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Rob Ford Sends Cease-And-Desist to “Satirical” Blogger

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Rob Ford at May’s interfaith debate. Photo by Christopher Drost/Torontost.


Oliver Ogilvie (an internet pseudonym; he wouldn’t disclose his real name) owns RobFordMayor.com—a self-described “low grade satire” site that mocked the eponymous city councillor and mayoral candidate. This week, Ogilvie received a cease-and-desist order from Ford’s lawyers, which we’ve since obtained ourselves.


“Mr. Ford has been the Councillor representing Ward 2 in North Etobicoke since 2000,” says the letter, “and he is one of the hardest working councillors in Toronto.” It goes on to describe more of Ford’s community engagement record.
“These postings in their entirety are clearly false and defamatory,” says the letter of the content on Ogilvie’s site.
The letter accuses Ogilvie of trademark infringement, and then demands that he immediately remove “all material” from RobFordMayor.com, and that he issue an “unqualified apology” to Ford. Ogilvie did these things (the apology is now posted on the front page of the site), but Google’s cache still has a copy of RobFordMayor.com’s original content. (We also have a backup copy ourselves.)
Ogilvie, who describes himself as a twenty-eight year-old professional from Toronto, says the blog was his way of entertaining himself online, and also a vehicle for taking jabs at Ford, whose public persona he dislikes. “It’s stupid and it’s fun. And it was a joke,” he said. “I’m surprised that it was taken seriously by his team in itself.”
“It’s just something that I find kind of funny,” he said. “I have several blogs of a similar nature,” including IgorKenk.com and MelLastman.com.
This is the first time Ogilvie has ever received any kind of legal threat as a result of his online activities. He complied with the cease-and-desist because he wasn’t willing to chance being taken to court by Ford, he said, “even if it’s a one-percent chance.”
Ogilvie’s entries on RobFordMayor.com were first-person blog posts, written in his idea of Ford’s voice. The posts aim at satire, but generally revolve around jokes about Ford’s weight, or drawn-out masturbation scenarios with Ford as their central figure. (One post describes Ford slathering chocolate on his thighs.) The site was arguably more ridiculous and juvenile than genuinely cutting.
“I really enjoy writing in other people’s voices,” said Ogilvie. “I enjoy going over the top.”
Ford campaign spokesperson Adrienne Batra told Toronto Life that Ford’s campaign is appreciative of Ogilvie’s decision to take down his site, because “some of the hits were pretty personal, and it was getting out of hand.”
A message with Ford’s campaign headquarters was not immediately returned, leaving Ford’s personal reaction to the situation a mystery, for the moment. “All I can think of is a high-pitched yell and a really red face,” said Ogilvie.
Here, now, is the full text of the cease-and-desist letter Rob Ford’s lawyers sent to Ogilvie, by way of Ogilvie’s domain registrar:

Comments

  • David Toronto

    Ford is lucky he has the support of CFRB’s
    talk show hosts. Those who CFRB don’t support
    get the end of rude and disparaging comments.
    This whole matter has the air of “sore loser”
    written on it. Ford has no sense of humor.
    He’s very close to the closed mindedness
    that Stephen Harper has.
    God help us if he ever gets elected mayor.

  • http://undefined EyelineImagery

    Rob Fords reaction aside, you have to admit looking at the three sites, it’s a little strange that Ogilvie seemingly puts so much effort in to building web sites that let him pretend to be other people, at least I think it’s it’s weird.

  • http://undefined The Junkyard Triangle

    Rob Ford does not like being called a fat fuck.

  • http://undefined Andrew

    Rookie mistake. Had this person chose “NotRobFord.com” they would have been free and clear.
    Still, it’s a great read… Thanks for saving it :->

  • http://undefined davedave

    O.O.’s horribly unfunny writing + no balls to put his real name on it = amazing turd that needs flushing asap.

  • http://thumbshift.wordpress.com Jo

    Looks like this O.O. guy is just another parasitic domain namesquatter on the Internet…Trying to pretend to be someone that he’s not.
    O.O should try doing something legitimate, rather than riding coatails…What he’s doing is actually an infringement upon real people’s names and identities….You’re a leech O.O. !

