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Mayoral Candidates Respond to Latest Rob Ford Revelations

The mayor's main rivals issue statements about newly released police documents—or at least most of them do.

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A number of Rob Ford’s rivals in the election race have issued statements about the police documents released today—which contain a description of the notorious crack-smoking video and provide more details about the mayor’s relationship with Alessandro Lisi.

Olivia Chow released the following statement:

The ongoing revelations about Mr. Ford again show why he’s no role model for our children. Our city is tired of the distractions and needs a new mayor. Tomorrow, I will continue to release specific ways we can get people moving faster—now. Because Mr. Ford’s greatest failure as mayor is failing to plan for and invest in practical ways our city can do more for families, create jobs and get people moving faster.

John Tory had this to offer:

The ongoing saga is distracting our city, and creating a stalemate at City Hall. It is time for us to move forward, and elect a new mayor who will make Toronto more livable, affordable and functional.

The David Soknacki camp also weighed in:

Regardless of any disclosures that may emerge from ongoing legal proceedings, David Soknacki believes it’s already clear to Torontonians that Mayor Rob Ford must be replaced. The people of Toronto deserve leadership that represents their best interests and helps build a city we can be proud of.

And a spokesperson for the Karen Stintz campaign offered the following comment in an email to CTV News:

We have no comment about Rob Ford documents at this time.


  • The Doctor

    Karen Stintz proving again that she is tragically unaware of what it actually means to hold public office or be a leader.

    • dsmithhfx

      At this point it is fairly safe to say that each of the viable candidates (obviously excluding the current mayor) is under the control of their respective handlers. We may only speculate on what strategies they may be pursuing, and how the campaign will unfold.

      • OgtheDim

        Stintz’s handlers need to get their game on.

        • dsmithhfx

          Maybe not rushing in with the first reaction is their game. Maybe I don’t have a clue. Maybe you don’t either.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Come October nobody is going to remember or care that Stintz didn’t have a comment on this matter at the time of publication.

          • dsmithhfx



            Come, October nobody is going to remember Stintz.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            I hope not; we need her to split the conservative vote.


            I overstated. She might scrape into the teens in terms of percentage of vote share. Not Rocco Rossi-bad, but nothing to write home about, either. Useful enough to sap the non-Ford conservative vote, but not enough to become a viable candidate herself.

          • OgtheDim

            It doesn’t take much to prepare for stuff like this, given the last year.

            Sorry, but “no comment at this time’ doesn’t cut it from somebody who is hoping to be mayor.

          • dsmithhfx

            There’s only so many ways you can say it. If everyone else does, not much point.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    Who was Tory endorsing with that response?

    • dsmithhfx


  • SonuvaScrimbro

    From the Globe’s report on the latest Ford revelations:

    >> The approximately one-minute video, with the unremarkable file name of, shows the mayor “consuming what appears to be a narcotic” inside a home, the documents say.

    Just for fun, let’s plug “3:12″ into the old online Bible search and… whoa hey now, isn’t that interesting:

    Mark 3:12 (New American Standard Bible)
    “And He earnestly warned them not to tell who He was.”

    Yeah…. I think you could have been a little more earnest there, Robbie.

  • bobloblawbloblawblah

    “We have no comment about Rob Ford documents at this time.”

    Huh? You’ve got nothing to say? You sure you want to be Mayor?

    • HotDang

      Rob Ford controversy reflects more poorly on her than it does the other candidates, as she was one of his flunkeys for the better part of his term, and continued supporting him for the most part after splitting (and later flipping) on the transit issue. Maybe it is a piss poor attempt at reducing her exposure to guilt by association?

  • NiceMugShot

    Go away, Ford, you vile narcissist. Look what you have done you arrogant shady pig.

  • wklis

    What did Doug Ford (best campaign manager ever) say?

  • TheSotSays

    What we should really be doing is making the position of “Police Chief” an elected office.
    With that in place we would have, in 2010, thrown Blair into the same garbage can we threw NDP Miller.

    • dsmithhfx

      Miller was not a candidate in 2010.

      • HotDang

        I read a poll that said he would have won, had he run.

        • tyrannosaurus_rek

          Don’t confuse Sotty with facts. The poor thing thinks Jack Layton is running for mayor now.

          • CanuckleDragger

            He’s not?

