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Kidnapping, Blackmail, Heroin: A Guide to the Latest Allegations in the Rob Ford Investigation

A timeline of the latest revelations in police documents regarding the mayor.

In a press conference on November 5, Rob Ford tried to put his admission that he had smoked crack behind him, saying whatever it was he did would “never, ever, ever” happen again.

The courts have released the major remaining portions of a 472 page police document connected to investigations into Rob Ford, the video he infamously stars in, and repeated attempts by various parties to obtain it. Here is breakdown of what, exactly, the previously redacted passages from the document contain—

All quotes are from the police document, called an Information to Obtain (ITO), which was used to outline the case against Rob Ford’s friend and occasional driver, Alexander Lisi, and to obtain a search warrant. These recently released portions summarize intercepted phone calls between dozens of people, as well as police interviews with the mayor’s former staffers. None of the details contained here have been tested in court.


The Key Individuals

Siyadin Abdi: charged with gun trafficking and participating in a criminal organization as a result of the Project Traveller investigation.

Elena Basso (aka Princess): one of the residents of 15 Windsor Drive, a home near Rob Ford’s residence which police believe to be a crack house. She has been previously convicted on cocaine trafficking charges.

George Christopoulos: the mayor’s former press secretary. He resigned on May 27.

Mohamed Farah (aka D): referred to in many media reports as the “video broker,” he was acting as a go-between connecting Mohamed Siad to Gawker and the Toronto Star.

Abdullahi Harun: currently facing multiple drug and gun charges in connection with Project Traveller, Harun is a second man believed to have been involved in the efforts to sell the Rob Ford video.

Alexander (Sandro) Lisi (aka Dro): a good friend of the mayor’s, Lisi also served as his unofficial driver. Lisi now faces multiple drug charges and a charge of extortion in connection with alleged attempts to retrieve the Rob Ford video.

David Price: an old friend of Doug Ford’s, Price was hired by the mayor to serve as his director of organization and logistics. As of council’s vote to strip the mayor of much of his budget and reallocate staff to the deputy mayor, Price no longer works at City Hall.

Mohamed Siad (aka Gotti): facing gun and drug trafficking charges in relation to Project Traveller; also an alleged Bloods member. He is the man who showed Gawker and the Toronto Star the Rob Ford video and try to sell it to them.

Liban Siyad (aka Gully): currently facing charges for participating in a criminal organization as a result of Project Traveller, and another one of the people who had access to the video.

Anthony Smith (aka Grenades or Buck): an alleged Dixon City Bloods gang member who was murdered on March 28. Mohamed Siad and Mohamed Farah are both believed to have been friends of his.

Mark Towhey: Rob Ford’s former chief of staff. He was fired—reportedly after asking the mayor to seek help for substance abuse problems—on May 24.


Timeline of Events

MARCH 18
10:16 p.m.: Siyadin Abdi calls Rob Ford’s office. There is no answer, and during police questioning Abdi “has no explanation for this call.” [Information obtained from phone intercepts; p. 88]

MARCH 26
The Toronto Star reports that Rob Ford had been asked to leave a high profile event—the Garrison Ball—a few weeks prior, due to his intoxication.

MARCH 27
1:16 p.m.: Siyadin Abdi calls Mohamed Siad. “Abdi said that their friend (believed to be Mayor Rob Ford) is on TV again. They talked about Ford going to a party and getting kicked out because he was intoxicated. They then discussed plans to sell the tape. Siad said ‘Remember the day he said that in front of me?’ Abdi replied ‘Ya, he said I’ll give you five thousand and a car. What the fuck is that?’ Siad said that he is going to meet him and ask for ’150′ [police believe this means $150,000]. Abdi said the video could be sold to both the Star and the other website. Siad said he preferred going to him [believed to be Rob Ford] personally. Abdi told Siad that would not be wise, as Siad would be putting himself in jeopardy. At the end of the discussion Siad said he does not want to go to the media but he would rather just see him [again believed to be referring to Ford]. He says he’ll ask for 100 or 150.” [Phone intercepts; pp. 363-364]

APRIL 20
12:52 a.m.: Liban Siyad calls 15 Windsor Drive and speaks to a woman “believed to be Elena Basso” and she “stated that Rob Ford was at her residence. She told Siyad to come over and he agreed.” [Phone intercepts; p. 15]

12:54 a.m.: Abdullahi Harun calls Liban Siyad and tells him “to go to [Elena Basso]‘s house because Rob Ford wants some drugs.” [Phone intercepts; p. 15]