  • http://undefined ES

    It was pulled because I let Rob know that an IP originating from someone at the Toronto Star posted that satire blog on Rob’s Wiki page, as an official link. If that’s not dirty politics, I don’t know what is. Whoever at the Star posted it should be ashamed.
    You can still check it out yourself, go to Rob’s wiki page, check “View History” & scroll down to the July 16th edit. The a quick search on the IP 192.206.151.131, shows that it was done from the Toronto Star building. If he didn’t have my vote before, he sure does now.
    http://www.robtex.com/ip/192.206.151.131.html
    Base Record Name IP Reverse Route AS
    - 192.206.151.131
    Canada
    (none) 192.206.148.0/22
    Peer1 Route Object
    AS10400
    THETORONTOSTAR Toronto Star Newspapers Ltd

  • eller

    Thank you oh thank you Internet White Knight.

  • http://undefined ES

    I guess you’re fine with the someone from a so-called upstanding newspaper waging dirty politics on a candidate by anonymously posting obvious satire/slander sites his wiki page…I’m not..

  • http://undefined ES

    I’m just trying to set the record straight on why the action was taken instead of leaving it up to twitter and random blogs to spin the story to look like he’s trying to silence free speech…. I’d do the same for any of the candidates running… Someone even tried to repost it the day after it was taken down from his wiki, so that in itself proves that it was being used in a slanderous way.

  • http://bit.ly/jgk9h7 dandmb50

    What did I hear many years ago when the internets started, that anything you post on the web is there forever, and it’s true. You just need to do a search through the google search site or “way back machine” (but WBM does not archive it until after six months)
    So remember, once you post something, it will always be there for all to see.
    I think Ford is over reacting because now it’s an issue and I will look for it but if he never did this I would never have known. But I still like him, but let’s see what happens.
    Daniel .. Toronto
    http://bit.ly/bKGa13

  • http://undefined fantasygoat

    I worry that Rob Ford might actually be the next Mayor. He is a stooge.

  • http://undefined theFace

    Interesting that you say it was unknown until the cease and desist order was issued, it was the number one google result when searching for rob ford, for a couple weeks. It also, from what I’ve heard, received over 500 new hits/day. You’re in the minority when you say you found the site to be humourless, plenty of people found the site hilarious, sure it was low-brow humour, but Rob Ford is a low-brow kinda guy. He’s wierdo, incompetent and deserves w/e bs is thrown his way. Anyone but Ford.

  • http://undefined theFace

    ES, you are a rat.

  • http://undefined theFace

    ES is a coward and a fool.

  • http://undefined ES

    Call me what you want, but at least I’m doing something… It isn’t about the site, it’s about the fact that someone from the Toronto Star posted that link on Rob’s wiki and I happened to notice it. I was doing research on all of the candidates when i came across it.
    If you think it’s acceptable for the press to post stuff like that, then you are the obviously the real coward. I’m just a concerned citizen, which is more than i can say about you.
    If you want to discuss politics with me, I’d be honoured to have a civil discussion, instead of trying to label me with childish ad-hominems. I’ll even buy you a beer to sit down & talk. We may not agree, but at least we can hear each other’s side.
    All i’m doing is trying to set a record straight & get the true story behind this out, meanwhile you hide behind the anonymity of a screenname and lash out & call people names. Who’s the fool?

  • http://undefined theFace

    It’s not slander, there was a disclaimer clearly visible on each page. There’s no trademark infringement since robfordformayor.com is not trademarked. I tend to avoid conversations with total morons, you’re a ford supporter, clearly there’s soemthing wrong with you. Especially if you base your decision to support him on a cease and desist order, instead of his lack fo a platform. Also, your explanation is bs, Dudley Do Wrong.

