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City Still Institutionally Incapable of Working With Food Trucks

The City continues to give Toronto's new wave of food-truck operators a hard time, but it's not about public health.

Food trucks lined up for a Food Truck Eats event, last summer. Photo by {a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlunar/5894977858/"}foodpr0n.com{/a}, from the {a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/torontoist/"}Torontoist Flickr Pool{/a}.

A few weeks ago, a City licensing officer visited a pay-to-park lot near Queen and Church Streets and told Food Cabbie and the Caplansky’s Delimobile—two successful mobile food vendors that had been operating out of the lot on and off during business hours for months—that their presence there was against a City bylaw and that they had to leave by the end of March.

This was much to the dismay of Food Cabbie’s owners, who had grown comfortable serving their burgers and burritos from the spot. Late last week they went public, and even started an online petition to rally support. They’ve been telling curious customers—and even reporters—that they had all the City licenses necessary to serve food from the lot.

Obviously not.

Before we go on, let’s let the bureaucrats off the hook: yes, they write many of the City’s policies, but they take direction from elected officials. If nuance is what we want out of our mobile-food-vending rules, then we need to appeal to city council.

There is some evidence of an appetite for change. In particular, Food Truck Eats, the travelling food-truck festival, has laid plain pent-up demand for more variety among Toronto’s mobile restaurant fleet. Burritos like Food Cabbie’s and smoked-meat sandwiches like Caplansky’s are different from the standard hamburger/hotdog stuff that passes for street cuisine in most of Toronto, and people are intrigued. And yet the City has made no move to reform its licensing practices since the spectacular failure of its own food-cart program, À La Cart, which suffocated participating vendors with red tape.

What’s holding food trucks back at the moment isn’t anything to do with food safety. Food Cabbie and Caplansky’s both have City-issued refreshment-vehicle licenses. To get one of those, a vehicle owner has to submit to strict inspections until Municipal Licensing and Standards is satisfied that his or her operation doesn’t pose an obvious danger to public health.

At issue in the Food Cabbie/Caplansky’s case is something far less worrisome to hungry office workers: location.

Food truck owners who want to stay in particular spots for long periods of time need to apply for a second license on top of their truck license. This second license entitles them to park on a specified part of public right-of-way—a little spot of curb to call their own. But the City is picky about locations, and in 2002 city council instituted a blanket moratorium on new licenses for spots in the downtown core. Food Cabbie and Caplansky’s thought they didn’t need to have these burdensome location permits because they were operating out of a private parking lot, outside the City’s licensing jurisdiction.

They were almost right. The problem, as it turns out, is subsection 269G of the City’s licensing bylaw, which specifically forbids owners of licensed parking lots from letting food vendors operate on their property for more than 10 minutes at a time. Trucks are allowed to operate for extended periods of time on other types of private property, though. According to Olga Kusztelska, supervisor of licensing enforcement for the city, even an unlicensed parking lot (that is, one that isn’t pay-to-park) would be permissible.

And so as far as the City is concerned, the new wave of food trucks is fine as long as they don’t operate in any of the places where their potential customers would want to find them. If anything about Toronto’s mobile-food-vendor policy could stand to change, it’s that.

Update, March 13, 2012, 2:45 PM: Helen Antonopoulous, who runs Food Cabbie with her husband, Spiros Drossos, says Municipal Licensing and Standards initially assured them that their truck license would enable them to do business in the lot. “The only thing they said that we were supposed to worry about was if Zoning comes by,” she said. “They told us just to show them our lease that we have the people who are running the parking lot. [Food Cabbie leases their space in the lot from the lot's owner.] It was completely their oversight. They overlooked the fact that that obscure bylaw existed.”

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  • http://twitter.com/eatingoutTO Eating Out Toronto

    Nice post. Not many people are chatting about the legal issues surrounding our food trucks. Too many Torontonians think that it has to do with health and safety stinginess–and yes, this needs to garner the ear of our elected officials.

  • http://twitter.com/ChrisDartCOTF Chris Dart

    This makes me rage out so hard. I understand they’re just food trucks, but it’s indicative of a bigger problem with this city. It’s like fucking Brazil. (The movie country, not the actual country.) Does anyone else remember the plan to bring mobile produce vendors to disadvantaged neighbourhoods in the inner burbs, based on a plan in Chicago, and it was a virtual impossibility in this town?