      • TheSotSays

        That’s a stupid remark redolent of what we’ve come to expect from the NDP. MIller was metaphorically thrown into the garbage can and you know it.

        And with this upcoming election we will be metaphorically throwing Jumper Jack into a similar garbage accompanied by his “wife.”

        • HotDang

          I can’t imagine we’ll be throwing a national hero into the garbage. He died at the top of his game and at the peak of his popularity. People trying to discredit Olivia with sleaze tactics against her dead husband come across as desperate, unfeeling, and pathetic. Not to mention misguided. She is not Jack. They’re two different people.

          And what’s with the scare quotes on “wife?” Shouldn’t that be “widow?”

          • TheSotSays

            You call her whatever you like I know what I call her.

            But your in bad shape when you start referring to vice squad found-ins as national heros.

          • HotDang

            desperate, unfeeling, and pathetic

          • OgtheDim

            Yup, leave it to the neo-socialist to like the labeling of people based on his own whim.

            If you can’t implement your own bureaucracy based on cronyism, like David Price and his $160K a year job, you create the bureaucracy in your own head.

          • TheSotSays

            Well what I didn’t create in my “head” was an NDP supported organization called the Velvet Touch.

            That was created on a completely different body part by one of your Fetish Idols.

          • OgtheDim

            Now there you go again….making total assumptions about places based on your own visions while ignoring the places right in front of you just because your populist neo-socialist hero frequented a certain place on a certain street.

            Just like a typical populist neo-socialist, creating some whacked out idea that only Dippers go to massage parlours, just so you can go on and on and on about them.

            Meanwhile, not a peep…..not one peep about that good old organization called the Crips.

          • TheSotSays


          • dsmithhfx

            You know, Og’s not an NDP or Chow supporter. But you might change his mind.

          • TheSotSays

            I don’t think Og knows what he is and neither does your 55 year old girl friend VampChick21.

    • HotDang

      Terrible idea. Then you’d have crass populists like Ford making decisions about law enforcement. And chiefs who owe political favours.

      Can you imagine a police chief who owed Rob Ford a big favour being in office? He would have covered up the whole crack video fiasco, and might have covered up for Lisi. I could even see an elected chief with ties to Rob Ford going so far as to sabotage the Dixon raids that precipitated a lot of this scandal. So you’d end up living in a city with more drugs and gangs because the mayor is a juvenile delinquent in a mayor’s body who should have gone to rehab years ago. No thanks.

      • TheSotSays

        Although they’ve been trying to hide it, the NDP is the dirty thing that introduced party politics to Toronto.

        Blair’s appointment was controversial because Miller ignored the best candidate, the logical candidate, the acting chief.

        I’ve not seen a Police Chief that owes Ford a favour but Blair is clearly an NDP/Liberal Party freak show and the NDP deserves to be skinned for bringing it about..

        • OgtheDim

          Both Boyd and Blair were deputy chiefs.

          Blair preferred the CHEAPER option of public policing, wheras Boyd was an old school spender and budget padder who went on to great renown in Edmonton.

          But then we know you LOVE to spend money, you populist neo-socialist types.

          • TheSotSays

            I’m sticking with it and so is everyone but a few flakes in the NDP who’ve conveniently forgotten that Blair is a blatant horse facetious opportunist who put half their membership behind a chain link fence when McGinty asked him to do it.

            Time we elected these clowns so the taxpayers can throw them out.

          • OgtheDim

            Now, there you go again……

            Doing your populist neo-socialist schtick.

            Never actually admit that your ideas are the most expensive waste of time stuff going on out there.

            Just do a bit of a hatchet job on people who disagree with you and who call you out for LOVING to spend taxpayers money while you go on talking about taxpayers as if you give a flying fig about them.

            I am so GLAD that REAL conservative types know better then you neo-socialist types with your squeeling about taxpayers as you squeeze out as much from the trough as you can for your friends and business partners.

            Need that lot beside you cleaned up, Mr. Mayor? Why sure, lets just spend a FEW TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HARD EARNED TAXPAYERS $ to clean it up for your own little party.

            Gotta a business client who has an issue with the City, Mr. Mayor? Why, sure, lets just call in guys who are getting paid $100 an hour to take dictation for you.

