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Ethnic Aisle Asks: In the Matter of Suburbs vs. Downtown, What Is the Role of Race?

Monday night, while City Council was debating budget cuts and also discussing the potential de-amalgamation of Toronto, 40 residents from across the GTA met to discuss the roles of race and ethnicity in our ongoing downtown-versus-the-suburbs debate.

Ethnic Aisle co-founder Navneet Alang kicks off the first meetup.

Over the past year, federal and municipal electoral results have appeared to highlight a clash between downtown and the suburbs, with different parts of the city facing off on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

At the federal level, stories of the Conservatives courting the visible minority vote emerged during the last election, with some asserting that efforts led by Immigration Minister Jason Kenney resulted in Tory seat gains in the 905 belt around Toronto. (The actual effect of Kenney’s strategy may have been much smaller.) Municipally, of course, it’s a divide that many say has split the city since amalgamation. And now we have a provincial election that’s been focusing on the family and is beset by controversy over “foreign workers.”

I’m one of the writers at a blog called Ethnic Aisle; in response to all the above, we wanted to examine how, when discussing the differences between downtowners and suburbanites, the issues of race and ethnicity figure in.

We held our first meetup on Monday, with over 40 people filling the main room on the first floor of the 519 Church Street Community Centre. The turnout blew us away: clearly, we weren’t the only ones who felt there was much to say.

Attendees were split into five groups and each given a specific issue to frame their conversation: transit and transportation, culture, economics, and the Canadian ideal. The room echoed with conversation and the hour provided didn’t seem enough. Some groups had pages of notes to share when we gathered again, and while we didn’t expect any big solutions, we couldn’t help but feel that there was something to learn from just posing the questions.

In groups, attendees discussed the roles of race and ethnicity in the downtown/suburb divide.

One common experience: people move to—or don’t move away from—areas for a wide variety of reasons, such as cost, safety, and, most relevant for our purposes, proximity to community. Someone may not leave a neighbourhood because their place of worship is there, the grocery stores selling the ingredients they cook with is around the corner, or their friends are nearby. And once people form attachments to certain neighbourhoods, they are hard to break. My parents, for example, lived downtown but then moved to Scarborough for more space—but I still remember as a child heading to Chinatown to the Golden Harvest theatre (now the Toronto Underground Cinema) to watch films from Hong Kong. At some point, Scarborough built up enough of a Chinese population that we didn’t need to head downtown any longer; everything was available nearby. Similarly, after the birth of my younger brother, we again moved, this time to Markham, and we consistently visited Scarborough until the influx of immigrants from Hong Kong in the ’90s to Markham and Richmond Hill built up the area with Chinese restaurants, supermarkets, and churches.

We also wondered about the use of language in discussing the divide—language which often implies that living in the suburbs is lesser than being downtown. About a quarter of the attendees were former suburbanites now living downtown, and many shared the feeling that they had to defend the suburbs from stereotypes—conformity, sterility, and dullness—or act as translators between suburbanites and those who’d only ever lived downtown.

What is often missing from the conversation—though Toronto Standard (and former Torontoist) writer Navneet Alang touches on it here—is that the common perception that suburbanites are most typically Caucasian. Rare is the article that, for example, examines the similarities and differences between the Indian residents in Brampton and those in Little India. Some in our group on Monday, wondered whether the Toronto media, all located downtown, were even interested in suburban culture. When critics of the suburbs (media or not) decry the lack of culture, attendees wondered if that reflected an anglocentric perspective, one which focuses on symphonies and plays but neglects, say, Markham’s bustling Hong Kong-style cafes or ubiquitous DVD shops that not only sell pirated versions of Hollywood flicks, but also Chinese films and television programs.

Over 40 people attended the first Ethnic Aisle meetup.

One theory of how Rob Ford swept into City Hall is based on a suburban sense of disenfranchisement (although as mayor Ford has done less by way of giving the ‘burbs a voice and expended far more energy dismantling downtown). In threatening to close libraries, the Ford administration catered to a rich suburban audience that could afford the space to store books, but did not foresee the outrage from newcomers, many from visible minorities, who had settled in the suburbs and used libraries as a community hub and connector to their new home country.

As the night closed, the feeling in the room was that there was not only plenty to do, but still much to say. Ethnic Aisle is our attempt to introduce more discussion about race and ethnicity to Toronto—all of Toronto. Not surprisingly, some white attendees felt uncomfortable talking about races and ethnicities they did not belong to, but this just speaks to the need for more face-to-face meetings to create the comfort needed to speak openly, and without fear of being misunderstood. Be sure there is still much to say, especially when religion and the association of traditional family values to immigrants weren’t discussed much.

