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2010 Villain: The Suburbs

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Illustration by Kyra Kendall/Torontoist.


Torontoist is ending the year by naming our Heroes and Villains—Toronto’s very best and very worst people, places, and things over the past twelve months. From December 13–17: the Villains! From December 20–24, the Heroes! And, from December 27–30, you can vote for Toronto’s Superhero and Supervillain of the year.


In singling out the suburbs for “Villain” status this year, we realize we’re playing a potentially divisive game. And so let’s be clear about what and whom we aren’t pointing fingers at, here.
Suburbanites. We don’t dislike people who happen to have homes in the suburbs. They have their reasons for living where they live. As downtown hipster bloggers, we can’t possibly imagine what those would be—but we know our own lifestyle choices aren’t for everyone. Besides, if every single person in the GTA wanted to live downtown, the rents on our Queen West apartments would shoot up and we wouldn’t be able to spend so much money on vegan yoga sex parties and fair-trade skinny jeans.
Cars. We believe there’s enough room on Toronto’s streets for everyone. A few more bike lanes would be nice, but it’s not the fault of the average driver that new cycling infrastructure is always so slow in coming. It’s unfortunate that the issue has been framed in terms of a “war on the car,” when what it’s really about is carving out a small but workable buffer zone on the shoulders of roads for our vintage nineteen-seventies fixies, so we don’t ever scratch their paint.
Calls for reduction in municipal spending. We didn’t realize our liberal tax-and-spend proclivities were so badly out of control. Taxes are as inevitable as death, supposedly, so there’s no getting rid of them. But the City could TOTALLY stop spending. It wouldn’t affect us. Our parents pay for everything, anyway, and we don’t need public transit because who ever goes north of Bloor? Nobody we know.
The suburbs were Villainous in 2010 not so much because of any one particular thing IN the suburbs, but because this was the year they all decided to gang up on downtown. Every single suburban ward voted overwhelmingly, in Toronto’s municipal election, for an outcome everyone knew would be contrary to the wishes of most people living anyplace within walking distance of a restaurant with artisanal charcuterie on its menu. And that’s, like, everywhere that matters.
The new municipal regime seems bent on curtailing all the things about Miller’s mayoralty that brought cheer to our dour, cynical, hearts: the environmental initiatives, the light rail plans, and the progressive social programs—all of which spread benefits far beyond the limits of downtown. And yes, there were some decisions that benefited downtown disproportionately, but even the new guy, after a decade on council, seemed hard-pressed to produce specific examples of those. It’s telling that during his campaign he had to rely on the same short list of talking points, again and again.
We live in a democracy, and so it’s inevitable that elections sometimes won’t go our way. But what’s galling in this case is that the reason things shook out the way they did had only partly to do with the issues. This isn’t to say that the suburbs were wrong to vote the way they did, or that they didn’t have plenty of reasons for doing so—and, to be fair, their candidate of choice did have some support downtown. But there was a punitive impulse at work, underlying the whole election, like the rumbling bass line to an angry power ballad. The suburbs supported an outcome they knew we’d find worrying and severe, and the deciding factor in their doing so was that they felt we were too powerful—in other words, overprivileged.
To listen to the rhetoric, you’d think our councillors had been rolling up suburban tax dollars and using them to snort ketamine off sole-sourced City-owned bar rails during all-night fuck-the-taxpayer raves.
But contrary to popular belief, David Miller was not Caligula.
Downtown did well under his rule for the most part, and many of his key policies were designed to address problems throughout the city. Now, the next four years are a giant question mark, at best. And the consequences of that, whatever they may be, will reach far beyond the centre of Toronto, all the way out to its edges.

Comments

  • W. K. Lis

    There are a lot of people in the city, especially the suburban areas, who believe the fuel gauge for oil is not yet in the red zone. What happens when it does?
    http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20080719/Fuel-Gauge-811987.jpg

  • http://undefined Andrew

    Glad to know it’s not just me using analogs to ancient Rome and its leaders to describe the situation. Here’s to hoping for a Cincinnatus in our future.

  • http://undefined the_yellow_dart

    I think you need to qualify your ‘suburbanites’ statement a bit… I live in the inner suburbs, and I’d have sooner taken a kick to the nuts than vote for Ford.

  • http://undefined Nicholas

    Wow, way to link-bait. This thoughtful article belongs along side Kelly Parland and the rest of the National Post full commentators.
    To listen to your rhetoric you’d think that Ford was right. How exactly does throwing crap at the suburbs help anything?