          • TheSotSays

            Well the moronic NDP under Miller should have thought of it before they introduced Chicago sewer politics to Toronto.

            It’s stinks: NDP/Miller/Layton/Chow, it’s a cascade

            The voters will add it to the list and realize that on top of it Chow has just put the taxpayers to the cost of a federal by-election, that she and her late husband were the amongst the biggest expense account plunderers in Ottawa, that the last time she was here she got kicked off the Police Commission, that she’s likely double dipping from every government pension available and that her actions with respect to public housing are questionable.

            I think she’s toast and well she should be.

          • OgtheDim

            Well there you go again…..

            Like a good populist neo-socialist, just ignoring your fellow traveler who brought in the lowest of sewer politics hypocrisy.

            The day after he spends time smoking crack with the Crips, your populist neo-socialist hero says this, as quoted by Torontoist:

            ” It’s the gangs. I think we really have to go after these gangs. But it’s hard to tell who’s really in the gangs, and what they’re all about. Police are doing everything they can. So I’m just frustrated. It really bothers me when I hear about this.”

            Yup….the mayor smokes crack with the drug gangbangers and then says he doesn’t know them.

            How low and sewer like can we go?

            The Crips.

            These guys have RUINED lives.

            How much has Brazen cost? How much has all this stuff cost?

            Cause one populist neo-socialist didn’t answer the call to help out good hard working taxpayers in Toronto by letting the cops know who was dealing drugs.

            So what if he had to rat out his friend Lissi.

            Only sewer rats let sewer rats live unheeded.

            Well, populist neo-socialist sewer rats, it seems.

          • TheSotSays

            Here’ some dirty limerick material for you, have at it:


          • OgtheDim

            Now, there you go again doing that whole assumption thing that populist neo-socialists do when confronted with the truth.

            Your boy – smokes crack with the Crips.

            The rest of us – talk about policies to make this city better and stop WASTING HARD EARNED TAXPAYERS $’s like the current mayor, being the populist neo-socialist that he is, does with his subway to a Canadian Tire, and his NOT TELLING THE COPS ABOUT HIS GANG FRIENDS WHEN ASKED.

          • TheSotSays

            How low? The Velvet Touch, known amongst the local poets as the”clinic” is pretty low.

            White slavery, prostitution, illegal immigration, child abuse and drugs. All in the lap and chronicles of Jumper Jack, the Duke of Downtown Toronto.

            Did you know that In 2009 the Duchess of Downtown Toronto, the Duke’s child bride, racked up $530,000 in parliamentary a time when she was still co-habiting with his Lordship.


          • OgtheDim

            Now there you go again….

            typical populist neo-socialist, yelling about stuff from 30 years ago when we got a FINE example of a guy supporting the Crips, who also work in Drugs, extortion, prostitution, bribery, murder for hire, gun running, illegal gambling and more.

            And who would that guy be?

            Why, our mayor that you support.

            Typical hypocrisy of you trough loving populist neo-socialist types.

    • OgtheDim

      Now there you go again….

      wanting to spend money creating a bureaucracy.

      Don’t you populist neo-socialists know how expensive elections are?

      But, hey, lets spend HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of HARD EARNED TAXPAYER’S $ so you can get a crony elected.

      Hey…..I hear Dave Price needs a job.

      If Lisi walks, maybe he can be his deputy.

      • TheSotSays

        You should go back to writing jingles for NOW magazine.

        And you should stop quoting Ronald Reagan because it makes you look stupid AND confused.

        • OgtheDim

          Now there you go again….

          getting all upset because a REAL man, Reagan, who talked the talk and walked the walk, even if he was a confused old coot, said a truth that you can’t handle.

          He knew people following a track that made no sense when he heard it.

          Yup, you populist neo-socialists just can’t handle the truth that you will NEVER come close to Reagan’s toe fluff, let alone doing real stuff to help out hard working taxpayers.

          Your hero? He would look at you populist neo-socialists as some kinda wingnut.

          • TheSotSays

            You should stop quoting a man you hate and despise because it makes you look stupid AND confused.

            You should get yourself a Gord Perks fluffy mitt and go about quoting Leon Trotsky instead.

