hudak wins debate with laser-like focus on jobs.” As you can see, these front pages communicate very different messages, and that’s in part because they are actually paid ads.
  • If there’s another thing we know about debates, it’s that political arguments should be boiled down as often as possible to zingers, one-liners, and quotable quotes. So which was your favourite? “Your tough medicine is certainly not Buckley’s. It tastes awful, but it’s not going to work”? Or perhaps, “If I don’t keep my promises on the million jobs plan, I’ll resign. I’ll step down from office”?
  • If you’re growing tired of videos and drunken rants and would prefer emails and lobbying scandals instead, well, it appears that you’re in luck: the Globe is inviting readers to “follow the e-mail trail that links the Fords to printer with family firm dealings.”

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  • torontothegreat

    What’s really disturbing about this latest Ford family revelation isn’t Deco, but the laws that protect the City from this behaviour

    The Fords’ actions do not violate the Municipal Conflict of Interest Act, which applies only to votes on the council floor

    And paid ads? How is that legal? Isn’t it misleading/false advertisement?

    • wklis

      Does Rob Ford even know how to use a computer? Phone calls, yes. E-mails, maybe through an underling.

      • torontothegreat

        I don’t really understand what that has to do with Ford’s corruption or my comment that points out how disturbing it is that there is no violation of the Municipal Conflict of Interest Act.

  • OgtheDim

    Those paid ads might have backfired.

    I saw more then one person tear them off to get to the real news underneath.

    • dsmithhfx

      They really pissed me off. To be expected from sun media, but torstar? Jeesh.

      • torontothegreat

        Torstar needs to get paid too I guess…

  • Graeme

    Ford is finished. This is the one thing he couldn’t afford to do. Every other awful thing he did or said was shrugged off with “well, he’s honest with our money, at least”. No more. Good riddance, you fat jerk.

    • bobloblawbloblawblah

      I bet it won’t hurt him. The people that love Ford will either not pay this much attention and/or will view this as a harmless attempt to help his family business while helping a multinational that wants to do business with the city. Ford is a hypocritical sack of dung and deserves to be run out of city hall, but ultimately it will be over the crack and gang association. The more conservative types that put him in back in 2010 won’t forgive that.

      • Graeme

        I’m not so sure. I think there are a lot of people out there who decided about a year ago that if he minded their money honestly, they didn’t care what else he did. He’ll lose them over this.

        • Notcleverguy

          Graeme, I wish I could agree with you, but there have been numerous cases of Ford being as bad as anyone with public money and public trust, This, the Apollo thing, The hiring of David Price, spending a lot of money on removing bike lanes for the only reason that he doesn’t like cyclists, and the penalties he has caused by cancelling the metro-linx plan, to do his useless unfunded subway thing, plus many many more. Ford Nation just seems to ignore them all, they are just that stupid.
          It’s amazing what people will ignore for $60 worth of vehicle tax savings and a free hotdog.

          • Graeme

            Good point. And they really are some special kind of stupid. But it just feels different this time. Reeks of straight corruption as opposed to his usual stupidity. Hey, we can hope, right?

          • NayChan

            Combine anger, stupidity and spite together and you have the epitome of a Ford supporter.

          • mytwocentsworth

            I’d agree to anger and spite, not stupidity. It’s all about the emotions.

          • bobloblawbloblawblah

            But people understand a lot of the things Ford rants about and he did deliver that $60 bucks. A lot of people were angry over yet another tax(VRT) and there’s a lot of people who dislike the polished politician who has all the pat answers and spin doctors. To these people Ford is the real deal: a straight shooter and guy who is concerned about keeping taxes low. His followers also distrust the media so yet another story from the media could only be part of that anti Ford conspiracy. I agree that Ford is through — he’s up against a tough field in this election and his campaign is disorganized and run by Doug Ford, who is an idiot, but his supporters will likely stand by him on this (the umpteeth) scandal.

          • NayChan

            I disagree. No one cared about the 60 dollar tax until Ford (well Kouvalis) set the narrative. Then the less intelligent of the species – suburban SUV drivers etc., decided yes! That was what was wrong with their lives Why should they be punished for ruining the environment and clogging up roads. It works because simplistic slogans and positions work for simple people.

          • bobloblawbloblawblah

            That’s not true. I know people who voted for Ford based on his anti-VRT stand and some of them were left leaning types. It made a lot people angry that Toronto drivers had to pay that $60 while people just north of Steeles didn’t. They didn’t care how the money was used or whether the tax was needed. They resented paying something that others weren’t and gawd knows Ford can play on resentment.

          • rich1299

            Of course they had no problem when transit fares went up to cover the loss of the VRT.

          • NayChan

            Honestly, no one who is really and truly on the left would have any problems paying 60 dollars for the privilege of driving a car. People on the left don’t tend to be motivated by selfishness on that level. I think the Ford insanity is heavily psychological and deeply personal to his hard core supporters. This is far past normalcy. It’s either willful ignorance (and how is that possible at this point?) or lack of ability to think critically.

          • torontothegreat

            Intelligence has nothing to do with it. I know several North Yorker’s that votes for Ford precisely because of the VRT – these are well-educated, successful people.

            Greed, not intelligence drove that SUV off the lot.

          • NayChan

            Bang on.

          • mytwocentsworth

            It was all of those things plus the outrageous behaviour of a few union members during the garbage strike. Also the garbage strike itself. Rotting garbage ruined many a backyard bbq.

          • NayChan

            I lived not far from one of the garbage dumps sites, and while it was not pleasant, no one was dispensing smelling salts to the GTA. Backbone.