  • http://undefined ES

    That’s pretty scary.. you think that the new outlets should have the right to post fake articles to misrepresent & slander people you don’t agree with.
    That’s a fascist’s train of thought. I’m not even going to bother with the Godwin angle.
    Haven’t you ever heard of “give them enough rope to hang themselves with”? If Rob Ford, or any of the people running, say or do dumb things, then I agree that it should be reported. But leave the lies to the pros, like Fox News.
    I think most people would rather make up their own mind about the politician’s platforms & ideas then be mislead by a major newspaper posting fake information. Report the truth & let people decide themselves.

  • http://undefined theFace

    Also, ES is not exactly putting your name out there. Those who live in glass houses….
    What is it that you accomplished? You helped out a candidate that will, if he becomes mayor, destroy Toronto and the GTA. Good for you bud, thanks from Toronto, we’re all so happy that you lack forethought. How logn have you worked with the Ford campaign?

  • http://undefined Porcine

    Choke chubby! The guy in the chicken suit should hold up a big CHOKE CHUBBY sign at events! Sad it’s down, was just reading this the other day. Some of the comments where very interesting. Of course it will be mirrored.
    Also:
    “I’m sitting in my west end home right now, preparing for a great long weekend. The weather is supposed to be great. I’m going to stay away from the core of the city (Carabana weekend), but I already have all that I need at my house. I don’t think I’ll need to leave for supplies or anything.
    I have :
    - Over 100 cans of Old Mill beer
    - Steaks, sausages, bacon, hamburgers
    - Lots of toilet paper”
    That’s exactly as I picture him…

  • http://undefined Porcine

    “This website is intended purely for entertainment purposes only. All of the material on this site is intended for purposes of SATIRE, PARODY, and HUMOR. None of the views expressed on this page should be confused with the actual views of Rob Ford. Everything on this page is intended to spoof, parody, satirize, roast, lampoon, and otherwise poke fun at Rob Ford as a mayoral candidate and other material published and spoken by Rob Ford. We make no claims as to the accuracy of our satire. We also do not make any claims that all of the satire, parody, or humor writing on this page is exclusively poking fun specifically at Rob Ford.”
    I think the guy should have told the lawyers to stuff it. Free speech. Robbie can whine to the HRC if he feels offended. It’s not libel nor slander.

  • http://undefined ES

    So to set the record straight.. theFace thinks it’s totally acceptable for the Toronto Star to post whatever they want to a candidate’s wiki page, lies be damned.
    Again, this wasn’t about the site itself, It’s the fact that it was being used as a tool by the media to mislead the public by being posted as an official link on his wiki…satire & disclaimers or not. And then when it was removed, someone tried to repost it.
    You seem to be pretty concerned about the site, including knowing the # of hits it received. What is your connection to it?
    I haven’t made up my mind who I’m voting for, but go ahead & label me a Ford Supporter if you want. You seem to think it’s a derogatory term to me. All I’ve seen is people sinking lower & lower to pull anything out and hurt his chances.
    What would you be saying if it was one of the other candidates I had noticed this being done to? Or is it just people with opinions you don’t like that you lash out at and want stereotyped?

  • http://undefined Porcine

    He’s not a rat, he’s a CHOKE CHUBBY. Get it straight!

  • http://undefined Porcine

    Here’s a PSA that anyone living near Rob should watch:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZY5nFzretw

  • http://undefined ES

    Again, call me what you want if it makes you feel better, although, I prefer Whistleblower over Dirty Rat, but i guess it depends on what side you’re on lol.
    I don’t work for the Ford campaign in any respect & have never even met the guy. If you want my real name, I’ll gladly disclose it to you. I even invited you out for a beer to discuss politics. All I did was point out this so-called “mistake” by the Toronto Star. I’m putting myself out there as the person who noticed it, but you’d rather try to insult me than have a reasonable discussion.
    It’s about the fact that the Star posted it, and then tried to repost it…..not the site itself. I thought it was kinda funny too.

