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August 13, 2007

Test Of The Danforth

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Photo by ~EvidencE~ from the Torontoist Flickr Pool.

It's not the closing of the main neighbourhood thoroughfare, the lack of parking, the crowds, the noise, or the piles of garbage that upsets people. Nor is it the idea of street festivals in the neighbourhood; indeed, more would be welcome. As a celebration of food along one of the best restaurant strips in the city, the Taste of the Danforth deserves its position as one of the city's most popular summer destinations. So why does it continue to disappoint?

A local takes in the TasteThis year's edition, which wrapped up Sunday night, continued the recent tradition of becoming less about the local community and more about generic mass merchandising. Examples? Many. One of the busiest spots on the strip was the Gillette Fusion trailer. You could play a video game for a few minutes inside this glorified truck trailer, receiving a free razor for your effort. We're not entirely sure what free razors have to do with Greektown unless it's a gentle hint to the local hirsute citizenry that they could stand to shave a bit more often. For the curious, the Fusion trailer is only slightly less juvenile than the web site.

On Saturday afternoon, we watched a lineup—never fewer than a dozen people deep—as it snaked toward the Dr. Oetker booth with its free samples of Ristorante pizza. That's right, people lined up for pieces of supermarket frozen pizza heated in a toaster oven right before their eyes. It must have seemed like magic.

We're not even talking about full slices here, but little toonie-sized tidbits you'd see at a sample table in a grocery store. Would you line up for one of those at the local Loblaws? Of course not. You'd curse the dozen people in line for getting in your way as you tried to push your cart past them. Yet hundreds, probably thousands, of people joined the never-ending queue for frozen pizza on Saturday. The booth workers pulled the magically-heated pies out of the toaster ovens and cut it up into tiny little pieces. The people in line snapped up their little morsels of cardboard and walked away triumphantly, believing that standing in line for five minutes to receive nineteen calories of sustenance stuck on the end of a toothpick was a good use of time. Surely every last one of those people went home and told their loved ones about the wonderful cuisine of the Danforth. Just like Dad serves at home!

Much of the middle of the street along its entire length was given over to the so-called beer gardens, this year run by the Pickle Barrel (which is an odd sight at the Taste of the Danforth, since the Pickle Barrel's nearest location is a brisk 45-minute walk away at Yonge & Dundas). The menu was expansive: you could choose from about 10 different kinds of beer to wash down your hot dog or burger, the only food available. Yet the plastic lawn chairs here were always full of people apparently enjoying their intake of frozen patties while surrounded by some of the best food the city has to offer.

Lawn chairs and all, a visit to the beer garden is basically the equivalent of spending a Saturday afternoon in your own backyard with a table full of your friends, except that the beer is five times the price, the burgers are limp, the radio is stuck on a station you can't stand, and a bazillion sweaty people are constantly streaming past your table. Other crowd pleasers included funnel cakes, roasted corn on the cob, and soft-serve ice cream—all things that you'd be hard-pressed to find on the Danforth any other day. Good thing you came halfway across the city to experience the wonderful local culture.

A hungry crowd searches for food at the Taste of the DanforthThere are signs that the Taste of the Danforth is beginning to suffer from its past successes and current disappointments. One of the concessionaires told us that organizers had warned him this year's Taste would be scaled back from previous editions. Sure enough, the kids' midway of rides and games was conspicuously absent, replaced by a pitiful stretch that looked like it had been slapped together at the last minute. Two activities in particular stood out: Build the Acropolis, a fenced-in holding pen that featured a sad assortment of building blocks and rubber cushions set out on the street for youngsters to play with; and Dress Like an Ancient Greek, which somehow translated to jumping around on a flexible pogo stick. The former midway area did have one thing going for it: a small outdoor skating rink in the middle of August.

Things were looking a little more positive for kids at the other end of the street, where they could play Leafs™ hockey, Raptors™ basketball, Jays™ baseball, Rock™ lacrosse, and Toronto FC™ soccer. The lone unbranded children's activities that we saw this year were the beach volleyball court and the rock-climbing wall.

What about the famous cheap eats? Sure, many people remember the Taste of the Danforth from the early years, when the tastes really were bargains. Such is frequently not the case any more. These days, even the dollar stores are selling two bottles of water for $1.50, a 50% markup from the usual two for a buck. Then there was the restaurant that was selling stuffed pitas for $5, right in front of the sandwich board that advertised the very same thing for a mere $3.95 any other day of the year. While this is hardly gouging on the level of most concert or sports venues, it's no bargain either. You can easily spend $30 or more on enough samples to satisfy your stomach for an afternoon. Be sure to come back next weekend, when you can spend half that in many of the excellent restaurants along the street and be just as satisfied.