          • mytwocentsworth

            I guess you weren’t in the crosshairs of a strong evening breeze, while trying to enjoy a burger and a salad. Or in the path of rude, striking workers blocking your way to disposing bags of decomposing garbage. These guys enraged a large neighbourhood so much, that they were out in the street yelling ‘Ford for mayor!’ just before the election.

            I’ve been a union member all my working life, but I was ashamed of these bullies, who gave us all a bad name.
            BTW, the GTA is irrelevant here; the strike was in the city, only.

          • torontothegreat

            Goddamned those people who are exercising their democratic and constitutional rights if it gets in the way of me eating a hamburger!

          • TheSotSays

            One Sunday afternoon on 1010, Ford offered up a long discussion of his thoughts on transportation and it goes basically like this:

            a) We need jobs down town
            b) Therefore we need to encourage employers to start up and to remain down town.
            c) Because of the high cost of training employees, one factor that will discourage employers is high employee turnover.
            d) If job providers undertake the high cost of training people only to have them leave because it’s too tough to get to work it will impact negatively on the City.
            e) Bicycles are a large factor. There are many Toronto people going to work on bicycles and if they get killed or maimed in the traffic it costs a lot of money for business owners to replace them.
            f) The transportation infrastructure must be such that all people can travel to and from work easily and safely.
            g) Everyone knows that the traffic movement in the City gets worse every day and that because of poor planning in the past we have a large mess growing larger every day.
            h) Therefore Ford wants as much TTC junk off the streets and into the tunnels as he can get and also, because of their importance, he wants increased and improved bicycle routes that do not imperil the safety of people getting to and from work.

            Your bicycle information is wrong and the City, for sound business reasons, is investing large amounts of taxpayer money to ensure that bicycles can be safely and happily pedalled to work.

            So, unfortunately for the NDP a lot of people listened carefully to Ford when he was on the weekly radio and know for sure he’s the only one in that City Hall mad house who makes any long term sense on transportation. On top of that he’s the only candidate out there who can be trusted absolutely with our tax dollars.

          • OgtheDim

            The % of people who listen to 1010 is really really really low. Explains a few things if your bubble is within that listening group.

            Ford won based on

            a) outrage over the garbage strike

            b) “stop the gravy train”:

            *****

            What he has done since has done nothing to stop the gravy train.

          • TheSotSays

            Well I’m voting for Ford to eradicate NDP influence at Toronto City Hall and here are just a handful of hard reasons why:

            a) Miller of the NDP gave us tax increases of approx 28% and he spent the money.
            b) Miller of the NDP gave us the vehicle registration fees and he spent the money.
            c) Miller of the NDP gave us a special land transfer tax and he spent the money.
            d) Miller of the NDP gave us a grocery bag tax but allowed his buddies at Loblaws etc. to spend the money.

            But on top of that Miller of the NDP increased our City of Toronto liabilities by $6.6 billion and he spent that money too..

            In addition, Miller of the NDP neglected maintenance on the Gardner for ideological reasons and according to recent reports it may cost a billion dollars to repair the thing. So Miller of the NDP left us with that bill as well.

            Also, I listened to NDP Chow at the Canadian Club on Tuesday and I’m not voting for a continuation of anything like that.

          • OgtheDim

            You were expecting him to put tax revenue in a sock drawer?

            How CheeMiss of you…..

          • TheSotSays

            Well over in Detroit, there were plenty of folks thinking like you and Dave Miller. Here’s one of their houses going for $1,000.

            http://www.lfpress.com/2014/05/15/got-1000-buy-a-stunning-house-in-detroit

          • Don River

            And how many Toronto houses are going for $1,000?

          • TheSotSays

            Yours?

          • Don River

            Keep dreaming.

          • mytwocentsworth

            A person I know, still supports Ford because of the garbage strike in 2009, He is otherwise intelligent, but is still angry at the union members who tried to block him from entering a city park to deposit his garbage. The stench from this neighbourhood park in the summer is still a fresh memory.
            I wonder if there are many others who are still bitter about that strike.

          • dsmithhfx

            He didn’t get the memo, then: Rob Ford voted to extend the strike.

        • TheSotSays

          He won’t lose me. The NDP wackos picked themselves a dud, tax plundering candidate.

          Did you catch Chow yesterday making a fool of herself over at the Canadian Club luncheon?

          • NayChan

            Nope, but I’m reading you making a fool of yourself right here. Great job.

      • MrLittlejeans

        The Fords are over and done with. This latest scandal regarding conflict of interest involving city hall printing and their company will drive them out of office ( and maybe to prison). Even without this latest scandal, Rob Ford is DONE.

        • bobloblawbloblawblah

          What I’m hoping for is that he limps into the election on October 27th and runs no better than 4th. I really want to see the Brothers Dimm resoundingly crushed and sent packing for good.

        • torontothegreat

          It won’t do anything. It’s not even a violation of the Municipal Conflict of Interest Act

    • NayChan

      This is not his first time. The last time they excused it by saying he was helping Toronto by helping his business buddies. They don’t care about Ford’s performance, corruption, lies and deceit. They just want to stick it to those who they see as ruining their lives. Everyone but themselves. Cowards. The entire bunch of the remaining Fors supporters. Weak in character, low in morals, and spiteful as heck.

  • Notcleverguy

    “The irrefutable evidence that we 100% did this, is just a lot of hooey.” – Doug Ford

    • NayChan

      Meaning they absolutely did it, and too freaking bad

  • Angie Mac

    Must be nice. My business is going to take a hit in the foreseeable future, due to the changing economic climate in China. Unfortunately, I’m not mayor, so I’m going to have to simply work hard to subsidize my losses.

    As I said, must be nice.

  • Notcleverguy

    The picture is priceless, Ford pretending to be reading.

    • Don River

      He’s just looking at the pictures.