  • http://undefined Dry Brain

    What bullshit. How about blaming cynical divide-and-conquer politics, not the majority of Torontonians?

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    what a load of bullshit. Downtown DID do very well under David Miller, whilst ignoring the rest of the city. I for one, live in the suburbs, but did not vote for Rob Ford. I live within walking distance to resto’s.
    Have any of you Torontoist writers actually ever VISITED portions of the suburbs that are high density? I get the impression, you haven’t at all.
    Overpriveledged? Yes, you are. It’s okay to admit it, too. The suburbs that I live in pay a dispraportional amount of more taxes then the OCAD filled streets of Queen West West. Yet, the downtown gets better services, such as transit.
    Why on earth you would decide to make the “suburbs” (and suburbanites) the villain? As opposed to “those that voted for Rob Ford”? Really shows the insecurity of the downtown crowd when politics doesn’t go their way. You can have your ball… Run home with it and play with yourself. We’ll still happily subsidize your transit system, city services, etc, without complaint. And we still love you.
    P.S. The rhetoric in this article is funny. Don’t paint suburbanites with the Rob Ford paintbrush. I support bike lanes, transit city etc etc, so do all of my friends who live anywhere north of Bloor. So really… STFU about that crap.

  • http://undefined dzastins

    x2 what the Yellow Dart said.
    This “us vs. them” politics thing is getting old. I live in the inner burbs. I ride a fixed gear bike, I leave my car at home. I also don’t like massive tax increases during a recession, garbage strikes, or having to pay for a permit to cut down one of the 12 trees in my backyard. And no, I did not vote for fattie.
    The real villan here is John Tory, who deprived this city of an electable, pragmatic, middle ground candidate.

  • http://undefined Dry Brain

    Well, to be fair, downtown property taxes are higher than in the ‘burbs, so suburbanites aren’t really subsidizing anything. In fact, high downtown property taxes could be seen as subsidizing the greater infrastructure investment required for low-density development. So I could argue the opposite.
    But that’s playing Ford’s game. It doesn’t matter who pays how much in taxes. We’re all Torontonians, and downtown-dwellers need to knock off the condescension.
    Signed,
    A die-hard downtowner.

  • http://undefined e.c

    This is golden.

  • http://undefined Paolo

    I live in the mid-city, and I felt less ignored when David Miller was mayor. But then again we do have a great MP.
    And Miller is Caligula. He built a lot of things and proposed to do more. And I would do him. You’re welcome.

  • http://undefined jurgvonschmurg

    Matches up pretty well with the vote:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/a-city-of-extremes-losing-the-middle-ground/article1838263/?from=1838176
    I wonder why that poor immigrant family in northeast Scarborough doesn’t want bike lanes for their 30km commute to downtown? Or why on earth they would want a subway that would shave 10 minutes* off their hour plus commute, and not screw up streets, which are pretty much the only way to get around out there, practically speaking. Or why they don’t care about transit at all because they live and work above the 401, where a car is pretty much essential to transit?
    I live downtown, love bikes and transit, and detest Ford. I want nothing more than for Scarborough — where I grew up and now work — to have the same things that downtown has: good transit, walkable communities, thriving economic and cultural life. That’s why I now live there. But this suburb bashing has to stop. The fact that this post focuses or charcuteries and fixies is a testament to how little people downtown understand about the people in the suburbs, or care to include them in the discussion. I think Rob Ford is an idiot, but he legitimized the view that light rail and bikes are not really a viable alternative to driving a 1995 minivan 20km home from a low paying job to see one’s family. It’s something that most urbanites and this blog don’t really seem to get.
    *This is based on numbers from the Torontoist post on transit from a few days ago.

  • http://undefined rek

    Because the majority of Torontonians fell for it, hook, line, sinker, rod and reel.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    How so? I live in North York. My house is worth 30% more than the average downtown dwelling. North York also has a regional increase in taxes by 4% as of 2008.
    Low density? lol. Ever been to North York? Sheppard/Yonge?
    “But that’s playing Ford’s game. It doesn’t matter who pays how much in taxes. We’re all Torontonians, and downtown-dwellers need to knock off the condescension.”
    I agree, but the question in this context wasn’t proposed by Ford, but rather The Torontoist.

