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What Would Light Rail Be Like?

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Cross-section of an intersection along the proposed Sheppard East LRT line. Image taken from the Sheppard East Environmental Project Report Summary [PDF].


Rob Ford is doing everything in his power to scrap the Transit City Light Rail Plan in favour of subway extensions, which he says “people want.” New councillor Doug Ford (Ward 2, Etobicoke North), part of the brain trust behind Ford’s mayoral campaign, explained the pro-subway rationale in more detail to NOW Magazine:

We want to be a world-class city. I’ve traveled 10 years in North America, to every single city…every day I was on the plane, from [the Deco Labels and Tags] Chicago office, New Jersey or Toronto, I went to these great cities in North America, and to be a world-class city you don’t have streetcars you have subways. And 80 per cent, every poll we took during the election, 80 per cent were saying we want subways.”

There are two claims to examine, in that quote. One, that “world-class” cities don’t have “streetcars” (a term Doug Ford is using, here, apparently, as a synonym for “light rail,” though the latter term usually applies to a speedier breed of transit, with a greater degree of separation from auto traffic), and two, that people in Toronto would prefer subways. That second claim is one we couldn’t begin to tackle, but the first one, at least, is definitely a half-truth. No large city has a light rail setup exactly equivalent to the one proposed for Toronto, but light rail does exist in some fairly major population centres.


Below is some information on the proposed Transit City light rail lines. Even further below, for comparison purposes, are descriptions of some light rail systems already in use in other major cities. And Calgary. (No offense, Calgary.)
Estimated Dates of Completion, as of Last July:

  • Sheppard East LRT: 2014
  • Finch West LRT: 2019
  • Eglinton Crosstown LRT: 2020
  • Scarborough RT Conversion: 2020

Estimated Average Speed:
Twenty-two kilometres per hour above ground, and thirty kilometres per hour in tunnels. The Bloor/Danforth subway line, by comparison, has an average speed of about thirty-two kilometres per hour.
(Average speed is calculated on the basis of the total time it takes vehicles to travel a route, including time spent waiting at platforms and traffic signals. Fewer stops make for a higher average speed.)
Proposed Line Length and Number of Stops:

  • Sheppard East LRT: 15 kilometres, 28 stops.
  • Eglinton Crosstown LRT: 33 kilometres, 41 stops.
  • Finch West LRT: 17 kilometres, 30 stops.
  • Scarborough RT Conversion: 12 kilometres, 10 stops.

Major Features:
Light rail vehicles would for the most part run above ground in separated lanes in the middles of streets (similar to the streetcar lanes on Spadina Avenue and St. Clair). There would be an underground stretch of tracks beneath Eglinton Avenue, between Keele Street and Brentcliffe Road.
Above ground, trains would stop at platforms spaced roughly 400 to 650 metres apart. Underground, there would be stations set about 850 metres apart from one another.
Metrolinx has already contracted with Bombardier to provide light rail vehicles. Based on the company’s “Flexity” line of light rail vehicles, they’d be longer and more spacious than streetcars, and would be capable of being coupled together to form trains of two or three cars.
Now here are some light rail systems in other cities.

London, England: The Docklands Light Railway

First Entered Service:
In 1987.
Speed:
About twenty-three kilometres per hour, on average.
Total System Length and Number of Stops:
About 33 kilometres, 40 stops.
What it has in common with the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
It supplements a pre-existing subway network.
How it differs from the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
Much of the DLR’s track is elevated above street level, and DLR trains are controlled by computer, rather than by human drivers.

San Francisco, California: Muni Metro

First Entered Service:
In 1980.
Speed:
About fifteen kilometres per hour, on average.
Total System Length and Number of Stops:
About 60 kilometres, nine underground stations, numerous surface stops.
What it has in common with the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
Muni Metro operates primarily on surface streets, but also has stretches of track that run underground.
How it differs from the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
Surface light rail stops are closer together in San Francisco than they would be in Toronto (about 175 to 270 metres, rather than Transit City’s proposed 400 to 650). Also, Muni Metro light rail vehicles sometimes operate in mixed traffic (i.e. in the street, with cars), which Transit City vehicles wouldn’t.