    I love how so many people are trying to make a better city, but it blows my mind that the municipal government constantly cuts them off at the knees.

    • http://twitter.com/perfecto Perfecto

      Sorry guys, if a business sells food all day daily within a building or a property (that is, not on the street), isn’t that called a restaurant?

  • http://liyufx.wordpress.com/ Yu

    Another case of mindless bureaucracy suffocating the city. Sometimes it even feels like the corrupted third-world countries are better in this kind of cases. There are mindless rules as well, but either nobody enforces it, or you can at least get by with a small bribe. Here the red-taping just kill this kind of entrepreneurship outright.

  • Harald

    “Before we go on, let’s let the bureaucrats off the hook: yes, they write many of the City’s policies, but they take direction from elected officials.”

    I disagree in this case. It *is* the responsibility of city staff, the bureaucrats, to deal with these niggling little details. It’s what we pay them for. Staff receive general instruction from council, not details like “you can’t run a food truck in a private, for-pay parking lot”.

    • Anonymous

      … except that’s excatly what the by-law says. Not really general instruction – more like specific orders.

  • Mark_mc

    Fuck the city. Fuck the licenses.
    They only serve as a barrier of entry to creative entrepreneurs.
    Let’s have unlicensed food trucks everywhere tomorrow.
    People will vote with their dollars and the unhealthy ones will go out of business.
    It’s called the magic of reputation.
    When was the last time someone died of food poisoning?

    • http://twitter.com/perfecto Perfecto

      Your unlicensed food trucks will make a “killing” in front of primary and middle schools. Let’s find out what “delicacies” your unlicensed, creative entrepreneurs will sell to schoolchildren.

      • Anonymous

        Gee, you’re right. I’m sure that truck food would be way worse than a legitimate, licensed establishment like McDonald’s or 7-Eleven.

        • http://twitter.com/perfecto Perfecto

          Andrew97, think out of the box. Let me help you: beer…, alcohol…, brownies…, cakes laced with items that rhyme with “thugs” …

          • Mark_mc

            Because children don’t already have access to those things…
            We heard the argument about protecting children a million times.
            It’s a moot point because the sale of alcohol and other bad things to children is already prohibited.
            It’s not about children, it’s about control and protecting the interests of influential lobbyists, you know the businesses who pushed for these regulations in the first place, so they can squash the competition.
            It’s about the freedom to be an entrepreneur and try new ideas that current regulation have not foreseen and therefore make them illegal.

          • http://twitter.com/perfecto Perfecto

            Mark, I don’t understand, do you want regulations or not? Isn’t that what today’s food truck vendors are doing, lobbying to change the current regulations? I really don’t understand you.

            Regarding today’s issue, a business selling food all day daily within a private lot or a building is not a new idea. They are not illegal. They are called restaurants.

          • Guest Guy

            Um, Perfecto, I’m a brewer. So you’re saying that food trucks will lace their food with drugs and sell to children. You insane ass. You DO realize that Ontario Place, had the fabulous Forum, but then sold out to Molson’s, a foreign-owned company that sells piss for beer, to children that also pay the company to see shows? They were free as part of access to Ontario Place. Now, you pay a foreign company, and give them license to break the Ontario laws. Look into it, get yourself educated.

            Oh, and your “argument” goes for any restaurant out there. You are paranoid, inexperienced and uneducated. Seems you could get a job as one of these stupid union-run government useless swivel servants.

          • Anonymous

            Worth remembering that the “licensed” Pizza Gigi was selling weed across the street from Central Tech. Not clear how trucks actually make things any worse.

          • Guest Guy

            I guess that demonstrates that we should close down restaurants as well. Because 10,000 grow-ops in Toronto proper, is obviously going through restaurants. LOL.

  • TorontoDan

    As much as I love Toronto street meat, we absolutely need more variety of street food. I would love to be able to get an awesome burrito or pulled pork sandwich on my lunch break, or on my way to a Jays game.