  • http://undefined rek

    “Yet, the downtown gets better services, such as transit.”
    For a reason. Have you thought about what’s downtown? Multiple universities, high-volume entertainment venues (SkyDome, etc), major shopping centres, convention centres, condo tower after condo tower, the financial district, the tallest office buildings full of corporate headquarters for national and global companies, the main provincial and regional rail station (Union), provincial museums and art galleries, city/provincial/federal government offices, and on and on and on.
    Regardless of where they live, people need to get downtown. They need to get around downtown. And the city needs to facilitate this to keep Toronto attractive to business. Perhaps it’s underpopulated in comparison to the inner suburbs (is it? I don’t know – doesn’t matter), but it’s the busiest part of the city at least 6 days of the week.
    Yes, the inner suburbs need better transit – “nobody goes north of (Bloor, St Clair, whatever)” in part because it takes forever – but it’s disingenuous to act like downtown arbitrarily got the better end of the deal.

  • http://flickr.com/aged_accozzaglia accozzaglia

    Steve, this is a cheap, inaccurate shot.
    If you think this civic schism of the past few years is about the suburbs, then you’re doing it wrong. With this also directed to D and H, don’t make Torontoist look like it’s doing it wrong.
    By the way, I lived in a Toronto suburb called the Annex. Yes, that’s right: the Annex is one of Toronto’s first suburbs, but I’m sure I’ll get flagged for semantics here, even if this is correct. Spare me, us, and everyone else the riposte and go read the link contents two ¶s above featuring useful scholarly references from which we could all benefit. Cheers.

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    “Yet, the downtown gets better services, such as transit.”
    The downtown gets worse transit than the suburbs relative to population densities. A couple of kilometres along Yonge (which BTW is served by a subway) does not overall density make.
    Also this might be a good place to point out that the aforementioned suburbs voted against realistic better transit for the suburbs.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    “For a reason. Have you thought about what’s downtown? Multiple universities, high-volume entertainment venues (SkyDome, etc), major shopping centres, convention centres, condo tower after condo tower, the financial district, the tallest office buildings full of corporate headquarters for national and global companies, the main provincial and regional rail station (Union), provincial museums and art galleries, city/provincial/federal government offices, and on and on and on.”
    Outside of the skydome, and provincial art galleries. The “burbs” has almost your entire list too. Financial district barely qualifies as it’s completely dead after 6PM and on the weekends.
    Anyway. It’s not disengenious of me at all. It was/is a bone of contention between residence. As proven by the recent election. It’s disgengenious of you to act like it doesn’t matter.
    P.S. People do not NEED to get downtown regardless of where they live. What a load of bs. 10′s of thousands of people who live in this city do actually work OUTSIDE of downtown, get your head out of your ass.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    24 hour street cars which run every 2 minutes compared to bus service which runs every 30 min. Busses are the ONLY choice outside of the Yonge Line (wow people actually LIVE east/west of Yonge, I know crazy eh?) Seriously, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    24 hr street cars along major routes – comparable to 24 hrs buses, no?
    Again, service relative to population density. We could run buses every 10 minutes on every line (hmm… expanding the list of buses running every 10 minutes was on Transit City Bus Plan, wonder what will happen to that) but on the currently-30-minute routes they would run empty.
    During rush hour, you’re likely to get better service along Finch or Steeles than along Queen.
    As for buses being the only choice, you really can’t blame the downtowners for that.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    I’m not blaming downtowners for ANYTHING at all. I love downtown, my choice to move was for personal reasons and I support a vibrant downtown even at my own financial sacrifice(s) to it.
    How many houses are along Finch and Steeles? Exactly. The high density areas are not along those routes (sans Sheppard to Finch). The routes that service the high density areas are a f’n joke. While the Queen car may seem like crap, it’s actually pretty good and I do miss it. As for 24 hour bus service, it’s not every route (like streetcars are for the most part) it’s only major arterials (you know, where nobody LIVES). And this is why people uptown drive cars. Transit city would have saved us from that, but I guess we get screwed again :(

  • http://undefined the_yellow_dart

    Not all of us go downtown often.
    I work in Ajax (for now, I’m a contractor). If I am returned to my company’s head office, it’s still not “downtown” (Yonge and Eg).
    I go downtown about twice a month.