2:18 a.m.: Liban Siyad calls Abdullahi Harun. Harun says that “he had Rob Ford smoking on the ‘dugga’. He said he has so much pictures of Rob Ford doing the hezza. ['Dugga' and 'hezza' are slang for marijuana and heroin, respectively.] Siyad told him to take a picture of that because of what it would be worth. Harun says that the picture did not go through.” [Phone intercepts; p. 65]

5:51 a.m.: Liban Siyad calls an unidentified person and speaks to them for nearly 58 minutes. During the course of the conversation “Siyad says that the mayor of the city Rob Ford was smoking his rocks today. Siyad advised that he was at [Elena Basso]‘s house and that he will put a picture up on instagram.” [Phone intercepts; p. 65]

11:37 a.m.: Sandro Lisi calls Liban Siyad and introduced himself as someone who was at Elena Basso’s house the night before. Lisi “accused Siyad and his friend of stealing the mayor’s phone. [Lisi] explained that Rob is freaking out because he needs his phone. Siyad said he would get in touch with his friend and get the phone back. Lisi threatened that if he did not get the phone back that the mayor would put the heat on Dixon.” [Phone intercepts; p. 16]

12:21 p.m.: Sandro Lisi calls Liban Siyad. “Siyad tells Lisi that nobody has his phone and to ask Fab [believed to be Fabio Bassio, also a resident of 15 Windsor Drive]. Lisi advises that he doesn’t care and will see Siyad in a few minutes.” [Phone intercepts; p. 66]

1:01 p.m.: Liban Siyad calls someone only identified as “Juiceman”; they discuss “how to explain how they got that phone.” The phone gets passed to another man who continues speaking with Siyad; that man “tells Siyad to make sure that he makes it clear when he gives the phone back that it’s not because of the cops. Siyad advises that he didn’t like being threatened and that they have a picture of Rob Ford on a pipe. The other male advises that they love and respect Rob Ford but they have Rob Ford on a lot of fucked up situations and they don’t wanna say anything.” [Phone intercepts; pp. 66-67]

1:22 p.m.: Sandro Lisi calls Liban Siyad. Siyad “stated that he has the phone for him. [Lisi] said he will give him some marijuana. They agree to meet at a Country Style Donut shop.” [Phone intercepts; p. 16]

4:02 p.m.: Liban Siyad calls 15 Windsor Drive and speaks to a woman believed to be Elena Basso. “Siyad told Basso that Ford found his phone and he had it back.” [Phone intercepts; p. 16]

5:31 p.m.: Liban Siyad calls an unknown man and speaks to him “about receiving marijuana from Rob Ford’s security guard/driver.” [Phone intercepts; p. 16]

MAY 16
Gawker and the Toronto Star publish articles in which they describe seeing a video of Rob Ford smoking what appears to be crack.

MAY 17
12:47 a.m.: Mohamed Siad calls his younger sister, Najma Siad. “[Mohamed] Siad asks about the phone, advises that it’s in a red pencil case, and says take it out and hold it for him.” [Phone intercepts; p. 62]

Approximately 8 a.m.: David Price is in the vicinity of the mayor’s house to pick him up for an official event—the PFLAG rainbow flag-raising ceremony at City Hall. He receives a call from an unknown man “who advised him he had information about the drug dealers that had this tape. He was given some names and an address of 320 Dixon Road.” [Information obtained interviewing David Price, pp. 31-32]

Approximately 2 p.m.: Price receives a second call; he believes it is from the same man. The caller gives Price phone numbers for two men: ‘Gotti’ and ‘D’ [believed by police to be Mohamed Siad and Mohamed Farah, respectively]. The caller tells Price that the apartment where the video is being kept is “a drug house” and that Gotti and D “do not own the unit but are associated to it…it’s a place where Gotti and D deal drugs out of.” [Price interview; p. 32, 34]

5:33 p.m.: David Price calls Mark Towhey and tells him about these conversation. Price tells Towhey that his informant “said it was Somali drug dealers who had it.” Later in the conversation Price tells Towhey that “the cell phone containing the recording of interest belonged to the deceased (Anthony Smith) and that it was the motive for his murder.” At that point Towhey told Price that he would be calling police to pass this information along, and also “directed Price not to disclose any of the information to the mayor.” [Information obtained interviewing Mark Towhey; pp. 29-30]

