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The Future is Retro for Steeles West Subway

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Flying atomic subways from the twenty-third century: how the new Steeles West station will look.


What is this? Is it: a. an underground moon base; b. a strange Japanese children’s TV programme; c. two vacuum-cleaner attachments in a pistol duel, or; d. the new design for Steeles West Station on the Spadina subway extension?
The plans [PDF], which form part of the $2.6 billion project to extend the subway north of Downsview, are likely to be approved by the TTC in today’s monthly commission meeting. (“The Spadina Subway Extension is fully funded and is proceeding as planned,” the TTC’s Brad Ross told us this morning, in the wake of pending TTC cuts. “Likewise, the SRT, Sheppard East, Eglinton Crosstown and Finch West LRTs for Transit City are also fully funded and are proceeding.”) The design for the station is quite outlandish compared with those approved last month for York University and Sheppard West.


The station entrances are on opposite corners of the intersection and seem to owe a great deal to the Jetsons; there should probably be a place for flying saucers to land somewhere. The multicoloured parasols are a nice touch too, though they seem more decorative than functional. And there’s another interesting feature, which incorporates the idea that each station on the extension should contain as much daylight as possible: a “light cone.” This is a skylight that will allow the sun to shine directly onto the subterranean platforms, and its opening will be at the southwest corner of the intersection. (Though were it to be on the pavement of Steeles West, it would be quite easy to gouge out one of the potholes.)

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A view of the street-level plans for Steeles West.


Steeles West Station will lie diagonally below the road and will be the first station to be built outside the boundaries of Toronto—half the station will be in Vaughan, half in Toronto. At Toronto’s end, there will be a TTC bus station and at Vaughan’s, a York Regional Transit bus station and a commuter parking lot with 1,900 spaces. The design shows a new road needs to be built north of the entrance to York U, but this is still being worked on. “Negotiations are ongoing between York Region and United Parcel Services (UPS) to acquire land,” says the report. Here’s the Google Street Map view.
Steeles West has been marked as the terminus on the proposed Jane LRT, part of Transit City. Unlike Sheppard West, where the hope is that the station will bring development, the new station will already have a few neighbours, which right now are fairly tricky to get to: the north part of York University, the Metro Toronto Track & Field Centre, and, of course, Black Creek Pioneer Village.
And, if everything goes the TTC’s way and members of the public approve at consultation, the much maligned street of Steeles could get its very own visitable, and slightly otherworldly, landmark.
Renderings courtesy of the TTC.

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  • http://undefined W. K. Lis

    Unfortunately, the outer stations are usually terminals for the bus routes. They need a bus bay where the drivers can take a break.
    But why should a bus that does not terminate at the station need to come into the station, when an onstreet transfer platform should be sufficient (like the old Bloor streetcar platforms).
    Montréal’s Metro does not have such palace stations.

  • http://undefined Gray

    When are people in this country going to learn that Center is spelled Centre?

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    Winter.

  • http://undefined rek

    Volume.

  • http://undefined TokyoTuds

    I love the design, and only hope that form followed function. The light-well design is a nice touch.

  • http://torontoist.is.not.nickwarzin.com/blog tapesonthefloor

    No one has mentioned yet the problem of “building over” yet another North York parking lot. Have a peek at what’s currently on this land:
    http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.775998,-79.50914&spn=0.006081,0.014999&t=h&z=17
    Are we really so apathetic that we’re going to stand idly by and watch North York’s most defining feature disappear acre by valuable acre? Won’t somebody please think about the asphalt?

  • Dan Gouge

    That’s a big improvement from the banal gray boxes that seemed to pass for architecture during my time at York.

  • http://undefined pman

    It would be nice to see architectural drawings from the point of view of people on the ground as opposed to birds. While they’re at it, perhaps the architects could incorporate a realistic description of the actual neighbouring streetscape – this bucolic fantasy is nothing like the real North York and it provides a completely misleading context for the architecture.