  • http://undefined rek

    “The “burbs” has almost your entire list too.”
    Scattered all over an area 10 times the size. Downtown is, by definition of being downtown, dense with these things. Density and sprawl require
    “Financial district barely qualifies as it’s completely dead after 6PM and on the weekends.”
    From 7AM to 6PM five days a week those ten city blocks are overflowing with people who come from all over the city – and region beyond – to work. And they aren’t all elites – there are plenty of blue collars depending on those white collars.
    “It’s not disengenious[sic] of me at all. It was/is a bone of contention between residence.”
    Nobody is denying it’s an issue the suburbs has, but downtown hasn’t been getting ‘special treatment’ without cause. (Are you sure you know what disingenuousness is? Your reply suggests otherwise.)
    “P.S. People do not NEED to get downtown regardless of where they live. What a load of bs. 10′s of thousands of people who live in this city do actually work OUTSIDE of downtown, get your head out of your ass.”
    Hundreds of thousands of students, employees, sports fans, club-goers and others prove, day in and day out, you have no idea what you’re talking about. This city is not sustained by the mere “10′s of thousands” who never come downtown.

  • http://undefined rek

    Yonge & Eg (the 4 wards around it) voted for Smitherman, which seems to be the criteria for ‘downtown’ in this context. It also sports downtown-like density of residences and business.

  • http://undefined rek

    Where the hell are you seeing every-2-minutes street cars in Toronto? Really, I’m starting to wonder if you’ve ever been downtown.

  • http://undefined rek

    Just noticed this – “Density and sprawl require”
    That was supposed to be “Density and sprawl require different services.”

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    “As for 24 hour bus service, it’s not every route (like streetcars are for the most part)”
    There are 12 streetcar routes in Toronto. Let’s be generous and say 502, 503, and 508 aren’t ‘real’ routes, leaving nine. Of those, two have 24 hour streetcar service and further two have bus service when the streetcars stop running.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    From previous conversations, I know that you’re not a property owner. From this conversation, it’s easy to deduce that your knowledge of the suburbs is quite lacking (if existent at all). Therefore, I won’t bother humouring your obviously unqualified opinion on this matter any further.

  • Dry Brain

    Then you live in an expensive house. Generally, inner city property values are higher than inner suburban ones. Of course there are big-ass houses in pricey suburban area that don’t follow that trend.
    And Sheppard and Yonge may be dense, but the vast majority of the suburban area is far lower density than the downtown. Are you actually arguing about that?

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    No def, not arguing it, just clarifying it. Some people seem to be under the impression that it’s tumble weed and prairie towns north or Bloor. As far as housing prices. The neighbourhood I live in has one of the highest median income’s in the city. This is reflective in housing prices.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    I would argue that there are more people (total) working outside the downtown core in this city then within it.
    http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?7238-Toronto-Density-Map-2006

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    So, how about those every two minutes streetcars and five Blue Night streetcar routes?

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    there are 3 24 hour routes and several bus routes operate 24/day. Of the 138 regular bus routes on the Blue Night Network the majority appear to service the core.
    AFAIK in my area, there is 1, servicing everything and anything from Yonge/Bloor to Yonge/Finch.
    If you walk onto King Street at rush hour there are plenty of street cars running, all within minutes of each other. I wait approximately 25 minutes during rush hour to catch my bus at Finch Station.

  • http://undefined MER1978

    “I want nothing more than for Scarborough — where I grew up and now work — to have the same things that downtown has: good transit”
    Fully separated LRT that will address the ridership projections is cheaper and faster to build than subway… why blow money we don’t really have in the first place?

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    You do realize the over-the-top fixie charcuterie stuff was sarcasm, right?

  • http://undefined Dry Brain

    C’mon, it’s not the 19th century. One needn’t be a property owner to participate in democracy. Besides, by your logic, non-business owners should be excluded from voicing their opinion on small business issues, and non-renters shouldn’t have anything to say about tenant’s and landlord’s rights.

  • http://undefined Chris Orbz

    Okay, ttg obviously imploded in this argument but frankly I think rek won midway through anyway just by making a point of calling it the SkyDome.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    I never said he shouldn’t/can’t participate. But his opinion on the suburbs is completely unqualified. Or did you miss that part?

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    If you don’t pay taxes (property) you have NO idea how expensive they are and in context of “my tax dollars help subsidize your downtown” it helps if you actually realize how and where those tax dollars go and how much they cost property owners in the first place. So yes, it does matter in terms of having a qualified opinion, it has nothing to do with participating in democracy.