Approximately 6:30 p.m.: David Price calls Doug Ford to tell him about his conversations about the video. [Price interview; p. 34]

Unknown time: Rob Ford tells George Christopoulos “that he learned that the video that everyone was talking about, if it existed, might be at the address 320 Dixon Road.” The mayor didn’t tell Christopoulos how he learned this, and Christopoulos passed the information on to Mark Towhey. [Information obtained interviewing George Christopoulos on June 18; p. 46]

The mayor had told Christopoulos that he “had lost his phone back in April or May… He indicated that he lost it when he was in Colonial Samuel Smith’s Park in Etobicoke doing a clean-up… He later mentioned that he got the phone back. It was lost from Saturday until Monday or Tuesday.” [Christopoulos interview; p. 51] Police subsequently note that their intercepts “contradict what Mayor Ford told Christopoulos. [p. 55]

MAY 18
Police interview both David Price and Mark Towhey, who summarize the events of the previous day. During his interview Price tells police that he “feels that Councillor Doug Ford and Mayor Ford are not on speaking terms right now and feels that the mayor does not know this information.” [Price interview; p. 34]

Police further note that during his conversations with the unknown man “Price was not told why [Anthony Smith] was murdered.” It is not clear how Price arrived at that conclusion. [p. 33]

According to police analysis, the theory that Anthony Smith was murdered because of the Rob Ford video “is not correct, based on previous interceptions relevant to the murder of Smith.” Phone intercepts “revealed the murder may have been retaliation for Smith and his associates robbing” another man named Saaid Mohiadan. [p. 30 and p. 14]

MAY 30
Unknown time: A man called Abdinaim Hussein calls Siyadin Abdi. During that call Abdi tells Hussein that he and a man named Ahmed Farah “kidnapped” Mohamed Siad for an hour on the previous morning. Abdi said that they “talked to Siad about ‘the video’. Siad was crying, saying that he destroyed the video and his family is in trouble. Abdi told Siad that if he saw him in Dixon he would kill him.” [p. 86]

7:58 p.m.: Phone intercepts capture a conversation between Ahmed Farah and Siyadin Abdi. “In this call they talk about kidnapping Mohamed Siad.” Also, in that call there is a reference of “Farah talking to Siad about the video of the mayor.” [p. 87]

JUNE 21
Police interview a man named Ahmed Dirie, a friend of Anthony Smith’s who was present when Smith was shot. Dirie is in police custody in connection with the Project Traveller investigation. Via phone intercept police have captured a conversation (date unknown) between Dirie and Abdullai Harun “about how the mayor’s driver [believed to be Sandro Lisi] told him that [Siyad] was ‘halal meat’.” Police believe ‘halal meat’ is slang for ‘dead meat’ or an instruction to kill someone. [p. 79 and p. 14]

Comments

  • Kurblick

    You’ve missed May 21st, the day Abdullai Harun was shot at 320 Dixon Road. You’ve also missed the morning of May 18th when Abdi called the Mayor’s Office.

    • TorontoistEditors

      The first one was previously known, which is why it wasn’t included here. You’re right on the second count, and we’ll add shortly. Thanks for pointing it out!

      • Kurblick

        It would be nice if someone could now put together a comprehensive chronology that includes the Lisi papers and everything else. Fabio Basso was also assaulted on May 21st, the same day Harun was shot. Something tells me that wasn’t a coincidence.

        • TorontoistEditors

          Will be working on one once we catch up on sleep from last night!

          • Robby Breadner

            great work guys. thanks for your efforts.

  • dsmithhfx

    How long will it be before gangs start endorsing municipal politicians?

    Oh.

    • Patrick_Metzger

      This is gonna lose him the Crip vote.

  • dsmithhfx
  • vampchick21

    He’s denying the allegation of offering 5K and a car for the video. Calling it an outright lie. Of course he is. That’s his MO. Which means that he DID offer 5K and a car for the video, because history has clearly demonstrated that if Ford says it’s false, it’s therefore truth.

    • dsmithhfx

      I think he should go whole ‘freeman-on-the-land’, and declare his mom’s basement an ‘embassy’ [rent-free, of course].

  • HotDang

    So is this the end of the line for Rob Ford revelations? I guess more could come out during one of the trials. Hopefully those are going to occur before the election.

    • spicygarage

      The 500-page ITO only contains information the police needed to get a warrant (I believe to search Lisi ‘s parents’ home and car). This means there _may_ be more info / wiretaps. Just because Ford and Lisi were not wiretapped in the context of ITO doesn’t mean they definitely weren’t wiretapped in another context.