  • http://undefined jimvanm

    It has a kind of Teletubbies look to it. I love it.

  • http://undefined Ben

    It looks like something from Futurama or MST3K. I want to live in this station.

  • http://undefined rek

    Shouldn’t they have condo and office towers overhead, leased out to make the TTC some mad cash?

  • http://www.quinparker.com Quin Parker

    Correction: the “light cone” is going to be on the southwest corner of the intersection, not the northwest as originally published. Consider the error regretted.

  • http://undefined Svend

    It looks too sprawling, we need higher densities at all the subway stations and on all streetcar routes.

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    I keep suggesting that. Maybe everyone ignores it because it’s embarassingly obvious?

  • http://undefined Darren

    NYC was selling air rights over its subway stations back when horse drawn carriages were the norm in TO’s streets. Nice to see we’re a century behind NYC.
    Using weather or volume as an excuse to justify a NDP art-project the size of an airport terminal and trying to pass it off as a subway station is pathetic and backward thinking. We have millions to build this, and millions more for its enormos upkeep, yet we can’t afford to spend 3 million to study the DRL.
    And greenroofs are a non-issue hereas station are neither heated nor cooled. There should never ever be any busbays, any parking lots and above ground structures at a subway station. If there is then we’re building a subway in the wrong location; ie Vaughan. The population density of Vaughan is 873.1 per square KM as per the last census, yet in TO the density is 3,972 per square KM. So why are we shelving the study for the DRL??

  • http://undefined Darren

    Exactly. Its a case of an “empororer’s new clothes”
    We go along with the NDP art-roject as we assume only the left is pro-transit. Ironically the rightwing and soon to be brankrupt National Post is the only major paper calling for the creation of the DRL subway line

  • http://undefined atomeyes

    but the light cones.
    THINK ABOUT THE LIGHT CONES!!!

  • http://undefined BellaBella

    Looks pretty cool though, you have to admit… Is that an astro-turf roof? It would be neat if they put some kind of patio on top of there: maybe attract students from the university! Is there anything worth visiting up there in the vicinity anyways? (besides the exciting pioneer village..)

  • http://www.twitter.com/vicdezen Vic De Zen

    This looks very interesting. Pretty cool design. I’m surprised it has funding considering all the budget issues TTC has been experiencing. Hmmm…

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    Uh, what? I commented about real estate development on TTC properties as a way of generating revenue.
    How does the DRL have any relation to that? The NDP? The Post or its financial situation? Further, why can’t you spell, and what are you smoking?

  • http://undefined Pan Von Sol

    Congratulations:
    You’ve been trolled! (new window, definitely NSFW)

  • Amanda Happé

    neon-coloured amoeba shapes. anyone DARE to guess the designer? ; )

  • http://undefined TokyoTuds

    I have to retract my statement above, as posters below bring up something I subscribe to, but slipped due to being mesmerised by the design in a vacuum.
    High-density buildings should be built above this station while we have nearly green-field conditions. Rek, Paul Kishimoto and Darren nail it. But I think there might be more revenue for the TTC if they established a Real Estate Development Corporation to develop subway station land to their highest beneficial use, rather than sell the air rights.

  • http://undefined TokyoTuds

    Oh, and I meant to add that there is a rail corridor just north of this site, so a better sited station might in future be able to expand inter-modal travel with a GO Station or a VIA Station there.

  • http://www.quinparker.com Quin Parker

    Duuude. All of the definitions of ‘troll’ on the internet and you pick the one in the 4Chan directory? No, dude, no.

  • http://undefined mark.

