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Duly Quoted: Daniel Dale

Toronto Star reporter Daniel Dale takes on each and every one of the appalling things Rob Ford said about him during that interview with Conrad Black.

“I was generous. I didn’t call the mayor a liar. Perhaps he was somehow misled by an excitable neighbour. Perhaps he somehow thought he saw something he didn’t see. He tried to get me arrested, to destroy my career; I decided to correct him gently, deferentially. Not any more. Not 19 months later. Rob Ford is lying about me, he knows it, and it’s vile.”

—Star reporter Daniel Dale, in his reasoned and detailed refutation of all the deplorable things Rob Ford said about him during a recent interview with Conrad Black. Dale considers and demolishes Ford’s claims and insinuations one by one, and then concludes by indicating he will “continue to cover Ford with…non-grudge-bearing professionalism and courtesy” and consider the question of legal action.

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  • HotDang

    it would probably be unpleasant to find yourself in a long public spat
    with a wealthy and generally unrepentant person with good lawyers and a
    big megaphone.

    Since The Star isn’t backing Dale up legally, it seems like Ford is going to be protected by the chilling effect enjoyed by wealthy people who can afford big legal bills.

  • William Paul

    Dale is enjoying the fame. if not for Fordgate, would Daniel be this well known/read?, would Robyn Doolittle be on CNN? NO! these events are pure gold for journalists. just remember – doesn’t matter what they dsay as long as they are talking about you. Dan could not buy this kind of publicity. – suing? not a chance. F did not come out and say the word, all inference- no damage. Just politics in the big leagues. Grow some thick skin Dan.

    • tyrannosaurus_rek

      So Dale gets a bit of time in the spotlight, no harm done? Literally everyone in the world understood Ford was implying Dale is a pedophile, which is defamation, aka harm.

    • SonuvaScrimbro

      So William, if I were to say something like, “You know, that Rob Ford, he showed up at that school unannounced and started handing out magnets to kids without their parents around, I’m just saying you have to wonder what’s up with a guy like that”… you’re saying that’s fair game? Because I’m guessing someone might take offence to my clear implication about Ford’s motives (he still hasn’t explained what the hell he was doing there, btw).

      Also, the whole “he was taking pictures of my kids” was a lie — or, if that’s too harsh a word for you, an allegation not supported by the evidence the police investigated. So by what right does Ford have to make any comment about what Dale was doing, if we can’t even trust his account of that event?

      As for the fame thing: whatever. Ford had the power to do something about that by, you know, not doing things worthy of shocking news stories. Shooting the messengers doesn’t make him any less of a disgrace.

    • vampchick21

      I’d sue. Damn fast too. Some things should not be allowed to occur without repercussions. This is one of them.

    • bobloblawbloblawblah

      Perhaps when Rob Ford drags your name through the muck you’ll sing a different tune.

    • MrMikeN

      William Paul is probably Mayor Fraud posting in disguise….LMAO

      • inchoate

        Too literate.

    • IB

      So grow a thick skin or he’s enjoying it? Which one is it?

      • William Paul

        oh please – check out the US, check out our own John Crosbie in Parliament saying pour me another tequila Sheila etc. Ford’s an asshole but you all get so worked up with all of this tripe. Grow a thick skin AND enjoy it. This is politics, dirty and nasty. Who cares what Ford says or who he says it too. The idiots will believe him, the others won’t. Geez you guys are all rabid. Robin defamed for 6 months? huh? get a grip. Media is out for the photo-op/sound byte/sell the friggin’ papers at any cost. And what is this about TO being world-class? give it a break man. Were you furious when Mel didnt want to go to Africa cause he thought he would get thrown in a pot and boiled? or Sars on CNN, or calling in the army for snow? Who cared. And who really cares if Ford is lying about Dan? What difference does it make? Dan will get rich off the book deal, so will Robin…Ford will die of a heart attack and life goes on. Thanks to QP we will still be taxed to death for decades because of enegry,Ornge,eHealth,gas etc etc no matter who gets elected Mayor

        • OgtheDim

          John Crosbie?

          How old are you? 60?

