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Say Goodbye to Jilly’s

Streetcar Developments has bought the historic Broadview Hotel.

Photo by smedly, from the Torontoist Flickr pool.

“OK, east-enders, climb down off the ceiling. Jilly’s is not going anywhere.” So wrote the National Post‘s Peter Kuitenbrouwer in 2013, when rumours circulated that the Broadview Hotel, located at Queen and Broadview, was structurally unsound and its well-known tenant—Jilly’s strip club—could be on its way out.

Well, east-enders can climb back onto the ceiling, because Streetcar Developments—which has worked on other projects in the area—has announced that it has purchased the building, originally constructed in 1893. Jilly’s, whose lease was on the verge of expiring, will be departing, as will those who’ve made the hotel home.

Streetcar will begin by addressing “significant structural issues” and then turn its focus “to revive this building to a landmark everyone in the area can be proud of.” According to the news release, that likely won’t involve condominiums—so is the Drake Hotel poised to face some healthy east-end competition?

Comments

  • MLO

    Drake/Gladstone east is a good guess…

  • Jim from Leslieville

    It’s as good as gone, now.

  • Zalokar62

    It’s about time. I saw this coming years ago when I saw the documentary “Last Call at the Gladstone Hotel”

  • RedneckDerp

    Sadly, I will no longer be able to stop in for a dance from a 300 lb behemoth while waiting to connect between the Queen and King streetcars. RIP Jilly’s. Any votes for the new “most pathetic strip club in Toronto that is obviously a front for organized crime”?!

    • andrew97

      Does House of Lancaster still exist?

      • bobloblawbloblawblah

        Yes, it does. I’d also think the Zanzibar on Yonge would be contender for the Most pathetic Strip Club too.

        • Zalokar62

          My vote…. Filmore’s!

  • Sadie

    Oh god, Drake Hotel east? Hopefully it won’t attract the same boring yuppy crowd the Drake does.

    • Tony Spencer

      Oh, Sadie. You’re not that boring.

    • Notcleverguy

      Well we know Muzik has the coke crowd cornered.

    • torontothegreat

      Leslieville already does, you’re about 10 years too late for this comment.

    • vampchick21

      Yuppie? The 1980′s called and they want their label back. Get with the times, they’re called hipsters now.

      • UsedCarSalesman

        Excuse me, hipsters are self-identifying authentic people. Yuppies have always lacked the authenticity of hipsters because they sell out to the man.

        • vampchick21

          But…but….1980s term.

  • milanista1

    Please repeat at the flophouse located in an historic (or at least historic looking) building at King/Strachan

    • mariapd

      I live in the area. People live in that “hotel”, are you proposing they’re kicked out? Just wondering.

      • tyrannosaurus_rek

        People lived in the Gladstone and people live at Jilly’s upstairs. What makes the people at King and Strachan special?

      • milanista1

        I also live in the area and I’m aware of the people living there.
        I’d just like the building to be restored as it is not in good condition and I’d rather see it revamped instead of it remaining in a state of disrepair until it becomes ripe for demolition. That’s all I’m saying.

        • bobloblawbloblawblah

          I suspect that someone is holding onto the building waiting for the right moment to sell and make a killing. That would be a shame if it were torn down for more glass condos. The Palace is an interesting building.

          • vampchick21

            I go by it every day on my way to and from work, and I imagine what it must have looked like 100 years ago. There are some lovely stain glass windows on the side facing Strachan with inset entrances, and the entire building looks as if it was pretty high end in it’s heyday. I could easily imagine it being turned into something similar to Gladstone. Same with the Broadview Hotel.

        • dsmithhfx

          Can you say “insurance fire” ?

        • nevilleross

          THIS. Why can’t these developer regenerate other kinds of hotels instead, like the Valhalla Inn, Constellation Hotel, and Sutton Place? Why do authentic places like the Broadview have to be changed? And what will happen to the people who live there now and cal it home?

          • Dave Ellis

            They aren’t going to knock it down, it says in the article they’re going to renovate and fix the place up.

    • vampchick21

      Are you referring to the Palace Arms Hotel? While that is indeed an historic hotel (1892), it’s now a rooming house, and while some of the residents might not be your cup of tea, they still need a roof over their heads. As do the folks being displaced by the purchase of the Broadview hotel and the people who were displaced by the purchase/redevelopment/restoration/destruction of many other places in this city.

      while restoring or redeveloping historic buildings is a good thing in my book, I always have the question of what happens to the displaced people who were living there at a cost they could afford? And why do people not care?