          • dsmithhfx

            You know what’s really funny, here you are ranting and raving about the NDP and socialists, but Rob Ford has managed to alienate virtually the entire conservative caucus in City Hall — including the likes of Stintz, Minnan-Wong, Thompson, Norm Kelly united against him and voted to strip him of his powers.

            The NDP-aligned counsellors such as Perks, Layton and Vaughan didn’t have to lift a finger. Oh how we laughed!

            And Rob’s response is what — double-down on his public-drunken idiocy, his bullying, taunting the police and cheap name-calling? You can’t make this stuff up.

            Oh wait, the besotted one can make this stuff up and much, much more.

            Eagerly waiting for your next comedy posting, Sotty.

          • TheSotSays

            What’s really funny here is Olivia Chow, the flake candidate chosen by the Toronto branch NDP

            The voters will realize she’s just put the taxpayers to the cost of a by-election, that she and her late husband were the amongst the biggest expense account plunderers in Ottawa, that the last time she was here she got kicked off the Police Commission, that she’s likely double dipping from every government pension available and that her actions with respect to public housing are questionable.

            I think she’s toast and well she should be.

          • MER1978

            “The voters will realize she’s just put the taxpayers to the cost of a by-election” … I’m sure you complained non stop when Doug Ford mused about running provincially FOR HIS ENTIRE TERM.

            Double dipping from every government pension available… what the hell are you talking about… there are no special Olivia Chow only pension rules… she will get the exact same benefit any person in her position would receive.

          • TheSotSays

            I’m waiting for the Liberals to run George Smitherman then we can have two candidates on the roster collecting widow’s benefits.


            She is donating her MP’s pension. Perhaps you missed that.

          • TheSotSays

            Perhaps I did?

            And who will be the beneficiary of this unprecedented largesse?
            Have you seen a cancelled cheque?

            Talk, NDP talk, is cheap and by my reckoning she still owes that subsidized co-op about 400 bucks a month for 6 years.

          • OgtheDim

            Now there you go again….typical populist neo-socialist demanding behaviour of somebody when DoFO, your paragon of largesse, refuses to tell us where he donates our HARD EARNED TAXPAYER’S $ to and get a charity receipt out of.

            Typical populist neo-socialist to spread muck that doesn’t exist when the biggest muck raker makes up some of his own on our dime.

          • MER1978

            A hateful bastard supports Rob Ford… how refreshing.

          • TheSotSays

            A hateful marxist numbskull supports Olivia Chow …. how surprising!

          • MER1978

            Playing the bully/victim card… how Rob Ford of you.

          • TheSotSays

            If you want to see bully/victim you should pull out that Iphone shot of yourself standing imprisoned behind a chain link fence at the G20.

          • TheSotSays

            I’m a Socknaki supporter

          • MER1978

            Sure you are.

          • OgtheDim

            Now there you go again……being a typical populist neo-socialist by bringing up family and death when your boy was smoking crack with the Crips – a gang that deals in destroying families and death everyday. A gang that costs HARD WORKING TAXPAYERS MORE MONEY IN ONE WEEK THEN ANY PENSION THAT CHOW AND SMITHERMAN ARE GETTING.

            Just like a populist neo-socialist to ignore the WASTING of money that’s in front of your face to talk about somebody’s private grief.

          • TheSotSays

            A populist ne0-socialist ????
            Maybe you should pop that into a limerick.

            But talking of wasting money do you realize how much medical money we wasted on NDP Jack when he ran into that newspaper box while riding his bicycle illegally on the side walk.

            Nevertheless, if you ever want to see that box it’s a laugh and a half. I have it “enshrined” in my rec room with a big dent and a scratch in it..

          • OgtheDim

            Now…..there you go again.

            Typical populist neo-socialist completely ignoring the fact that far more people spend more of our HARD EARNED TAXPAYER’S $ on health care through the despicable work of that gang of thugs called the Crips that your fellow populist neo-socialist RoFo REFUSED to rat out then in bicycle accidents.

            Typical – can’t see the waste of your own guy.

          • dsmithhfx

            You misunderstood. I want original material, not the same drivel pasted over and over.


          • TheSotSays

            TEXAS T-O-A-S-T

          • MER1978

            You can spell congratulations.

          • TheSotSays

            Ah, isnt it too bad that only your mommy is likely to give you what you want.

            C-H-O-W = $530,000 blown out the window.

