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Extra, Extra: Olivia Chow’s Bus Plan, Liberal Infighting, and the TTC’s Changing Signs

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  • Mayoral candidate Olivia Chow thinks the TTC should increase service by 10 per cent on its busiest bus routes. This is obviously a shocking transit proposal—in that it involves neither subways nor LRT.
  • Meanwhile, in Olivia Chow’s former riding of Trinity-Spadina…politicians are preparing for the byelection her resignation has brought about. And by “preparing,” we mean “busy fighting amongst themselves”—the riding’s Liberal executive members have condemned Justin Trudeau’s decision to prevent Christine Innes from running. CP24 notes that “Trudeau this week defended the move as necessary to demonstrate that party infighting will no longer be tolerated.”
  • The TTC has been testing out new signage at Yonge and Bloor. Spacing explains why the transit system’s updated approach to wayfinding might be a pretty good thing, and takes us on a tour of the TTC’s signage history along the way.

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  • wklis

    Olivia Chow’s bus plan is basically to reverse Rob Ford 10% service reduction. In other words, to go back to normal.

    • OgtheDim

      Not even sure it gets back to that amount. IIRC, the crush loads were increased by more then she is talking of going back on.

      I’d like to see a specific mention of a reversal of the crush load increase. Until then, we are talking about % taken out of thin air.

    • andrew97

      In fact the Ford plan was to cut $15 million in bus service and raise $30 million from a fare increase. So Chow’s plan is to go about a third of the way back to normal.

    • dsmithhfx

      Who’s promised more?

  • andrew97

    For context, the TTC’s operating budget is about $1.6 billion. Chow is proposing an increase of about 0.9%. Even if you only consider the city’s subsidy of $428 million, it is an increase of only 3.5%.

    I’ve said it before, but seems like Chow’s team cares only cosmetically about transit. I am disappoint.

    • OgtheDim

      Its all a bit….populist…if I might be allowed to say so in this context.

      • TheSotSays

        Tell me this OgDerp, what’s a “populist?”

        • HotDang

          lmgtfy

    • torontothegreat

      I disagree. IMHO, There are 2 main issues with citizens and TTC right now. First, we need investment into a broader system. Secondly we need to immediately repair some of the damage done by Ford and the previous council on the transit file.

      To achieve this, one must have a short-term and a long-term plan. This is going to be difficult to balance for any of the candidates and so far her and Soknacki seems to be the only ones even trying.

      The fact that you’re complaining about an improvement (albeit small) that can be achieved with immediacy (and I expect a few more from her) while a larger system is built and a much larger infrastructure is planned tells me you’re really missing the forest through the trees. Either that, or you’re not really paying attention.

      • dsmithhfx

        Chow put this forward as immediate relief that’s a no-brainer budget wise. Given the paucity of brains on Council, it’s something that could actually be passed.

        • torontothegreat

          That’s why I don’t understand the fake outrage above

  • TheSotSays

    Mayoral candidate Olivia Chow thinks the TTC should increase service by 10 per cent on its busiest bus routes.

    When I came down Spadina Avenue this morning I counted 14 buses cluttering up the street between College and Front.

    She’s baaaaaaack!

    • estta

      Are you saying the service is adequate? Bunching is a pretty big issue. Something that would be less of an issue with LRT, and once the dedicated 510 line is back that should help too.

      • TheSotSays

        The TTC already has too much junk on the road. I think my record count on Spadina was a couple of years ago when I counted 25 buses in sight at one time. At a million bucks a pop, or whatever, for one of those stinking clunkers, it’s a serious matter.

        And Wonder Woman wants to give us another 10%

        • estta

          Uhm, do you take the TTC? If not, would you prefer all the people in that ‘junk on the road’ were also in cars? That would be an incredible amount of traffic.

          • TheSotSays

            Rob Ford wants the City to adopt a long term strategy to put the junk underground. If it can be accomplished it will make everyone happy except the handful of NDP flakes infesting City Council.

          • estta

            So if you consider affordable public transit ‘junk’, what exactly do you think of the thousands of people who rely on it to work?

          • TheSotSays

            The great Henry Mencken referred to them as “the mendicant poor.”

          • DaveWilliamscheemissManana

            He also said “For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong”.

          • TheSotSays

            I’ll bet you can’t give us his definition of a perfect wife.

          • dsmithhfx

            Who cares what “Rob Ford wants”, except maybe his drug dealer?

          • wklis

            Rob Ford doesn’t even take public transit, except on a photo op. If he doesn’t use it, he thinks it should be cut. That’s what happened with the TTC when he started. He cut service. Returning to pre-Ford service is only the first step. To continue to improve the TTC, more has to be done with additional steps. One step at a time.

          • TheSotSays

            Phooey! You have no idea what you’re talking about.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            This “strategy” is nonsense because it means either a subway line where every surface route used to be, or no surface connections to subway lines.