  • http://undefined theFace

    It’s not know as sinking lower and lower, it’s called digging deeper. Every time someone opens this guy’s closet a cemetary of skeletons come out, he opened himself up to public scutiny and now he’s cryign like a bitch because he can’t handle it? Boo hoo fat fuck!
    If you didn’t want people to call attention to your questionable character, you a) should nto be of questionable character and b) not run for mayor.
    Every reaction that ahs been had for this guy is a direct result of the person he presents. It’s his fault and i will not feel any sympathy for this despicable piece of trash.

  • http://undefined ES

    That’s pretty immature. You’re calling out Rob for being homophobic and then making gay sex jokes about myself & Rob in the same post.
    BTW, Who do you support, and why?
    And I’m interested to know how you seem to know about the amount of traffic going to the satire site and why you’re so upset it’s no longer up.

  • http://undefined ES

    So report the truth, and let it speak for itself.. Why do you need to rely on satire & lies? You seem pretty concerned about this.
    Never mind Rob Ford…..I’m just trying to point out what happened in this solitary situation in a mature and reasonable manner & right off the bat you resort to swearing, calling names and pulling out everything you can to try and smear me now

  • http://undefined theFace

    I heard it was Ford himself that made that site… He wanted to get out his real feelings.

  • http://undefined theFace

    Hahaha, oh man, this guy thinks he’s Bob flippin Woodward! Yer uncovering the truth, setting the record straight! Wowowowow!
    Yer gonna get to the bottom of this! Haha, and when you do, guess what you win, Rob Ford as mayor and a destitute Toronto, congrats friend!

  • http://undefined theFace

    also ES, you noticed this and sent a message to the Ford campaign, why didn’t the Toronto star get a cease and desist order instead of the blogger?

  • http://undefined ES

    Keep trying to make fun of me, i really don’t care… You still haven’t answered any of my questions either.
    You’d obviously rather insult me than try and convert me.. you deserve who you get for Mayor.

  • http://undefined ES

    Again, how would I know, I don’t work for any campaign. I was just reading up on all of the candidates to educate myself, noticed the link, then sent Rob a note to let him know.. That was last Friday I think. If I’d noticed anything similar posted on any of the other’s wiki pages, I would’ve done the same. I just posted here because I wanted to let people know what had lead up to this.

  • http://undefined ES

    I sent a note to the Star as well, asking about it, but still have not received a response, but I heard back from Rob within the hour.

  • http://undefined ES

    Maybe it is still being investigated… I believe the Star is already being sued for some other debunked stories from anonymous sources they posted about Rob, so they obviously wouldn’t want to let people know that 1 of their employees was doing this as well…
    What if it was someone YOU liked who this was happening to? I’m sure you’d be changing your position pretty fast on what’s right & wrong.
    I think it’s wrong for media employees to alter ANY candidate’s wiki page… I guess that’s where we differ.

  • http://undefined theFace

    They didn’t alter the wiki page, they reposted it somewhere else, complete with disclaimer. The page has also been reposted here at the Torontoist, on Toronto Life, BlogTO and google has a cache of it. Better send your No Bullshit buddy another letter.
    Whatever your aim was in this, Ford’s campaign handled it very poorly. His cease and desist letter (not court appointed order) shows that he took personal offence and can’t take a joke. It shows that he can’t hack being mayor and it shows a lack of respect for our Freedom of speech. His reaction to this, his ignorant comments about AIDS and gay people, and his comments on the G20 show a lack of respect for the taxpayer, the same people he purports to be a champion for. He’s a liar and a blowhard and I have no sympathy for him.
    This question was already asked an answered; it wouldn’t happen to anyone i like, because i don’t back fools.