Los Angeles, California: Metro Blue, Green, and Gold Lines

First Entered Service:
The Blue line in 1990. The Green and Gold lines in 1995 and 2003, respectively.
Speed:
About thirty-five kilometres per hour, on average.
Total System Length and Number of Stops:
About ninety-nine kilometres, 57 stops.
What it has in common with the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
The three light rail lines serve a wide area, and integrate with subways. Metro light rail vehicles run, for the most part, at street level.
How it differs from the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
LA’s light rail lines generally have a greater degree of separation from auto traffic than Transit City light rail lines would. A spokesman for Metro said that “maybe half” of the system’s track runs down the centres of streets and through residential neighbourhoods in exclusive lanes, like most of Transit City’s track would. The rest of Metro’s light rail track is completely apart from streets, except at intersections.

Calgary, Alberta: C-Train

First Entered Service:
In 1981.
Speed:
About thirty kilometres per hour, on average.
Total System Length and Number of Stops:
44.9 kilometres, 26 stations, 11 downtown loading platforms.
What it has in common with the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
Well, it’s located in a Canadian city, for one thing.
How it differs from the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
C-Train tracks have a greater degree of separation from streets than Transit City light rail lines would. Except for a small stretch of road downtown, they don’t run on streets at all, according to a C-Train spokesman. (C-Train tracks do intersect with roads in plenty of places, though, and its vehicles yield to other forms of traffic when necessary.) Windmill generators offset C-Train’s entire electricity draw, making the whole system effectively wind powered.

Comments

  • http://undefined Andrew

    The key objection of Ford’s people is that Transit City takes away road space from cars. Yet what’s interesting is that three of the four examples you mention have much greater separation from auto traffic than Transit City. Two of your examples are, for practical purposes, completely separate: the DLR is in its own right-of-way, and the C-train has only a short segment on the streets (further, the C-train usually has gate arms to stop traffic when it crosses streets).
    So it strikes me that these examples buy into Ford’s objection — most other cities, when they implement LRT, do so in a way that takes away less space from cars.

  • http://undefined rek

    There’s no doubt the people of Toronto want subways, but how many think Sheppard East should be first in line?

  • http://undefined rek

    It takes away space from cars, but not people. Motorists don’t have a greater right to getting around the city than anyone else.

  • http://undefined xtremesniper

    Subways are great. I don’t think anyone would actually take LRT over subway if they had a realistic choice. But given what we have learned over the past 50 years, I think I’d rather have something that has a chance for completion in my lifetime over mystical subway lines that will forever haunt political history files for decades.
    Ford is only pushing so hard for subways because he knows that there won’t be ANY ground-breaking on any subway project while he’s still in office. He’ll do what he actually wants (to kill Transit City) and the actual task of starting real subway development will be left for the next mayor or the one after that.
    Toronto needs expanded and improved transit. Doesn’t matter how or in what form, so long as we can get people moving sooner rather than later. The whole excuse of “do it right the first time” is just hurting everything even more because it’s a simple fact that the TTC wastes a huge chunk of their budget on union wages and so our government does not take public transit seriously because they just view it as a cash cow.
    I’ll take what I can get. Maybe I’ll be able to take transit to work by the time I retire. Maybe.

  • http://undefined Andrew

    I agree with you, but if I were going to make the case that other cities were choosing LRT, I wouldn’t pick examples that buy into one of my opponent’s key objections.
    I would probably pick Budapest as a system similar to Transit City.

  • Stells Bells

    I’m staggered by Doug’s claim that he has been to “every single city in North America”. Surely that claim alone proves that he is full of sh!t and one need go no further.

  • http://undefined rich1299

    Transit City lines would not take away any lanes for cars, none at all, two car lanes in each direction before an LRT line and two car lanes afterwards, plus there won’t be dozens of buses constantly stopping in those car lanes so car traffic will flow much more smoothly on routes with an LRT on them. In fact the reason the section on Eglinton is being buried is because they would have had to reduce car lanes if they didn’t so the myth that LRTs take away from cars is just that, a myth.