            She’s an NDP joke and she’s done – NEVER AGAIN.

          • OgtheDim

            Some people wonder all their lives if they’ve made a difference.

            Olivia Chow doesn’t have that problem.

          • TheSotSays

            No she doesn’t, you’re right on that one.

            With her questionable dealing at the subsidized housing, her $530,000 a year spending habits, her removal from the Toronto Police Commission, etc. etc. etc., she’s almost single handedly taken the fine political party of J.S. Woodsworth, M.J. Coldwell and Tommy Douglas and turned it into a laughingstock.

          • OgtheDim

            WOOOSH…right over your head that one.

            Typical populist neo-socialist.

            Doesn’t even know a paraphrase when he sees one.

            Even resorts to extolling somebody that just yesterday he was calling a spender and waster of $.

            Yup…that’s you populist neo-socialists.

            No consistency.

          • dsmithhfx

            Why are you afraid of Olivia Chow? Don’t hold back!

          • dsmithhfx

            I think you’ll find it’s the right that’s going to torpedo Rob’s re-election. It’s tough getting law-and-order types to support a known criminal like Rob, who uses hard drugs, drinks and drives, and hangs out with criminals. Heck, he even visits them in jail. Are you a criminal?

          • TheSotSays

            Members of the Marxist NDP Collective are not good at figuring things out and this drivel of yours is a perfect example.

            You see, when Jumper Jack Layton, the Duke of Downtown Toronto, decided to jigger the subsidized housing and take his marriage obligations over to the Velvet Touch, he set the bar so low that it’s impossible for ANYONE to crawl underneath it.

            And a quick look at his bride, The Duchess of Downtown Toronto, with parliamentary expenses in 2009 totalling $530,000, it spells Toast or Pain Grillé no matter how you look at it

            Trying to run Duchess Olivia Chow-Layton in this horse race is as dumb as trying to saddle up Bob Rae.

          • dsmithhfx

            Jack was never under investigation by the police. Jack never refused to meet with the police. Jack never posed for pictures with criminals who were arrested or murdered. Jack was never trailed by police aircraft. Jack’s friends aren’t in jail. See where this is going? See the headline at the top of this page?

            As much as you’d desperately like to change the subject by mass trolling, you are still posting in an article about the mayor’s criminal activities, including drug trafficking.

          • TheSotSays

            Dutchess of Toronto spends $530,000 of taxpayer money on herself

            Late Duke of Toronto spends equal amount.

          • dsmithhfx

            What “Duke” and “Dutchess” [sic]? Oh you probably mean your favourite bêtes noire, Jack Layton and Olivia Chow.

            Oh… you hate that “oh”. Sorry.

            News flash: Jack (who’s dead by the way) and Olivia aren’t royalty, nor is Olivia “Dutch”, as you seem to think. Do try and stay with the tour?

            What they spent as part of their MP expenses are in line with what the other MPs have always spent, and spend now. Former conservative federal Minister of Finance Jim Flaherty (who just resigned) was himself a big spender !

            Layton and Chow didn’t spend it on themselves, these were legitimate expenses associated with representing hundreds of thousands of constituents in Ottawa.

            Don’t like it? Change the law.

            Unlike the unelected Conservative senators appointed by Steven Harper, Mike Duffy, Pamela Walin and Patrick Brazeau, who were investigated by the RCMP for fraud.

            Speaking of police investigations and wasting taxpayers money, how much do you think the police have spent investigating Mayor Ford’s criminal activities?

            If you truly are opposed to wasting taxpayers’ money, you will demand the Fords pay back every single penny they have cost our police and justice system because of the Mayor’s criminality. Mayor Ford thinks it could be millions. They can afford it!

          • TheSotSays

            In 2009 Chow spent $530,000 of taxpayer money on herself. The average MP expenses that year were an outrageous $469,000.

            Chow spent $70,000 more than was spent by the average greedy MP.

            $70,000 was about twice the income of the average Canadian.

            The woman is ridiculous and she’s T-O-A-S-T.

          • OgtheDim

            Now…there you go again.

            Typical populist neo-socialist who refuses, absolutely refuses to discuss the MILLIONS OF TAXPAYERS HARD EARNED $ wasted because his buddy, RoFo preferred to not out his Crips buddies when asked.