While plans are in the air for another edition of this meetup—we barely had a chance to touch on the role of religion in ethnic communities, and the popular association of “family values” with immigrants—the idea of holding future events beyond the downtown core is tantalizing. How would the conversation change in Malvern or in Weston? And how many people from the core would make the commute to hear it?

All photos by Simon Yau/Ethnic Aisle.

Comments

  • http://twitter.com/balkissoon Denise Balkissoon

    Here are some of the ideas I find myself still mulling over:

    Income – That “immigrant” or “person of colour” doesn’t always mean poor. That the cookie-cutter houses of the suburbs might help integrate streets or neighbourhoods by class, because as long as the garden is neat, no one knows if two or 12 people are living in a house. And I’m really interested in the idea that local media need to pay attention to the income divides within ethnicities: Don Mills Persians vs. 905 Persians, for example.

    Culture – That leaving the ‘burbs often means losing an opportunity to immerse ourselves in our own cultures. The lack of discussion of white cultures – white people have ethnicities, too.

    • Anonymous

      Re: the last thing. As someone who was raised in the Jewish community (i.e. white but with a distinct ethnicity) that one’s especially tricky and interesting for me. Too much to put in a comment, but would love to talk about it properly sometime.

    • Anonymous

      It’s good that people brought up that white people have ethnicities, since it is obviously true. Roncesvalles, the Danforth, the Annex and St. Clair West all have specific ethnic groups associated with them that happen to be European. Ethnicity can be defined temporally and contextually as well as geographically. (I.e. when the dominant group was angle-saxon and those groups were newcomers, then they were considered more ethnic. But with changes in time and new groups of immigrants arriving, they seem less ethnic.)

  • Anonymous

    What this article seems to be saying to me is that an imigrant’s race is unimportant – what has the biggest effect on their lifestyle is their nationality and English language skills.

    • Therese

      It is a HUGE plus if you can have a good working knowledge of French too. Looking at stable jobs – try Francais classes. I regret not doing so.

  • Anonymous

    An invaluable exercise. I’d definitely attend more.

  • Anonymous

    Nice piece, although I would point out that not “all” media are located in downtown TO. Global TV is in Don Mills, as are the National Post and Metro; CFTO (CTV) is in Scarborough; and most suburban areas have local print outlets of their own.

    But the bigger point was the question of whether downtown media are interested in the suburbs. They sure are, but probably less than they should be. The reasons why you don’t hear more about the suburbs are complicated but a lot of it has to do with suburban institutions and groups — from small businesses to arts organizations to fire departments and mayor’s offices — being, in comparison with similar entities based downtown, far less connected to media people and less professional about reaching out to us (e.g. through public relations people). Nor do they communicate with us as professionally when we come looking. I say this as a former editor at a major news outlet.

    These are big generalizations but I don’t think many journalists would disagree with me.

    In other words, the problem goes both ways, but suburban dwellers have to understand that their local institutions simply don’t promote themselves with the same zest and skill as downtown ones. Getting the media’s attention takes effort.

    • Margaret Jean

      TVO is up at Eglinton and Yonge as well.

  • Peter Schjeldahl

    I don’t know if you are familiar with the Kettering Foundation, but you might want to look into their stuff about framing issues and deliberating. It seems like you were close to doing this, but maybe you can get more tools to help?

    http://www.kettering.org/foundation_programs/multinational_research/Deliberative_Democracy_Workshops

  • Anonymous

    I wish I’d been there. I would definitely try to attend another Ethnic Aisle-hosted meetup, wherever it was held.

  • Anonymous

    I wish I’d been there. I would definitely try to attend another Ethnic Aisle-hosted meetup, wherever it was held.

  • Erin Mills

    I find, by and large, that the people you meet and the way they behave is a reflection of one’s own attitudes. That being said, beware in the suburbs of elderly residents driving under the influence of medications. Transit is not good enough in the suburbs and walking between bus stops to connect to routes is possible for me but not for an old or handicapped person especially in winter. So – they drive. I spent half my time in Ontario in the downtown core and now half the time in the suburbs. The difference is transit and the ability of people rather than large metal juggernauts to move easily and readily about.
    I miss everything about downtown except the dirt. The sidewalks are filthy and dirty because there are more litterbugs per square meter than in the burbs. In the burbs the litterbugs all seem to shop at Walmart and No Frills and Timmy’s and throw their garbage out of the car windows.