  • http://undefined Danny

    I’m currently residing in Dublin and I have to vouch for the speed, ease and convenience of the light rail system here called the LUAS. It serves all of downtown and connects some of the outlying villages to the city centre proper. It’s super popular and it looks similar to the proposed system for Toronto.
    http://www.luas.ie/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ylUWPgdXI
    Whether or not subways are the best option seems to me besides the point at this stage in the game considering we have already invested in the LRT. This doesn’t preclude subways – they can always be built in other areas in the future. At this point however, who’s to say we have to do what other cities do? Isn’t the mark of a true “world-class” city to do something original and unique?

  • http://undefined EricSmith

    People clearly love subways, but given the choice between building LRT to serve their neighbourhoods and building a subway station on the other side of the city, we know very well that they’d pick the LRT. The Fords are deeply dishonest in implying otherwise.

    It’s be nice if discussion of this topic were to become the least bit realistic, instead of being about “stupid streetcars slowing down my streets and killing small business with endless construction” versus, implicitly, “my very own subway station that will appear from the ground by magic.”

  • http://undefined rich1299

    None of the proposed LRT routes, with the possible exception of Eglinton, will ever be dense enough to justify a subway on them in the next 100 years or so and even Eglinton won’t be able to justify having a subway for the forseeable future. The needed ridership for subways will never be achieved by buses, both Yonge and the B-D lines had busy streetcar lines to build up ridership on them before the subways came unlike the money losing Sheppard line.
    LRTs are what make sense for Toronto, and as Danny Brown has pointed out before me, true world class cities are unique and don’t just copy other cities. There is still need for new subways in Toronto, particularly the DRL, but the routes proposed for LRTs simply can’t support subway lines and if they are built regardless they will massively increase the TTC’s operating costs without bringing in the needed revenue so either more tax money will be needed, huge fare increases, or massive service cuts to support un-needed subway lines. Much better to have the best transit option for the density and ridership of an area, and that means a combination of buses, streetcars, LRTs and subways are needed to meet the needs of transit riders in Toronto.

  • http://undefined EricSmith

    The Downtown Relief Line would be of great benefit to the majority of subway users, and I can imagine that some people might be willing to forgo light rail close to home in return for an improved subway system.

    Of course, Ford isn’t proposing that, because he’s never even heard of the DRL, and his subway boosterism is mostly a stalking-horse for his anti-transit attitude: his motivation, looking at the map, could just as easily be to keep icky transit as far away from Etobicoke as possible.

  • http://undefined xtremesniper

    Also, extending an existing line from a mall to another mall is not a “transit plan”.
    When are we going to have people actually pay attention to the genius work that people are doing for the TTC essentially for FREE when they build completely feasible “dream” transit maps?

  • little_potato

    Does anyone have official “average speeds” for buses? I tried to do some calculations using google maps, and I’m getting figures like 19–20 km/h, which makes LRT’s 22 look really bad.

  • http://undefined John

    Phoenix, AZ has an LRT that seems more in keeping with what’s proposed for Transit City than most of the examples you’ve shown.
    NACTO has a good video about it up on YouTube.

  • Nick

    I think Doug’s polling question would have to be examined. For instance, you can ask the question “Does Toronto need more subways and fewer streetcars?” (obviously, yes) or “Does Toronto need 7.5 km of subway serving a small percentage of its population or 75 km of right-of-way separated LRT that serves 80% if its population and frees up space for cars on the road and that’s already funded by the province” (obviously, yes!!).
    I wish Toronto had votable propositions like US states do, which allocate specific funds for specific purposes, and which can’t be overturned by the latest dullard to take office. I don’t think Ford got a mandate to forge ahead with some half-baked subway plan but rather to stop some ill-defined gravy train.

  • http://undefined The Junkyard Triangle

    So many stops on these Transit City routes. They should stop as often as a subway does, no more. I recall TTC’s Brad Ross saying on this site that Transit City would not be a milk run like the St. Clair streetcar line.
    http://torontoist.com/2010/11/rocket_talk_how_come_st_clair_streetcars_stop_so_much.php

  • http://undefined 8TrackMind

    They should save subways for streets that don’t have the width to ever support LRT, such as King or Queen streets through the downtown core. Both streets desperately need a new transit solution, as traffic on both make the streetcar journey an endless slog during rush hour.