          • dsmithhfx

            Olivia frightens you, I get that. What I can’t understand is that she terrifies you though you don’t even live here.

            She doesn’t represent you. Never has, never will, unless you move here. Given your irrational phobia, I just don’t see that as a possibility. Now come out from under the bed. It’s safe, don’t be afraid.

            But seriously: seek help.

          • torontothegreat

            I have been away for a few days. Does this troll happen to live in Woodbridge or Vaughan?

          • torontothegreat

            I only ask because this guy is almost verbatim saying the same b/s as Ralph Cappoci on Twitter, just with more “anonymous” venom.

          • dsmithhfx
          • OgtheDim

            Now ….there you go again.

            Typical populist neo-socialist unable to deal with the question put before you.

            Just like Rob Ford, your hero, who spent one day smoking Crack with the Crips and then when asked by pleading mothers of people killed by gangs like the one he JUST SMOKED CRACK WITH, said it was difficult to figure out who these gangbangers were.

            Earth to populist neo-socialist mayor who inspires TheSotSays -

            When asked a question that might help get a low life busted, if you know the answer, respond.

          • TheSotSays

            Well the NDP police force vice squad can’t arrest him now, he’s dead and his past activities along with his child bride’s outrageous spending habits ($530,000) all spell T-O-A-S-T.

          • OgtheDim

            Well there you go again…..typical populist neo-socialist, who when confronted with the base illegality of his hero, screams NDP NDP NDP like at Jack Layton’s funeral.

          • TheSotSays

            Oh yeah, Jack’s funeral. Another $500,000 hit on the public purse.

            The NDP can’t even bury themselves without crawling all over the taxpayers.

          • OgtheDim

            Now…..there you go again.

            Typical populist neo-socialist ignoring fact based evidence that saves us money to spout off stuff like unicorn emmissions, ferris wheels, subways paid for by the private sector, and ignoring facts like Steven Harper OFFERING a public funeral because it would actually save money on things like policing.

            Typical of you populist neo-socialists to want purity that costs rather then actually saving HARD EARNED TAXPAYERS $.

          • OgtheDim

            Now, there you go again, talking about a dead guy using whacked out stuff that has been discredited, when we got a fine example of a populist neo-socialist who ignores his family to get drunk on a Saturday night, at work, and then spends our HARD EARNED TAXPAYER’s $ on his business associates, cause you “can’t buy loyalty”.

            Well, populist neo-socialist loyalty can be bought – we found out the price – $160K a year for Dave from Scarborough.

            Or was it Dave from “TheSotSays” basement?

  • Dr. Blitz

    Am I the only one who has been consistently impressed with Soknacki’s statesmanlike approach? I realize he doesn’t have a hope of winning, but damn, every time he’s quoted he manages to say just the right, adult thing and without sounding like a PR robot.

    • SonuvaScrimbro

      Which, sadly, means he’s probably not going to go the distance. I wish I had more confidence in my fellow voters, but “appealing to rationality” and “speaking to people like their adults” don’t have great track records in this city. Not lately, anyway.

      • OgtheDim

        Tell me about it.

      • dsmithhfx

        I feel more optimistic about Soknacki’s long-term prospects. I think he is going to add a lot to this race, even if he doesn’t win (as seems likely at this very early stage). He is raising the bar of discourse far above what the other two hollow shells on his side of the spectrum have so far essayed. Maybe they will respond to his challenge. I really hope he sticks with it.

        • spoobnooble

          I donated to Soknacki’s campaign. Even if he doesn’t win, he’s raising the political discourse in this city to a wonderfully adult level. After three and a half years of hurf-durf-taxpayers-pinkos-SUBWAYS-SUBWAYS-SUBWAYS, it’s sorely needed.

  • dsmithhfx

    Sorry, that’s done and over. They weren’t receiving housing subsidies. End of.

    Please, get acquainted with the facts before you open your mouth.

    If you’re just here to smear spread false rumours, thanks, we don’t want any.

  • vampchick21

    And yet there is an entire post that explains why you are so very, very wrong.


  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    You might want to check your facts before libelling a public figure.

  • Guest

    Ancient history. It was well hashed over in the ‘liberal’ media (ha, ha, ha) at the time. Proven false.

    The Ford stuff is breaking news.

    Go smear elsewhere. Thanks!