          • TheSotSays

            Oh, I didn’t realize you were planning to put away your little bikey and simply wait for a big piece of junk paid for by the ratepayers to pick you up and carry you down to the corner.

          • mb133

            Ford wants to do this by voting against paying for it. Ford is smoke and mirrors. He campaigns for subways and then campaigns against the taxes to pay for it. He tries to look like he supports both, and ends up achieving neither.

          • TheSotSays

            If you want to see smoke and mirrors you should pop over to the offices of the NDP Central Committee and take a peak into the Jack Layton Memory Room.

        • OgtheDim

          There you go again…….acting like the typical populist neo-socialist that you are and not doing a proper ROI.

          Yup, lets just take away transit and have people use more cars and take up MORE space.

          But then, nobody ever said a populist neo-socialist was business savvy.

          • TheSotSays

            Ah if it isn’t little baby OgDerp. Welcome!

          • nevilleross

            ‘Neo-socialist’? More like ‘neo-fascist’ than anything you said.

          • TheSotSays

            Like all NDP Trotsky sucklers everywhere, he doesn’t know the difference.

          • dsmithhfx

            Rick Salutin compares Andrea Horwath to Thatcher in the Star today. Where’s that leave your fractured fairy tale?

          • TheSotSays

            Rick Salutin and the Star, what a joke. Why don’t you call NDP headquarters and find out what Bugs Bunny thinks about her.

          • dsmithhfx

            It seems you’ve lost the plot.

          • TheSotSays

            It does eh?

          • dsmithhfx

            Oh yes. Time has passed you by, and by that, I mean two or three decades. To be polite, your notions are ‘quaint’, and mostly revolve around self-gratification. But this is delusional, and apparently only you consider it clever.

            You might find today’s Salutin column most edifying, regarding the drift of the NDP under current management, for it has somehow managed to outflank Hudak’s tories on the right.

            Something to ponder, eh?

          • TheSotSays

            Ah yes I’m pondering now to determine how a pretentious feigning fop like yourself would go about using “quaint” in an impolite way.

            Shelley did it once in The Witch of Atlas – “And there lay Visions swift, sweet and quaint.” You’re not some strange creation of the Witch of Atlas are you?

            Nevertheless to put the term “management” in the same sentence as NDP is absurd. And if you’re looking out the train window and seeing the NDP moving right you’re seeing something that differs from objective reality. Any train conductor will tell you it’s an optical illusion.

        • bobloblawbloblawblah

          Is that you, Dave from Scarborough?

          • TheSotSays

            No it’s not!

            My real name is Duchess Olivia Bobloblawbloblawblah Chow and I just moved here from the Chateau Laurier.

        • Squintz

          Was that while they were redoing the tracks and running shuttle busses perhaps?

        • Aporia27

          So then what exactly is your solution? We can’t build subways or even LRT lines everywhere. There is just no money for that. However, there are people that need to get from point A to point B. Should they all drive? One bus can carry as many people as would take at least 20 cars, most likely more.

          • TheSotSays

            Although your big 300 pound NDP kindergarten teacher thinks it’s a good thing, instant gratification is neither possible or affordable.

            It requires long term structural planning without wasting a dime of money filling up needed rights of way with cement that will later have to be torn down. Ford tried to bring reasonable ideas forward but was obstructed by the wacky left so I guess until the voters are able to overcome that, you’ll have to get your lazy butt out of bed earlier and have an easy ride to work. That’s what I usually do.

          • OgtheDim

            Reasonable ideas?!?!

            Well…there you go again, calling a TAX INCREASE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS a reasonable idea.

            No clue.

            None.

            Par for the course for you tax and spend populist neo-socialists.

          • TheSotSays

            Unfortunately OgDerp you’re full of it.

            The world would go exactly nowhere if we all sat around listening to nothing but the badly informed pst pst pst pst pst that goes on over at the NDP/Liberal Party Commissariat.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            He doesn’t have a solution, he’s a troll.

    • Aporia27

      The problem there is bunching, and the solution to bunching is dedicated bus lanes. The problem of overcrowded buses remains a problem – it is not extravagance to call for more service. If you took ANY of the major bus routes in the city regularly you would realize this.

  • mb133

    I would think so. She gets more mileage out of this if she can make Ford, Tory, or Stintz look like an idiot for campaigning to RESTORE bus service. So she is baiting them.

  • TheSotSays

    Well listen Moaz don’t let me hold up your private research.

    Anytime you like, pop over to Spadina and all is well, because you’ll easily find 4 or 5 of your new “Streetcar Trains” in sight at any given time.

    And the nice thing about the streetcars is that they’re fully encased in a private roadway of cement that takes up 1/3 of the entire right of way top to bottom.

    The TTC is in the business of buying JUNK and parking it on the City Streets during rush hour.

  • dsmithhfx

    Everyone ‘supports’ the DRL, no one’s got a plan to pay for it.

    Without a plan, said ‘support’ is transparently an empty motherhood statement.