  • http://undefined John

    TYT:
    The average stop spacing for the surface sections of the Transit City LRT routes works out to about once every 500m. That’s the same as the stop spacing on the downtown section of the YUS subway.
    For the underground portion of the Eglinton LRT, it’s quite a bit wider.
    i.e. They’re definitely not milk runs. Any wider than they’re proposing and you’re exceeding the distance that people are willing to walk to transit stops.

  • http://undefined iSkyscraper

    Thank you for writing this — you’ve done more to educate Torontonians in this post than the TTC or Miller’s administration did during their entire term in office. There is a wild amount of BS and ignorance circulating amongst Toronto’s politicians, and, yes, citizens and the Fords are abusing it for their own pro-car agenda. I’ll post later on my own suggestions for good case studies for a Toronto with light rail (the four LRT lines that transit the fringes of Paris, feeding passengers into its subways, would be a start) but for now I suggest people do a fair bit of clicking on this page to see what’s out there in the mysterious world beyond the 416:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_rail_in_North_America

  • thelemur

    Exactly. If he does manage to get a subway line, the disruption and inconvenience caused by its construction will be far away from most Torontonians. If he doesn’t succeed, well, at least it wasn’t Transit City, and everyone can still drive everywhere, right?

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    John, the URL in your link seems to be missing. Could you post it again?

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    Direct democracy has its drawbacks; look at these poll results and California’s budget situation, which I’ve heard is partially due to the passage of fiscally unrealistic ballot propositions.
    It’s also not the way to prevent 90° changes in policy direction everytime someone new sits down in the mayor’s chair. One way is to cede power from elected politicians to more stable planning bodies. Although Rob Ford claims the power to cancel Transit City, it’s not clear that he actually has it. But I’ll agree it’s closer that it should be.

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    To “support” various types of transit you need population density, which is only loosely related to the width of the roads/rights-of-way. As rights-of-way get narrower, the question becomes how to move the maximum number of people through that limited space; i.e. people per minute per metre of road width—a different kind of density. In such situations LRT still makes better sense than private vehicles on a space-per-person basis. It’s more appropriate to say “King & Queen don’t have the width to move any significant number of people in individual cars.”
    So it’s not necessarily true that K&Q need a new transit solution. If you reduced car traffic to a more suitable level, the existing streetcars would work much better. There are a number of ways to do that.

  • http://undefined John

    Sorry about that. I always mess up HTML tags.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUM_h_resGI

  • http://undefined Benjamin

    Thing is, downtown Toronto’s geography is slightly denser than northeast Scarborough’s…
    Junkyard is right that one key factor which defines LRT is metro-like stop spacing. Transit City has the most in common with the San Francisco’s Muni – a higher order local service (the stops are closer in SF, but it too is slightly denser than northeast Scarborough) rather than a bona-fide rapid transit service.

  • http://undefined iSeeWhitePeople

    As per the TTC’s report on the Sheppard East LRT, the stop spacing was set by the results obtained from their models. The average speed of the train was only slightly faster when the stop spacing was increased to 800 [m]. The key takeaway was that the advantages of fewer stops would mostly be negated due to the need for longer passenger loading times.

  • http://undefined iSkyscraper

    By the way, I did a little more research on “to be a world-class city you don’t have streetcars”. Turns out that, with two minor exceptions (***), every city that has hosted the Summer Olympics uses some form of streetcars, trams, or LRT. If that isn’t a proxy for the definition of “world-class city”, I don’t know what is.
    *** – Seoul does not currently have LRT but has one of the world’s largest subway systems, something Toronto will obviously not get anytime soon. And they are building a couple LRT lines anyway. Montreal has no LRT but they have the bad luck of also being in funding-starved Canada so that barely counts. Plus, their 2007 Transportation Plan calls for adding an LRT line.