  • http://undefined linnyqat

    Anyone can find out how expensive property taxes are and where the tax dollars go. You don’t have to pay them to figure that out.
    I find this line of argument to be parental, condescending and not really relevant. It’s tiresome to have to trot out that old argument that “renters pay taxes too” because, geez, why doesn’t everybody already get that? Obviously a portion of one’s rent will be allotted to the taxes owed on the property.
    I am a home owner (condo). I’m also a slackass. My taxes are folded into my monthly condo fees. Because of the aforementioned slackass situation, I had to use the city’s handy-dandy property tax calculator to find out what I’m actually paying. And yet, according to the argument put forth above, I am more “qualified” to have an opinion on matters of where tax dollars should or are being spent? This makes no sense to me at all.
    All I require of a qualified opinion is that someone can back up what they’re saying with credible sources and facts. Whether you write a cheque out to the city or to your landlord doesn’t figure in.
    (I actually see this renters vs. owners distinction as another polarizing downtowners vs. suburbanites tactic.)

  • http://undefined rek

    What exactly is my “opinion” of the suburbs?
    That the suburbs are much bigger than downtown? This is a fact, not an opinion.
    That downtown is much denser with people than the suburbs? This is a fact, not an opinion.
    That downtown has a higher concentration of high-capacity/high traffic destinations (including many that have no parallels elsewhere in the city) than the suburbs? This is a fact, not an opinion.
    That the 24/7 presence of large numbers of people downtown requires different transit types and strategies than the suburbs? This is a fact, not an opinion.
    By the way, I spent my first 2.5 years in Toronto living on Finch, first east of Leslie then west of Jane.

  • http://flickr.com/aged_accozzaglia accozzaglia

    To rek, torontothegreat, linnyqat, everyone:
    Put a lid on this and drop it already. You all sound like sandbox brats.
    If you want to understand the suburbs, be an urban studies major and conduct some useful primary research upon which you can secure peer review, then publish and share with your rivals here as the authoritative word on this really overarching topic.
    Otherwise, you’re all really getting useless by bitching back and forth over this.

  • http://undefined linnyqat

    [...dashes off to sign up for post-graduate degree on Master of Everything...]

  • http://flickr.com/aged_accozzaglia accozzaglia

    Cute.
    If you’re all going to act like pedants, then at the very least, start by knowing what you’re talking about. To these ears, all I hear is FOX-like ignorance and obstinancy masquerading as knowledgeable authority on all things urban.

  • http://undefined linnyqat
  • http://flickr.com/aged_accozzaglia accozzaglia

    Nice try. For those with a Mac, definition 2 of “cute” in your built-in dictionary.
    Have a nice day.

  • http://undefined rek

    Are you still here?

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    Or you can have spent a majority of your life in both places. Rek has proven that he has not done this. Therefore, his opinion on suburban matters is completely based on what he reads in the paper or hears Rob Ford speak of. I believe experience counts more than academia in having a qualified opinion.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    I find any argument saying that large groups of people are problematic to be MUCH more “parental, condescending and not really relevant.” to any discussion.

  • http://undefined linnyqat

    Well, I don’t see it as an either/or thing – neither style of argument holds much water for me.

  • http://undefined linnyqat

    Jeez, it isn’t enough for you to lord your fourteen degrees and ten million dollar vocab over the rest of us poor slobs, you have to insult me using 17th century English? Is there any post-secondary arena you haven’t mastered accozzaglia?!
    You are kinda like definition 1 of pedant and I mean that in the definition 3est of cute way possible. Hope you and yours have a happy and safe holiday. Cheers.

  • http://flickr.com/aged_accozzaglia accozzaglia

    I suck at math and fluency in multiple languages.
    Feeling better now?

  • http://undefined linnyqat

    You bet your quadratic formula I do!!!
    y=mx+b,
    lq

  • http://undefined jurgvonschmurg

    If you read the Torontoist article on what LRT would be like (http://torontoist.com/2010/12/what_would_light_rail_look_like.php), light rail would be a full 10 km/h slower than a subway, which is significant. But I agree that if a solution carries enough riders and provides fast enough travel times it doesn’t matter if it is above or below ground. On those grounds, I do think it is ridiculous to replace the Scarborough RT with a subway, as it already has a true dedicated right of way.

  • http://undefined jurgvonschmurg

    I do, in fact. My point was that joking about such trite issues in a post that literally vilifies the suburbs demonstrates how disconnected urbanites and this blog are with suburban issues. It’s in poor taste, in my opinion.

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