So the question remains, why do people come to the Taste of the Danforth? It's absolutely the worst way to experience the neighbourhood because much of what is imported for the event is so generic that it could be called the Taste Of Some Random Place Where We Happen To Be Holding The Corporate Branding Festival This Week. The restaurants are too crowded for all but a lucky few to get tables, the stores are too packed to enjoy shopping, and it's impossible to walk anywhere along the street without merely flowing with the crowd. It can't be for the live shows, which you can get any Friday or Saturday night at more than a dozen venues along the strip, running the gamut from bouzouki and blues to flamenco and belly dancing, with a dash of comedy for your enjoyment. It can't be for the bargains, which are harder to find this weekend than any other. And it can't be for the atmosphere, which is best described as, "walking down the street with 100,000 of your most disappointed friends."

The midway at the 2006 Taste of the DanforthLocal residents really don't object to people coming to see the neighbourhood, they just wish the visitors would spread out over the other 51 weeks every year. It's not as if the subway only rumbles across the viaduct for these three short days in August every year. The Danforth isn't like the Ex, rolling up its tent on Sunday night and disappearing for another year. It's always here. If you come see the Danny on any other weekend, you can enjoy the restaurants, the shops, and the sights of the street at your own pace. One of the locals would be happy to show you around. But don't expect them to do it during the Taste; many of them flee the neighbourhood that weekend. Coincidentally, of course.

There is hope for the future. What the Taste of the Danforth really requires is a return to its roots. Not that it has to go all the way back to welcoming just 5000 visitors like it did during its first year. Its roots are currently confined to the sidewalks, in the booths set up by the local merchants in front of their stores and restaurants. All of the prime real estate in the middle of the street festival is given over to the Proctor & Gambles, Pickle Barrels, and Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainments of the world. These do not represent the Danforth by any stretch of the imagination. Nor do interminable Soviet Union-style food lines.

The Taste needs to bring the food and the Danforth back into the middle of the street and to celebrate the people and cultures of the neighbourhood. The imported generic corporate fluff should be sent packing. Will it make the Taste of the Danforth smaller? Almost certainly. But it would also turn the celebration back over to one of the city's most colourful and diverse neighbourhoods. And how could that possibly be a bad thing?

Top photo by ~EvidencE~. Middle right photo by AtillaSoylu. Middle left photo by gerrychu. Bottom photo by photoderek. All from the Torontoist Flickr Pool.


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Comments (22)

i went on sunday and thought it was pretty meh, so i sympathize with your argument. but i think you're way off-base when you try to impugn the very idea of a street festival. yeah, all these things exist the rest of the year, but it's their concentration on the street, and the crowds themselves that draw people, and rightly so. who doesn't go to something like that to people-watch?

i'm also not convinced by your bit about the locals who naturally agree with you and flee the neighbourhood. which locals? do they represent the community in general? are you one of them?

 

It was my first time, and I was there for the food and the Greek culture (of what i could see). I've been to a couple of the restaurants and the festival was just something I wanted to check out. But yea, Gillette Fusion, Western Union? WTF? It would be realy nice if we could have a gathering of people anywhere without the corporate machine needing to make a show and hawk their crap.
I agree, I don't think we need a "beer garden", I didn't even bother looking for a seat anywhere.
A street festival with food, culture, music and NO corporations.
I, for one, am just tired of someone trying to sell or push something on me everywhere I go.
Stop trying to sell me crap I don't need or want everytime I go outside. "Wow, Gillette Fusion, ya know, I was hoping they would be here. I would've never known where to get a fricken stupid razor."

 

My wife and I are moving to an apartment just a couple streets south of Danforth near Chester station, so I decided to check out Taste of the Danforth this year to find out what we'lll be in for in the future. My take corresponds perfectly to the perspective offered in this piece.

Maybe I'm just a hippy freak, but the atmosphere was too busy, too commercial and too hostile, there was too much trash blowing around in the streets, and the rowdiness meant that too many cops were required to keep the beer garden from boiling over in the summer heat. I guess I prefer a low-key, playful sort of street festival like Pedestrian Sundays in Kensington to a corporate PR-fest for Money Mart, Reactine, Steelback, et al.

If we had come by to check out the neighbourhood *during* Taste instead of in the weeks before, we might have re-considered moving to the area. It's night an day, really, with this past weekend being the *night* part. I'll certainly plan on avoiding Danforth this time next year.