          • William Paul

            Hi Og, Is this LRT Og by any chance? The man who knows everything and his way is not only the best, but the only way? hmm, thought so..how is ti going on the LRT front by the way? Oh, right, it’s now subway with a new report out saying Shep and Finch West LRT’s are a waste of dough and not needed. Also it’s fun to watch you get all out of joint on this Ford garbage. He’s gone, he’s declawed. Ford come s off smelling good every time he pulls this crap and guys like you Og are enabling him by keeping in the public eye. Why do you care what Ford implies? Do you know Dale personally? or that Robyn whats-her-name? How do you know they are perfect then? or are you just guessing? anyways wasted too much time on you Og..why dont you vault over to the Munro site and kiss some more butt over there.

          • dsmithhfx

            You talk like a Ford.

        • IB

          I’m not sure that you meant to reply to my comment. That’s the only explanation I can’t think of for your response.

        • Lee Zamparo

          What a simple, deterministic, and frustratingly bleak world you inhabit. I hope never to visit or live there.

    • rich1299

      Rob Ford is most definitely enjoying his scandals, he’s admitted it in a US TV interview.

  • NYCBoy2305

    Ford is a sick bastard who must be stopped.

    • SonuvaScrimbro

      I prefer “festering pustule” myself. Remember that scene with Martin Sheen in “The Dead Zone”, the one where he’s defending himself from an attack? I don’t think at this point there’s anything Ford wouldn’t do to save his own skin or make himself a victim, up to and including that.

  • HotDang

    That’s not what I took away from his article. He writes:

    Two: If I do take legal action, the Star’s got nothing to do with it.

    Which would be a difficult claim to make if they were covering his legal costs.

    • TorontoistEditors

      No, he’s confirmed that they will. (I’d paste the tweet but I keep getting a giant Warren Kinsella avatar with it, for some reason.) His point in the article is that it is up to him to make the decision (and to clarify that it isn’t the Star pursuing any putative anti-Ford agenda).

    • toronnamamma

      He meant that he wasn’t doing it at the behest of the Star. The paper has offered to cover all legal fees.

  • Matt Patterson

    I have to agree with Andrew Coyne’s comment that Ford didn’t actually accuse Dale of being a pedophile (implicitly or explicitly). He said that when he heard from his neighbour that someone was taking pictures of his children, the first thing he thought was that it must be a pedophile. Almost certainly a lie, but probably not defamation.

    On the other hand, Ford explicitly called Chief Bill Blair corrupt, which is much more likely to count as defamation – though I doubt Blair will take any actions in response.

    In the end, Ford continues to demonstrate himself to be a vile scumbag, but will probably escape any actual legal consequences. We’ll have to wait until October when he will most likely face a sweeping electoral defeat. That’s probably the best way to get rid of him anyway.

    • bobloblawbloblawblah

      Ford is a vile scumbag, but whether he implied “pedophile” or not, the man is lying and distorting truth regarding the events around Dale’s visit to the parkland beside Ford’s house. It yet another example of Ford trying to switch the topic around his disgraceful behaviour by attacking someone else. You’re probably right that we’ll have to wait until October…..there doesn’t seem to be any way to get rid of him. I do believe that a sound thrashing and humiliation is far better than if he could be removed from office as he can’t play the martyr/victim if he is rejected by the electorate. All that said, I would be very pleased to see Ford slapped with another lawsuit — he really is a moron who thinks he can just do and say anything he likes without consequence.

    • dsmithhfx

      What he actually said goes considerably beyond that. The Vision TV web site has taken down the video. That’s how seriously they view the matter.

    • tyrannosaurus_rek

      “I read in a book somewhere that Pat Matterson skulked in the bushes and took pictures of kids for his own disgusting use” and “Pat Matterson took pictures of kids because he is a pedophile” are equally defamatory. Under Canadian law defamation includes innuendo, does not require the defendant’s intention to defame, and damages do not need to be proven.

    • toronnamamma

      Ithought what he said was, “”Daniel Dale is in my backyard taking pictures. I have little kids. He’s taking pictures of little kids,” Ford said. “I don’t want to say that word but you start thinking what this guy is all about.” Nothing about a neighbour and definitely an implication that Dale is a pedophile.

  • dsmithhfx

    Carol Off crucified CB on As It Happens tonight.