      • Notcleverguy

        That is a great point.

        • vampchick21

          And a depressing one. :( We just plain don’t have enough affordable housing, and in an urban environment there is a distinct need for rooming houses and by the week rentals.

          • Notcleverguy

            Agreed, I think there is a need for more co-op, mixed level housing, and more long term stay shelters should open.
            Sadly those who are against this sort of ideas seem to yell the loudest.

      • Jeremy Wilson

        So it’s better to let one of the few remaining heritage buildings fall apart and eventually get torn down because we wouldn’t want to make a bunch of drug addicts and alcoholics have to find a new place to live?

        • vampchick21

          SMH. Reading comprehension FAIL. Is that what I said? No, it is not. Is that what I implied? No, it is not. So try reading again and get back to me.

          • Jeremy Wilson

            My answer is, why is it anyone’s responsibility to relocate these people other than themselves?

            If I’m renting a place, it’s not the landlord’s job to find me a new place if he decides to do something with the building I’m renting.

          • vampchick21

            Did I say it was anyone’s responsibility? Read my post again and get back to me.

          • Jeremy Wilson

            You question what happens to these people – obviously they find a new place or end up on the street. The reason people don’t care? I can only speak for myself and say that I don’t give a crap about alcoholics and drug addicts.

          • vampchick21

            See? Now was that so bloody hard? Lesson learned, DO NOT put words into my mouth, understood?

            And as to your assertation that these are nothing more than useless alcoholics and drug addicts, congratulations, you’re a generalizing arsehole.

            Now go pester someone else.

          • rich1299

            No one ever chooses to be an alcoholic/drug addict and whether you like or not they are people too. They too are a part of our society, family members, friends and co-workers. The vast majority have ended up addicted because the couldn’t cope with something in their lives in any other way. The vast majority of opiate addicts, I’m sure the numbers are similar for other types of addicts, about 80%-90% (I forget the exact number offhand) suffered some sort of trauma in their lives that lead to their addiction. Things like rape, sexual, physical, or mental/emotional abuse, many addicts are the victims of childhood sexual abuse, or other traumatic experiences of any kind. Every addict uses to cope with a problem of some sort in their lives whether it be a trauma or something else, something missing, something lost.

            There is very little help available for victims of abuse or other traumas in our society especially since there is often great shame associated with being a victim of abuse. They often don’t tell anyone who could possibly help them until they’re already addicted and are struggling to change their lives. Like those who use to cope with mental health problems people who use to cope with the trauma and abuse often have a very difficult time staying sober. It can take many years of trying before they’re able to do so. They deserve a chance at a better life than the misery they’ve lived through already. That means being treated as a fellow human being, food, shelter, and clothing plus harm reduction to help keep them healthier until they’re able to deal effectively with their problems and stay sober.

            Its uncommon for a purely recreational user to develop a moderate to severe addiction problem. Its because there’s nothing recreational or fun about being an addict and as soon as this starts to become apparent as a purely recreational user they’re able to turn things around without a great deal of struggle.

            The next time you see an alcoholic/drug addict remember the vast majority have suffered terribly in ways you can’t imagine to get to that point in their lives. They deserve whatever help our society can offer to stabilize and hopefully rebuild their lives.

          • TheSotSays

            Life must be tough and lonely for you and OgDerp. Everywhere we turn your tomes of trolling wisdom are surrounded by deleted comments.

          • vampchick21

            I’m not the one mods auto delete. Now go away back to your pathetic little hole in the ground and leave me the he’ll alone you worthless piece of craps.

          • TheSotSays

            Ah Chicklet I used to feel special but now I know you say that to everyone.

            You’re a sad piece of work buddy.

          • vampchick21

            Piss. Off. Troll.

          • UsedCarSalesman

            “responsibility”? because we live in a thing called society, and if everyone were so antisocial as to believe no (or negligible) consideration should be given to existing, marginalized tennants the 1%, and I’m not refering the 1% you probably immediately think of, would destroy society … as evidenced by your other comments you likely fit in that 1%

          • Jeremy Wilson

            I used to live near Jilly’s and it has been the cornerstone of blight on that intersection for decades. Getting rid of it will have a profoundly positive effect on the area. But then I see a bunch of mewling about “what happens to the people who live there” and I wonder if anyone has seen what a rotting cesspool it is.

            It’s not a colourful group of working class folks bringing diversity to a sterile neighbourhood, it’s drunks and meth heads shuffling about and shooting up in the back alley, or stumbling out of that shithole at 2am and having fights. If that’s society I want no part of it.