    • bobloblawbloblawblah

      He needs to start a new scandal. We’re not being shocked by this one any more.

      • HotDang

        I’d only be shocked at this point if he demonstrated a shred of competence or composure.

    • rich1299

      Ford may still be under police investigation.

  • vampchick21

    Hmmm…so on that US Radio show, Ford stated he doesn’t believe in publicly funded healthcare and that if you want health care you should pay for it. I suppose he’s handing in his OHIP card then?

    • vampchick21

      Seriously, this is bugging me far more than the latest release from the ITO.

    • bobloblawbloblawblah

      “Ford stated he doesn’t believe in publicly funded healthcare”

      Spoken like a spoiled, rich kid who had everything in life handed to him.

      • vampchick21

        What irriates me is not that he doesn’t believe in it, that’s fine. It’s that he continues to benefit from it like all Canadians, via his OHIP card. If you really and truly believe that publicly funded healthcare is a bad idea and you live in a country that has it, opt out, however that’s done, and pay your own way instead of being a clear hypocrite.

        • HotDang

          Is it even legal to opt out? If it were, wouldn’t we have a de facto two-tier system?

          • torontothegreat

            You’d still have to pay the taxes, but you could opt-out of the government paying the bill.

          • dsmithhfx

            I think if you’re a guest worker (without medicare), you can apply for a sales tax refund when you leave/annually. At least it used to be.

          • vampchick21

            You can have it canceled when you move out of province, and the new photo cards expire meaning you need to renew. And I recall many years ago when I had misplaced my red & white card that I had to reschedule a doctors appointment until I found it/replaced it or I would have been charged for the appointment. So you can opt out I think. But I don’t think anyone really does. Because who in their right mind wants to pay medical bills directly?

  • torontothegreat

    Not to nit-pick, but all the media organizations have spelled “Dagga” as “Dugga”

    Dagga is Afrikaans for marijuana, not “Dugga” — It’s the most common word for marijuana in Somalia and I’m fairly certain it isn’t “slang” as also reported.

    • TorontoistEditors

      Can’t speak for others, though this is likely the explanation: everyone is using the spelling the police used in their report. Since it’s a transcription of what they heard, and since we (media) haven’t heard the wiretaps ourselves, it’s the safest way not to inadvertently stray from the record.

      • stoobiedood

        And according to that Great Pooling of Ignorance aka Wikipedia, “The Somali Latin alphabet is largely phonemic, with consonants having a one-to-one correspondence between graphemes and phonemes. Long vowels are written by doubling the vowel. However, the distinction between tense and lax vowels is not represented. Diphthongs are represented using Y or W as the second element (AY, AW, EY, OY and OW) and long diphthongs are shown with the first vowel doubled. As there is no central regulation of the language, there is some variation in orthography, the endings -ay and -ey being particularly interchangeable.

        In other words, Somalis themselves spell it the way it sounds, there is no standard spelling, and good grief, anyone not of Somali origin would transliterate what they heard into “English”-sounding syllables using whatever letters seemed to do the job the best.

        Sheesh. (That’s the letter “X” in Portuguese, according to my language-learning book.)

        The previous revelations from the ITO consistently spelled “surveil” as “surviel” — there is apparently no spelling-bee championship requirement to graduate from cop school.

  • torontothegreat

    @TorontoistEditors:disqus & @Peter MacDonald:disqus Appreciate the reasoning and I understand the possible logic behind the spelling, but calling it slang and not noting (or realizing) it’s Afrikaans origin is just lazy journalism IMHO.

    • Peter MacDonald

      As a person who poured over the dozens of pages of grainy, confusingly written police reports last night can confirm, this article isn’t ‘lazy’. I eventually gave up getting my head around it, because I knew a website like the Torontoist would have someone staying up all night putting together a point by point summary.

      Have you read the released papers? They are strangely capitalized, non OCR’d, heavily redacted, and very repetitive.

      The Torontoist is a news-blog that stayed up all night creating a blow by blow breakdown of the news of the day, and you call that ‘lazy journalism’? I’m thinking you aren’t overly familiar with the modern world of online journalism.

      They have a lot more important things to be doing then spell checking the court documents and reporting on the etymology of terms for weed.

      • torontothegreat

        I have read the released papers. The original states:

        Summary: Harun said that he had Rob FORD smoking on the “dugga”

        Conjecture, by definition is lazy.