    I’m not sure if I like this or not. If this were a station at, say, St. Patrick or somewhere in the core, then I would be very much in support of it. But since it’s up in farm land, I’m not sure it’s the right scale – perhaps the designers are assuming that density in this area will be higher in the future.
    I find it interesting that this station is meant to be a transfer point between the YRT and the TTC. I’ve been reading about the history of public transit in TO and have learned that much of the TTC was built to support and encourage sprawl – reaching farther and farther at the expense of good local public transit. I’m not totally aware of the facts for today, but I’m guessing that people living in Vaughan get a bit of a ‘free ride’ on the TTC – that it’s operating budget is funded solely by Toronto residents… or is it GTA residents …someone help me on this?

  • http://undefined Darren

    Typos aside, Im not smoking anything. My point referred to the current crop on council (ie the NDP cling-ons) who planned this whole extension, and agreed to it after immense pressure from Sorbara. This has everything to do with the DRL, because a mere 3 million dollar study for the DRL has been shelved to make room in the TTC capital budget. The TTC spends million on other crap like the artsy station reno projects like this and the Mususem reno (1/3 of the overall cost, as 1/3 came from the pivate sector and a 1/3 from the province). And I referenced the National Post, because it goes against the belief that only the ‘left’ are pro-transit. In other words; keep on voting NDP activists into city council, and you’ll keep on gettin art-projects instead of real transit.

  • http://undefined Darren

    They have a real estate board to do just that in Toronto, but in terms of the land above subways, they have yet to do anything sensible since the intensification over Eglinton station. VP was knocked down so it can replaced with a larger emptier station, and a green roof. Same will happen at Pape and Dufferin

  • http://undefined mattalexto

    Why isn’t this station being built on the York campus?
    Who wants to take the subway just to have to walk 20 minutes to your destination?

  • http://undefined Darren

    You think people actually walk up there?

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    @Pan, Quin: here you have it—not trolling, just hijacking a thread.

  • http://undefined EricSmith

    The amoeba parasols are an interesting feature (too bad they’ll be the first to go when the budget tightens). It would be easy to point to the HTO Park’s yellow permabrellas as the inspiration, but they aren’t the first. The doomed half-round Riverdale Hospital has some circular, multi-coloured parasols leading to its entrance, and there’s even a weird funnel shelter that’s part of a South Humber Park bathroom.

    But, yes, parks and a hospital? Clearly all parts of an NDP/Big Art conspiracy.

  • http://www.quinparker.com Quin Parker

    @mattalexto
    The station before this on the extension will actually be York University, and it’ll be in the middle of the bus turnaround on campus. There’s a link in the article to the design.

  • http://undefined Darren

    You bet your butt it sure is a NDP art project. When the design for the previous station was announced a few weeks ago, Giambronewas quoted as saying he only wishes King station could be this massive and have this much art. Subways arent art gallaries, and more then art galleries are transit systems. Stations are meant to be as conveniantly close to the surface and with minimal walking involved. Some cities actually dont incorporate crossovers in thier stations just to minimize on the walking from street to train. But we have a archeology major for a TTC chair

  • http://undefined Darren

    Wilson was supposed to be a transfer to YRT, hence the empty 3rd busbay. So was Downsview,thus the airport sized busbay hardly being used. Etc Etc Etc
    No one sees the pattern?? The TTC by spreading out its subway lines too far is encouraging sprawl in places where people will never build up and intensify. Yet we cant spend 3 million to study the DRL which is the best subway never built

  • http://piorkowski.ca/ qviri

    Darren, is the National Post website down or something?

  • http://undefined marccram

    What twaddle, nice place for a cow!

  • http://undefined Marco

    see the problem with this is that Toronto, is.. for lack of better words… ghetto. i mean, not in a bad way, but most of the city is square and its buildings are all from the 60s and 50s lol.. not that its a bad thing, it suits the city :D , but this is too elaborate.. as mentioned earlier it’d be best to just have a condo over it, and there is lack of land in teh city anyway, so having something this big will just cost us tax payers so must!!!

  • Darren

    I agree obviously, but what irks me is that questioning this whole project is seen as taboo. People know we have scarce capital dollars yet very few people question these designs