 

I went for the first time as well and it definitely brought memories of going to the Ex to mind, only without the rides, exhibitions or even midway. Maybe I just happened to be there at an inopportune time (we started at Broadview while some highschool band was doing an American Woman cover and ended at Jones to hear about Greece as read in an encyclopedia). I got the distinct feeling that if I came back next week I could eat all the same food and walk the same street without being elbow to elbow or getting $5 lemonade thrown at me.

I'd much prefer a good street festival over North America's 'largest'.

 

I'm currently working in the same industry that sends the corporate sampling folks to ToTD. To be honest, the organizers of the event have such an inflated event-ego that they charge incredibly ridiculous amounts for prime space.

A 10'x10' area on the street during the event costs upwards of $10,000. How many neighborhood restaurants or stores can afford something like that? It's disgusting.

 

Jeef, i live a 15 minute walk north of the Danforth. I also worked on the Danforth for 2 years. I can tell you that locals hate the festival. none of my neighbours went to it.
personally, i think that its a great festival if you want to wander mindlessly and be bumped and pushed by countless strangers. the food? why bother. the beer and music? pretty crappy. the atmosphere? crowded and "happening", i guess.
the new corporate angle to it is lame. last year, when walking home from work, i received free Clodhoppers and Nicorette. very Greek (not like the Danforth is Greektown anymore, with sushi, thai, egyptian and italian fare available).

i disagree with the author when he repeatedly states that the Danforth has fabulous food or says that the Danforth is a great destination. not sure where you're eating, but most of the greek restaurants are boring. if i go to the danforth, its to 7 Numbers or Globe. as far as shops go, most shops have been replaced with strange things (look at the 2 private medical offices on Danforth and Broadview) and a new mega-Shoppers Drug Mart is apparently opening up within the year.
Greektown is a has-been area. Danforth East, with its good restaurants (Ethiopian and Mexican!!) and bars like Sarahs are where its at.

 

I went to ToTD a few years ago with a friend and we walked around for about 5 minutes and got fed up. It was a nightmare, and as mentioned, very little Greek food compared to everything else. I'll never go back...I can enjoy Greek food any other day of the year peacefully and without being shoved.

 

I went for the first time this year with a friend who had never been either - both of us Toronto natives- and we both agreed that it was the last time.

When I met her at the Pizza Pizza at Danforth and Broadview (not for Pizza, but to meet) I joked that it wasn't a good sign that the inside was packed. Our opinion of the festival? Too many people, long line ups, too much garbage, not worth the visit.

While the food was cheap, most of it is the same fare that you can get year round. There was non-local food such as funnel cakes, yams and roasted corn but what's the point in going to Taste of the Danforth to eat corn? It defies the event name.

My old boss was a local and used to complain about the parking problem for residents with street parking permits.

Why don't we support the neighbourhood the rest of the year at a leisurely pace instead of choosing one weekend to descend and fighting through crowds?

 

It sucked on Friday night, thats all I know. I decided, if I hated it Friday NIGHT, no way was I going back to scorch in the sun.

 

I live about two blocks north of Carlaw/Danforth, and yah, a lot of the locals do decide to spend the weekend elsewhere. "Flee" might be a strong word, though. None of my neighbours really has anything bad to say about the festival itself, and everyone seems to think it's good for the local merchants, but otherwise I think most locals prefer the Danforth when there aren't 1,000,000 other people on the street. That, and parking is a nightmare (even if you don't rely on street parking, just getting to your spot can be impossible), it can be noisy (depending on where you live), and the litter on front lawns is tiresome (they do a great job cleaning up the streets after the festival is over, though).

I agree with the general sentiment that there needs to be something more interesting. Last few years, it's just really dull.

 

I used to go to the fest every year but after last year, I said no more. I saw very little Greek culture there and I did not find it interesting, fun or entertaining. The food has gone up in price and down in quality.

I usually get a great Gyro on the Danforth, for 3.95 and a large one at that, but during the fest, the price climbs to 5 dollars, the meat portion is cut in half, the salad is almost non-existent and I have to wait 10 minutes to get it. I ended up spending 20 bucks on food and was not satisfied. I felt ripped off and did not enjoy my day, so I will keep eating my Gyros but not at The Taste Of The Danforth.

It seems like every street in Toronto now has to have a festival (great in theory) but for some reason they all seem the same. Can't anybody use a bit of imagination to try something different and original? They all seem to have the same look and feel, no matter which neighbourhood they're in. It's all become so corporate and boring. We just line a street with booths selling over-priced food, put up a few cheap stages and hire local musicians to play a few songs, get a few corporations to sponsor booths (Do we need more Roger's cell phones?)and of course a few beer gardens. It's the exact same formula for every BIA sponsored festival. Can somebody put in the tiniest effort to do something a little different or is this city just gonna become so bland that nobody gives a shit? I used to go to all the festivals and street fairs but I'm taking a rest from the BIA fests, as there is only so much blandness a person can take.