        Torontoist is owned by St. Joseph Communications, a company that employs over 2000 people. I would familiarize myself with some of the “online journalism” power brokers, before you wag your finger at me.

        Your defence of Torontoist is admirable as a regular reader and I wasn’t actually that bothered by the wording here. It was general to all media outlets.

        The Post went so far as to say:

        likely a mispelling of the Somali word “dagax,” meaning rocks, used by Somali expats to mean crack cocaine.

        Which is ridiculous if you know how the words sound in each of their native tongues.

        • dsmithhfx

          “Which is ridiculous if you know how the words sound in each of their native tongues.”

          How would a non-Somali speaker know that?

          • torontothegreat

            They wouldn’t, hence the complaint about conjecture :P

        • Peter MacDonald

          Generic kvetching on breathless reporting done by media writ large? I can get behind.

          Also, I didn’t know Torontoist’s corporate overlords were so large. Thanks for the update!

          • TorontoistEditors

            For the record! That is the number not for St. Joseph Media but St. Joseph Communications, which also includes things like a large commercial printing operation. (Apparently there is a large studio somewhere for things like shooting catalogue items—that sort of thing.)

            Torontoist has precisely 1.75 full time employees.

        • vampchick21

          these are transcripts of wiretaps, we don’t know how clear the connection was or the recording, how much, if any, of an accent the speaker had, for all we know it sounded just like ‘drugga’, rather than what the actual word might have been in Afrikaans or Somali. It could very well have been heard by the officer doing the listening/transcribing as ‘drugga’. It’s also highly unlikely that the officer(s) listening and transcribing actually know Afrikaans or Somali and would have recognized it as a word in that language.

          My husband is from Latin America and speaks Spanish as a first language. He’s teaching me and believe me, how the English language brain sometimes hears and interprates non-English words in a language the listener is either unfamiliar with or in the early phase of learning is very, very funny. I’ve heard and said carrico instead of que rico, I’ve had him pronounce words and sentences slowly and delberately to me so I can pick out the parts and still have come up with close but no cigar.

          TLDR; I doubt the officers speak or understand Afrikaans or Somali to know if drugga is a misunderstanding of a similar word in either language being used to covertly describe illegal drugs. Especially since drugga works just fine in that context.

          • torontothegreat

            It’s “Dagga” not “DRugga”

            The conjecture was added by the media. I don’t see what the police have to do with this.

          • vampchick21

            Because the police are the ones that set the wiretaps, listened, transcribed and typed up the ITO that was submitted to the courts and subsequently released to the media and public in three steps.

            dRugga is my typo.

          • torontothegreat

            You understand what I mean when I say the media “added the conjecture” right?

          • vampchick21

            Lemme try again….I’m battling a bit of a headache today. :)

            The media has no choice but to conjecture. All they have is what was released in written form in the ITO. They have not actually heard the wiretaps, only read the transcribed portions put in the ITO. Hence, the media does not know the actual word used. So it’s either an actual word in Afrikaans or Somali or even in Arabic that was mis-heard/mis-transcribed, or it’s an actual slang word based on a word in one of those languages that has not entered the mainstream. I’d also guess that very few journalists have a strong working knowledge of Afrikaans or Somali.

            They have a word that is not in usual parlance, slang or otherwise. They have the context in which the word is used. They have the ethic and cultural associations of the person using the word and the person hearing the word. They have the spelling of that word as put forth by a transcribing officer. They have readers who are going to say “wtf?”.

          • torontothegreat

            “The media has no choice but to conjecture”

            A direct quote would suffice. Failing that, a google search may also come in handy – http://lmgtfy.com/?q=afrikaans+weed

          • vampchick21

            They did give a direct quote in the reports I read. They directly quoted the ITO. The guy said dugga as the transcribing officer heard. The journalists went to Somali language to try to guess what this word could be/mean in the context used.

            I think given everything in the ITO you’re making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill. Whatever the actual word is, it is being used in the context of drug use/purchase. Regardless of the root or the language.

          • torontothegreat
          • vampchick21

            gee, thanks ever so much.

          • dsmithhfx

            You know, you could have just posted the correct Somali words as you know them, instead of lashing out at all and sundry for failing to… um, whatever they are supposed to have failed at. Or, you could start your own news blog and show everyone how it’s done.

          • torontothegreat
          • dsmithhfx

            OK, you couldn’t.

