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Duly Quoted: John Tory, on Being in Favour of Cycling Opportunities…

...as long as they don't get in the way of people "getting around."

“My priority from day one as mayor is going to be to … keep traffic moving in this city, and I am in favour of making opportunities available for cyclists to get around the city too, because that will help, in its own way, to get traffic moving, too. But I want to look at the results of discussions that are going on today and other days and make sure that whatever we do, we are not putting additional obstructions in the way of people getting around in this city … “

-Mayoral candidate John Tory, talking to Global News this morning about his stance on the bike corridor proposal being debated by the public works committee today. The pilot project would involve a number of bike-related streetscape modifications, including the introduction of a cycle track going westbound on Richmond Street, between York and Bathurst streets, and a track going eastbound on Adelaide Street, from Bathurst to Simcoe streets.

So cyclists, take heart! Tory apparently supports the interests of cyclists, as long as those interests are ones shared by motorists (who can also, it seems, be referred to simply as “people getting around in this city”).

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  • torontothegreat

    “So cyclists, take heart! Tory apparently supports the interests of cyclists, as long as those interests are ones shared by motorists (who can also, it seems, be referred to simply as “people getting around in this city”).”

    <3

  • Mike

    A lack of bike lanes is one of the obstructions in the way of me (and many others) getting around this city. Does that make me not a person by Tory’s definition?

    • LaszloZoltan

      you don’t need a bike lane, you just need to understand how to ride safely with traffic.

      (signed me, former bike courier avid cyclist, GTA az driver)

      • Mike

        All lanes are bike lanes. But designated bike lanes still make it easier.

        • LaszloZoltan

          I agree, all lanes are bike lanes, but the designated lanes may seem easier, I will argue they make it much more confusing and dangerous to navigate when there is an obstruction (for whatever reason, legal, or not, construction or other) in that designated lane. It further endangers cyclists by introducing a mentality that ignores the need to be aware of cyclists on the road not in bike lanes.

          Too many cops are nazis enforcing a no sidewalk riding bylaw when the rider is traveling at a pedestrian pace- which pushes those elderly, ill heath, and youngsters onto roadways causing a demand for designated bike lanes. The roads in Toronto are fairly old meaning there is not much space for vehicles to maneuver safely or efficiently.

          Safe commuting is a shared responsibility.

  • bobloblawbloblawblah

    Say what you will about the numbskill who is our current Mayor at least you knew where he stood. He hates anything that gets in his way of a nice drive home. He hates the (fictitious) war on the car”. Tory? He feels the same but he dances around the subject so that he won’t alienate some voters. Really he’s just saying they’ll maintain the status quo and cyclists don’t count.

    • bobloblawbloblawblah

      Look, I said something nice about Rob Ford.

      • OgtheDim

        If thumbing down meant anything anymore in Disqus, I do it just so you’d feel better about your apostasy.

        • TheSotSays

          “apostasy” you call it?

          I must say Ogdy old boy I agree with you. No question about it, the NDP Ford haters constitute what is obviously an uninformed religious cult.

          • Squintz

            Unlike Ford’s supporters, who base their support on deeply considered logical reasoning.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    I’m not sure if he’s just being vague, betraying a total lack of vision, or softly telling non-motorists in this city where they stand.

    • the_lemur

      Probably all three is what he’s aiming for, in his usual wishy-washy way.

    • tomwest

      He’s implying he might do something, but only if it makes no ones life worse.

  • SonuvaScrimbro

    No surprises here — Tory is clearing gunning for the same Ford demographic that sees cyclists on a par with communists or worse, and the last thing he wants is for Ford or another candidate to paint him as someone who might actually give in to their “crazy” demands.

    Love this part: “I am in favour of making opportunities available for cyclists to get around the city too, because that will help, in its own way, to get traffic moving, too.” “In its own way,” you say, John? Which way is that? And why feel the need to tack “in its own way” to that sentence?

    The weasel words — they’ll get ya every time.

    • OgtheDim

      I wonder if he’s trying to paint himself as not like that ideologue Hudak?

    • tyrannosaurus_rek

      It tells me he doesn’t see bicycles as traffic.

  • tomwest

    “… make sure that whatever we do, we are not putting additional obstructions in the way of people getting around in this city”
    Cars seem to be main obstruction. I see them blocking streetcars and hoardes of pedestrians on a regular basis.

    • LaszloZoltan

      I think you have your glasses on backwards, those streetcars tend to block everyone else- they are a terrible danger. I’ve witnessed on more than one occasion a car smashing into another because the streetcar tracks were wet causing him to slide into another car making a turn and having to stop because someone decided to run across the crosswalk unexpectedly. Not to mention how many cyclists are caused to fall because of those tracks too.

  • vampchick21

    Somehow I recall Tory being far better at this campaigning thing in the past. You’d almost think he’s jumpy about what he says/does this time around (especially with the antics of Ford and Hudak’s patently false smile as he threatens to cut everything as a background).

    • Jim_Clarke

      Yes, that sounds right — and thank you for clarifying what I hadn’t figured out.

      • vampchick21

        I liked him much better the last time he campaigned for Mayor, and when he was running in the Provincial election. This time around he’s, well, to use other people’s words, wishy-washy. Not the Tory I was expecting. Ah well, there’s a nice selection of candidates for Mayor anyway and I’ve got time to make my decision.

  • HotDang

    I don’t think this will play as well with the right wing voters as Ford’s “eat shit and die, cyclist/commies” schtick.

    • vampchick21

      SUBWAYS!

  • istoronto

    Classic Tory! Yes? – Maybe. No? – Maybe. Maybe? – Maybe.

  • Dinah Might

    Does John Tory think that only stationary bikes use bike lanes? Has he never heard of this other type of bicycle that can, y’know, go places, and “get around”?

  • herb

    Note that under conservative councillor Minnan-Wong on public works we’re closer to getting protected bike lanes on Richmond/Adelaide and completing the Harbord-Wellesley corridor than we ever would have gotten under Miller. It’s strange, then, that Tory has decided that his anti-bike lane stance is smart.

    Not every neighbourhood is the same. Even on Eglinton, the community and the BIA supported the Eglinton Connects plan with bike lanes.

  • vampchick21

    I wouldn’t imagine Kouvalis being or encouraging wishy-washyness. Unless you are suggesting that Kouvalis is a Ford plant?

  • LaszloZoltan

    I know Tory is a Con (and I am 100% opposite on the political spectrum), but he seems to be open minded and willing to fairly consider ideas and opinions not his own.

    • tyrannosaurus_rek

      As long as those ideas don’t put anything in the way of motorists.

  • Dave

    And this is why Ford still has over 20 percent support. His opponents are so afraid of taking clear positions against him – and pissing off the Ford Nation ideologues – that they’re constantly coming out with mushy non-statements like this one. It’s the only reason Ford still has a fighting chance at re-election (presuming he doesn’t first die of a cocaine-induced heart attack).