  • TorontoDan

    Also, is it just me or does this seem like a perfect battle for Mayor Ford? It’s what he does best – fighting for the little guy against bureaucracy. This would be a nice little win for him.

    • http://twitter.com/Welshgrrl Vashty Hawkins

      I agree! This is a bona fide, gift-wrapped opportunity for Ford and he’d be a fool not to grab it with both hands.

  • Jpeck

    So, how come those great chip wagons are always parked in front of city hall and the convention centre? How do they get away with it? Saw a parking tax collector accept a case of vitamin water from a demo car last year.

    Probably the local restaurants raise a stink, they pay the taxes and see business going to the trucks.

    • Anonymous

      That last part has never made sense to me. If you aren’t in the mood for a sit-down Italian dinner for $40, you weren’t going to that restaurant anyway so the truck isn’t “competition” in any sense.

      And food truck owners pay taxes and licenses.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Brown/700895109 Kevin Brown

    What is missing in this article is the position of the local councilors? Kristyn Wong-Tam and Pam O’Connell should have been interviewed and ask what are they going to do to stop the eviction? Did they refuse to be interviewed. I have emailed both of them and have received no responses.

    • YK

      I emailed Kristyn as well with no response…

  • http://twitter.com/plowright_s Stacey Plowright

    There’s a few empty lots near Ryerson (buildings burnt down) – great location – wonder if they could host food trucks until they start construction again?

    • Anonymous

      Ryerson hosted a food truck for a week on a trial basis a month or two ago, on the wide sidewalk (I think it was at Gould and Bond).

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Brown/700895109 Kevin Brown

      This is a GREAT idea. The bylaw only applies to licensed parking lots so there is nothing to stop parking food trucks here. They could set up a bunch of picnic tables and we would finally have good food to eat on Yonge street

  • sd

    The location you’re speaking of is the Yonge/Gould lot and we have hosted 2 food truck events (Foodtruckeats) there.

    The chip wagons and trucks at UofT are operating with licenses that they acquired before the moratorium was put in place in 2002.

    The solution is here to (obviously lift the moratorium) but also allow the trucks to establish and maintain partnerships with spaces/lots to create ‘street food pods’, instead of allowing them all to be curbside. Toronto just can’t host too many trucks curbside, but sidewalk and on lots — different story.

    Kristyn is a huge supporter of Food Truck Eats, probably one of our biggest fans. There are a lot of conversations behind the scenes, but sadly the Working group that was put in place to address the street food issue can’t get their gear together.

    Suresh

  • http://twitter.com/perfecto Perfecto

    > And so as far as the City is concerned, the new wave of food trucks is fine as long as they don’t operate in any of the places where their potential customers would want to find them.

    What the hell, Steve? This is bad news reporting and BS.

  • http://twitter.com/perfecto Perfecto

    Sorry guys, if a business sells food all day daily within a building (that is, not on the street), isn’t that called a restaurant, not a Mobile Refreshment Vehicle?

    A Vendor Refreshment Vehicle Licence lets you operate on the street, not inside buildings or lots. Municipal Code is clear on this. Municipal Licensing & Standards might have given Food Cabbie the wrong idea.

    Parking lots are not food courts. Property and lot owners have to apply for the business permit they will actually operate their lot as. Clearly, the lot owner should have read their permit & not leased the parking spot to an but-actually-not-mobile MRV.

    I’m glad for you, you guys have supporters. Keep pushing, I’m sure the bylaws will eventually be amended. Until then you must work within the current ones. :)

    • Guest Guy

      You mean how City employees have to work within the rules? You’re kidding me, right? Biggest BS cash grab of all time. Councillors (if you can call them that), should get together and stamp this out. Change the legislation, as it’s a big opportunity. Obviously nobody knows about this except the people of Toronto and the food trucks that want to be. So all that’s left out are…oh, right, the government. Whiney excuses that’s all. They’ve completely screwed this up in the past, and they will continue to do so.

  • Sally

    The last time I visited a food truck I used a daily deal that I found on http://www.hungrybuy.com

  • Oijdf

    our food truck are implement what i like to call crowd justice similar to whats seen in http://www.canadadailydeal.com