  • http://undefined ES

    The did alter it.. you can look for yourself.. got to Rob’s Wiki page, check the edit history, look at July 16th and check where the IP came from…Toronto Star. They clearly added the link and called it Rob Ford’s Official blog… anyone can look for themselves… I just happened to be the one who brought it their attention….
    You still haven’t answered why you’re so concerned about it, how you have so much info about the amount of traffic it received and who you support for mayor. All you’ve done is try to insult me, swear, make gay sex jokes and say that it’s ok for the media to play dirty tricks…

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    “If he didn’t have my vote before, he sure does now.”
    Because, uh, someone at a newspaper that employs probably hundreds of people, an intern or a proofer for all you know, added a link to a publicly editable page? Pretty strange criterion for choice of a mayor of a city of 2.5 million, but to each their own…

  • http://undefined ES

    I’ll also assume that the “Oliverog”, who reposted it to Wiki, the day after it was originally removed, is Oliver Ogilvie, the guy who refuses to reveal his real name.
    It’s all in the View History logs on wiki..
    So we have both the Toronto Star & the creator of the satire site trying to edit Robs Wiki page to make it look like that was an official link to his blog.. Disclaimers on the site or not, it’s still pretty bad. It was obviously done on purpose.
    I’d probably ask him to cease & desist that too.

  • http://undefined rek

    And you know for a fact it wasn’t a honest mistake, some poor intern’s first go at editing Wikipedia; that it was an intentional attempt, ordered by senior editors on behalf of their unseen dark masters, to mislead the voting public?
    If you want to vote for Ford, vote for Ford; you don’t need to make excuses, or to cast your vote out of spite.

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    “So we have both the Toronto Star & the creator of the satire site trying to edit Robs Wiki page”
    Not quite. The moment you’ll have “the Toronto Star” doing it is when they print they are doing it. Or post it on their website. Until then, you have someone who happens to have access to a computer connected to Toronto Star’s network doing it.

  • http://undefined ES

    Well either way it came from their servers. And the Star already has a bad track record with Rob Ford related stories. But until we know exactly who did it, we don’t know the intentions for sure, I’ll concede that….But Oliver knew what he was doing when he reposted it.
    I just came on this site to give the reason why it was pulled, instead of the story floating around on the blogs & twitter.. If you want to attack me for that, go ahead, I just think that these tactics shouldn’t be used on ANY candidate.
    I disagree with Rob on a lot of things, from policing to G20, etc.. i support gay rights & i think there should be more streetcars instead of the subways he wants, but all i’ve seen from the other side are cheap tactics trying to smear him, he’s obviously getting someone scared….
    I simply had the balls to come on to anti-ford forums to attempt to correct the facts on a story and as soon as I do, i’m immeadiatly attacked, sworn at and called a rat. maybe that’s why I’m choosing to support him now, the other side is so untolerant.

  • http://undefined superpeach99

    ES, you have certainly done a good thing by blowing the whistle on the IP source. This issue has zero to do with whether you support Rob or not. The real issue is the integrity of our news organizations. Underhanded potshots have no business in a respectable organization which the Star purports to be. Gobsmackingly mindboggling that so many people are trashing ES for calling out the Toronto Star. Sad statement on society, indeed.

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    Grasping at straws. Someone at the Star added a link. You don’t know who and you don’t know why and you don’t know if it was on anyone else’s orders or with their knowledge.

  • http://www.torontoist.com David Topping

    I’ve removed a few of the comments that were left here earlier, for violating the terms of our comment policy. Note that Torontoist welcomes all viewpoints (even jerkily-expressed ones, most of the time!), but that we won’t hesitate to remove libelous comments, no matter who they’re about. Thanks.

  • http://undefined E.D.

    I implore you not to vote for someone because you don’t like the followers of someone else’s candidacy.
    You sound like someone who wants to be well-informed about who they vote for, I applaud that. I also agree that you absolutely do not deserve any sort of name calling and that Rob Ford, though not a candidate that I like, doesn’t deserve that sort of slander either.
    People are a bit scared, I think. Rob Ford is doing well in the polls, mainly because the rest of the candidates, who are so alike, are splitting the vote. And everyday people want someone loud spoken, who can share in their rage.
    But that is no reason to vote for Ford! If you’ve done your research, ES, and you seem like a reasonable person, don’t allow this comment thread to lend your support to a politician with such unrealistic goals. Sure cutting taxes sounds great but public services cost money. Living costs money. We simply have to accept that and find a candidate who can manage money in the most beneficial way.
    I just moved here so I don’t have the ability to vote in Ontario… yet. So I feel even more determined to open a fair discussion.