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Duly Quoted: Warren Kinsella

“The video exists, and it has been seen by many, many Toronto defence lawyers, following Crown disclosure arising out of June’s Dixon Road ‘Project Traveller’ police raids.”

—Kinsella, a Liberal-party operative and political pundit, published a blog post last night claiming inside knowledge of a meeting between Toronto Star investigative reporter Kevin Donovan and James Lockyer, a prominent lawyer known for his work on behalf of people who have been wrongly convicted. At this meeting, according to Kinsella (who cites no sources, credible or otherwise), the two men supposedly discussed the fact that the infamous Rob Ford video—the one almost nobody has seen, but that reportedly appears to show the mayor smoking crack—is now making the rounds among Toronto attorneys. Pretty much the only way this could be true is if police seized the video during June’s Project Traveller gang raids. We already know for a fact that they arrested the guy who was trying to sell the video to media outlets.

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  • andrew97

    Assuming Lockyer told Donovan who told Kinsella, isn’t that an ethical breach for Lockyer? I think it’s very likely that TPS has the video (given how cagy Bill Blair has been about it), but Kinsella’s story smells like bullshit.

    • Whitebox

      Unless Lockyer is Ford’s attorney I don’t think that’s true.

      • Whitebox

        Not that I necessarily believe the story. It’s got the whiff of “this happened to the friend of a friend of mine.” about it.

        • Aidanist

          I’m not sure I believe it, but I’m starting to lean to the believer category. I’ve heard this about the TO attorneys from a few different sources now. I totally discounted it as gossip at first, but now it’s beginning to seem more credible.

        • zombiecarp2

          the main difference being that, even if its still hearsay, it’s hard to ignore statements that are corroborated by a lot of other apparent witnesses…but yeah, it’s all still hearsay

          • Jim

            And if this were a court of law, hearsay would be inadmissible. But we aren’t in a court of law and we can draw our own conclusions.

          • zombiecarp2

            basically my thoughts just expressed differently…I know what I believe but it doesn’t make a difference till that video comes out

          • Whitebox

            In the court of public opinion half-truths and rumour are just as good.

          • jay

            You’re such a lawyer.

  • HotDang

    Every time I load Torontoist these days, I load hoping to see the video posted. It’s seeming like more of a possibility.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    Don’t you hate it when your favourite show takes a break for the summer?

    • dsmithhfx

      It’s like some weird mash-up of Honey Boo-Boo and Breaking Bad.

      • glenn_storey

        funny. i was trying to figure out which game of thrones characters the forfds were, and i couldn’t do it.

        • nomoremicrophones

          Rob Ford is Robert Baratheon, that much is simple enough. I don’t think Doug Ford maps onto any GoT character.

          • KRoberts

            Hot Pie? lol

          • nomoremicrophones

            Hot Pie?!! Doug? Nah, Hot Pie is at heart a good kid who just wants to stay in the kitchen. He has small ambitions.
            Maybe Janos Slynt?

          • Jon H

            The ones from White Harbor clearly. In the book Catelyn describes Lord Manderly as the fattest man she has ever laid her eyes on… had she not met his brother. But they have more class than the Fords, personality-wise they are more like the Frey’s from the Twins.

        • Guest

          I was thinking more the Pakleds from STNG:

          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708768/quotes

        • CaligulaJones

          I think more the Pakleds from STNG:

          http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Pakled

  • CDog

    The way Ford has responded to the news of the video — along with the descriptions from multiple people who have seen it — is proof enough for me that it exists, that Ford at some point during his term was hanging out with drug dealers smoking crack, and that he and his brother are shameless liars.

  • OgtheDim

    If its in Crown disclosure, its going to come out in a trial, eventually.

  • wklis

    A video! A video! My Metropass for a video!

    Or $200,000.

    • https://paul.kishimoto.name/ Paul Kishimoto

      A dozen lawyers could bill you for $200,000 in a few days.

      • tomwest

        A dozen??? Where are you gettign such cheap lawyers??? If one lawyer can’t bill you for $200,000, then they’re cheap.

  • Joe Tory

    If a video does exist, it only proves what an average guy Ford is. We all have crack houses in our neighbourhoods for a reason – it’s not ‘cos we don’t use ‘em!!! ;-)

    • dsmithhfx

      Our mayor has as much right to be plastered out of his mind on the job, if and when he bothers to show up for it, as anyone else. ‘Cause that’s just what “average” folks do. Urp.

    • em_robin

      “it only proves what an average guy Ford is”

      I’m pretty sure the average person does not smoke crack…

      • HotDang

        Rob Ford is more average than usual.

    • CRack N Head

      that comment really makes me want to smoke some crack

    • DGM

      The thing that depresses me is that if and when this video becomes public, there are going to be Ford supporters saying this very thing. “You know, I don’t care if Ford does drugs, because he keeps my taxes low.” Show these same people a video of David Miller smoking indoors, and they’d be calling for his head on a pike.

      • Punned_It

        I’ve already seen that comment. Someone posted that high on crack, with an AK47 around his neck he is still a better mayor. It’s frightening. I wouldn’t mind if he actually was doing a good job, but he’s not.

  • bobloblawbloblawblah

    Even if the video doesn’t surface, Ford hasn’t lost his ability to entertain, topping each outrage with a new one. It will be a while before the Ford Gong Show runs out of steam.

  • glenn_storey

    of course the video exists. i don’t need warren kinsella to tell me that.

  • andrewsmyk

    Sorry, but every time I read about someone knowing of someone who knows
    someone who has seen the video, it makes me think, “My best friend’s
    sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows
    this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors
    last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.”

    • the_lemur

      Funny, because when I started reading this piece, I imagined Kinsella as Ed Rooney, saying ‘Les jeux sont faits. Translation: your ass is mine”. Hoping that it really is Ford who turns around though.

    • dsmithhfx

      Well if you read the front page story in today’s Star, your head might explode.

  • glenn_storey

    oh for fucks sake. it’s a CRACK pipe. you smoke CRACK from a CRACK pipe.

  • shame

    Actually, he didn’t say that he’d never smoked it at all. He said he was not, nor had he ever been, an ADDICT of crack cocaine.

    • the_lemur

      A lot of carefully chosen words, in any case.
      ‘I do not smoke crack cocaine [much? anymore?]‘
      ‘I am not an addict of crack cocaine [I can quit anytime?]‘

  • FlyOnTheWall

    Maybe it’s just me… but it sounds like Kinsella overheard the conversation first hand?

  • Eric S. Smith

    “… Kinsella (who cites no sources, credible or otherwise)…”

    I rate the video’s exisitence a fair bit more likely than the chance that Kinsella actually knows anything about it.

  • Punned_It

    When the first guy from project traveller pleaded guilty and got a minor sentence I immediately thought it was a cover up to keep the video out of the mainstream. I still want to see it released.