 

Taste of the Danforth is vulgar and tacky in all the wrong ways, as are the throngs of ill- and underdressed attendees.

You didn’t do enough complaining about the stench, either.

 

Time was it may have been good for the local merchants, but that time is long past. The event itself is a huge money loser for the merchants, the packed tables give a mistaken impression, one chef I know says his average take is like 1/3 of what it is on a regular weekend night and he loses money, you can't sell seven dollar apps and 15-20 entrees to people who've already stuffed themselves on samples so you get a lot of people only ordering drinks and sharing apps but you can't really turn the tables any faster.

When we lived out by TEGH we went religiously (we were 2 of those famous 5000 at the first one) but since we moved into the neighborhood 8 years ago I think we've only gone about 50% of the time.

I wouldn't be surprised if NONE of the Greek places cooked their own food this year, I know that several of them have outsourced to caterers over the years and as far as I got on Friday night all of them were selling bought out spanikopita and baklava.

Some of the merchant's I've talked to would be happy to see the event die but the two BIAs are too attached to the money they can make off the corporate sponsorships. I noticed this year that there was NO mention of the charity fundraising for the TEGH that was once the supposed raison d'etre for the festival.

 

My feelings exactly. This was my 3rd and last year. Overpriced, crappy food and free samples. That's all I saw.

Went to the hot and spicy food fest... and well, I'm pretty much done with any "food" fest at this point. It's all the same overpriced rubbish, just the street changes.

 

Guest #6: Medical clinics are neither "strange" nor foreign to the Danforth; even organic granola-eating vegetarian hipsters need doctors. As for Danforth East, Jean's Vegetarian Kitchen and Basil Thai Kitchen (formerly Jean's Fine Foods) are two incredible bookends to a budding strip. I believe there are a few medical clinics in the area, too.

joeclark: The stench is one of the few things I like about the Taste of the Danforth.

Chester Pape: Outsourcing would explain why the gyros at the Alexandros booth was visibly inferior to the gyros in the Alexandros restaurant just a few steps away.

 

oh dear god - the blogto disease is here too.

This was my first ToTD (although I am no stranger to Danforth food). Yes it's corporate but who's to blame for that? Who are these nameless faceless organisers? Yes it's all so terrible and yet tens of thousands turn up - isn't this Toronto getting what it deserves? I bet it was still less corpo than the Beer Festival.

Watch and see - Caribana will end up like this too. That's what the price of it being eternally dysfunctional and money losing will be.

 

Somehow in editing my previous entry I forgot to make a point which is:

The local merchant part of ToTD is no gold mine, most of the restaurants either lose money or don't make much. The only way the festival can survive in it's current form is to take sponsorship money. The idea of some kind of self financing street festival with just the local merchants participating is just not possible, for whatever reason (frankly beats me) people like to go to this thing in droves so maybe it deserves to survive in it's current form.

 

In my estimation, this event has jumped the shark.

It left a bad taste in my mouth many years ago.

It even turned me off from visiting the strip at other times of the year.

I haven't been back to the Danforth since.

 

We went to the event when we first moved to the Danforth about 10 years ago, but as the crowds, noise and garbage have increased we've stopped going. We also noticed all of our neighbours have taken to calling it "Waste of the Danforth" - a perfect name if you ask me.

 

I'm greek but never go to this event. I think it's overhyped and will probably continue to be so. Ironically, you could get pretty cheap souvlaki on Spadina and Dundas the same weekend for the street festival there.

 

I used to go, but stopped when I had a kid. When she was in a stroller, it was difficult for me and terrifying for her. Now, the crowds are huge and the play areas are gone. She loves greek food, so we go other times instead. She's 5. This is not a 'family event' which is what I consider a cultural festival to be.

 

I've avoided the Taste for several years... the last time I went (and to be honest, it was on the Sunday and as it was shutting down, and I was going out for dinner) people were slowly filtering away, and the stands pretty much shut down. One stand closing had been selling (or sampling, not sure which) fruit smoothies (that famous Greek beverage), and when it closed they had a big stack of ripe bananas. One of the staff hollered out "Free bananas! Free bananas!" And suddenly a stampede of fervent banana lovers swarmed the little stand grabbing bananas higgledy piggledy. Honestly, as if bananas aren't the cheapest fruit in the grocery store... jeez. These people went nuts for bananas. My partner and I joked there must have been lots of potassium deprived people out that day.

yeah, that was the last. I enjoy dinner out on the Danforth probably half a dozen times a year - but not on that day. No thanks!

 
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