          • Notcleverguy

            Caring for the well being of your fellow citizens is a real bitch aint it?

          • Dave Ellis

            There’s a difference between caring for people, and giving those people unreasonable leeway.

            If someone is trying to right themselves, then I am more than happy to help them out. If someone is just interested in getting high, then that’s their problem.

            In regards to Jilly’s, the place is indeed a blight on the neighbourhood and it was only a matter of time until it was sold. As long as the people are given proper notice, they should have no problems finding another place to live.

          • nevilleross

            But your obvious lack of concern and your (likely) voting in of neoconservative assholes at the municipal, provincial, and federal levels has most likely brought that society about, or keeps it going with no real kind of social change. As was said back in the ’60s, ‘you’re either part of the problem or part of the solution.’

          • Jeremy Wilson

            Actually I vote NDP generally. I believe in the social safety net. But the vast majority of the people who live in that building are parasites who aren’t trying to better themselves out of that lifestyle.

        • UsedCarSalesman

          So save buildings and don’t help people, got ya, either/or

        • nevilleross

          Better hope that bad shit doesn’t happen to you, asshole, or you’ll be one of the people needing to live where those same ‘drug addicts and alcoholics’ live.

      • nevilleross

        And why do people not care?

        Because…

        1) Capitalism

        2) Gentrification

        3) ‘Bed.Made.Lie.’ (referring to how people probably view the residents)

        • vampchick21

          Truth.

  • http://muralform.com Jason

    its not much of a loss for the business it was a dive. hopefully they can incorporate the old structure into their new building.

  • weboyo

    The original owner named it after his daughter. Stay Classy.

  • dsmithhfx

    It’s all back, it’s all at the Bay.

  • Colleen Newell

    When is a condo developer not a condo developer but an agent for “affinity for historic buildings? Jane Jacob will be rolling over in her grave if she knew
    about these guys. Read on…..

    Streetcar developers are among the highest level of bad neighbours. As someone who has lived beside their development process and seen how they ignore the neighborhood and any scrap of being a good neighbor I am very skeptical about their “affinity” for anything but the bottom line. In the upper beach neighborhood they tore down 2 perfectly fine historic buildings that could have provided moderately priced housing for young families with children and put up what looks like a Yorkville glass upscale retail space( with no housing on that site anymore) that is now going to be abandoned by the retailer that it was built for creating a great big white elephant in the Kingston Road Village neighborhood. In the process they exposed myself and my family to mold, heavy metal solvents, unknown substances from the building debris, noise without notice and every thoughtless action that bad developers are know by, including demolishing the historic building during the garbage strike when the building inspectors were nowhere to be found and permits
    were not being issued.. A building inspector I spoke to about Streetcar was retireing because he said the city can no long control the actions that developers like Streetcar are guilty of when everybody’s back is turned. Even to this day they caused a flood in our basement by aiming their downspout hose toward our building without thinking about what would happen to their neighbor. A huge tree fell on their property in the winter ice storm and wrecked our fence and they have yet to take care of any responsibility for getting it off our fence or making repairs. They left the lot behind this property for years without any lawn care until the retailer took responsibility for it and cut the weeds down just last year . They had let this go for 5 years . Have you noticed when people are negligent in little ways they are also negligent in big ways?
    In speaking with the people I know who bought condos at this upper beach location the dissatisfaction with the workmanship of the building and the problems they have had, has been over the top, in the annals of the stories of dissatisfied condos owners.

    They have yet to prove their “affinity” for historic buildings. Stay tuned to the “oh what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive” antics of another self serving developer….Streetcar.

    • torontothegreat

      Whoa, who let the crazy out?

      • Colleen Newell

        Whoa who let the condo developer’s messenger boy out?

        • torontothegreat

          LOLWUT?

          OMG my fence got broken *insert hyperbole here*

        • torontothegreat

          so wait… @TorontoistEditors:disqus calling someone crazy based on their post is worth deleting, calling someone a shill based on nothing but the voices in their own head, isn’t?

          Okay….

  • torontothegreat

    ZOMG FASHION & HISTORIC INFLUENCE ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, ALWAYS!!!!!!

    Is this how you dress?

    • vampchick21

      Now THAT is hipster. :)

      • dsmithhfx

        I thought it was a deflated fruit of the loom costume…

        • vampchick21

          No, it’s hipster in space. Because space is the new, cool coffee joint.