          • vampchick21

            So what exactly are we supposed to get that we aren’t? Please remember to use small, easy to understand words since it is clear we are all so stupid we can barely use the computer.

          • dsmithhfx

            I’m going to try posting a picture. Hang on…

          • torontothegreat

            Anyways, I hate to retract from this story. Agree to disagree?

          • dsmithhfx

            OMG it’s easy!

  • bobloblawbloblawblah

    “So he did a bit of crack? So what? So he drove drunk? Who doesn’t? He’s saving the city a billion zillion dollars!”

    That’s pretty much it. What’s really remarkable is the article in the Star asking where is the anger from other civic leaders at Ford’s behaviour. There’s a lot of people complicit in this thing — all those business leaders and politicians who wanted a “fiscal conservative” agenda at City Hall and were willing to look the other way for so long because Ford was their front man. It isn’t just Ford Nayshun whose behaviour has been mind boggling. Ford has been treated with kid gloves for a long time.

    • OgtheDim

      There have been a lot of people on the right who have not been happy with him for years. He got support at the end of the summer of 2010, mostly because by August, his election was inevitable and people thought they could maneuvere him.

      But, lets be honest, did ANYBODY think he did Crack until this year?

      • dsmithhfx

        Did anybody NOT know he was a belligerent public drunk, the village idiot of Council, on the lunatic fringe of Canadian politics, and a serial liar?

        • OgtheDim

          Not the voters.

          • Jacob

            Lots of people predicted this. Not the specifics, but the general clown show.

          • rich1299

            Maybe not voters who don’t pay attention to what’s happening at city hall and don’t read/watch/listen to the news but it was very obvious to anyone who did. His ACC drunken stupor was fairly big news for a while there and hard to avoid. His general buffoonery, anti-social politics, and chronic lying at city council were well reported on during the ten years he was a councillor but it would’ve required a slight effort by citizens to have known. So now we have mayor Rob Ford, Toronto’s gift to comedians.

            Lots of people predicted this outcome if not the details. One columnist, I’m blanking on which one right now, predicted one or more councillors would be injured by Rob Ford. Outgoing city councillors before the election said if Ford became mayor the rest of city council would just work around him as if he didn’t exist. What people didn’t predict is that it would take so long or so much for city council to do so. Chronic liars don’t stop telling lies, idiots don’t get much brighter, ragers don’t start negotiating.

            But I agree the crack use, the alleged heroin use, and the organized crime associations were next to impossible to predict unlike his drinking and over-all erratic disgraceful behaviour. But his drug use and criminal buddies are among the least of the problems his mayoralty suffers from. The problems for the city from Ford being mayor were easily predictable long before he was elected. I was going to say before the election campaign but I’m not sure anyone ever thought clown concillor Rob Ford would even consider running for mayor.

  • Casey Boudreau

    This has got HBO written all over it.

  • rich1299

    What I really want to know now is exactly why was the guy who murdered
    Anthony Smith allowed to plea to manslaughter and why did all the
    evidence in that case remained sealed?

    Apparently its extremely rare for
    evidence against someone to not be disclosed when they plea
    the same as it would’ve been revealed during a trial if they didn’t
    plea. A plea deal doesn’t mean your criminal behaviour remains secret, at least not normally.

    If there wasn’t evidence in that case
    that somehow tied Ford or someone close to him to the murder that needed
    to be covered up to protect an ongoing investigation then why was that
    evidence covered up?

    The police are now saying there was no
    connection between the crack video and Ford so why weren’t the details
    of the the murderer’s crimes put on the public record?

    Why was he allowed to plea to manslaughter if it was in fact a revenge killing which is premeditated first degree murder by definition?

    If
    it was just to keep the existence of Rob Ford’s crack video out of the
    public eye then that’s an outrage and those involved, including the judge,
    should be facing some very stiff and very public penalties for doing so.

    So far there is no evidence at all it was done for the protection of an ongoing investigation so we
    really need to know why there was so much secrecy for a murderer.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    Why hasn’t he been arrested yet? Or the very least dragged in for questioning?

    • dsmithhfx

      I’m starting to think it’s time for the OPP to step up to the plate, and include inaction by the TPS in the scope of their investigation. Something deffo doesn’t smell right.

      • tyrannosaurus_rek

        It probably should have gone to the OPP from the start, given the influence the mayor’s position has on things like police budgets.

        • dsmithhfx

          Dougie certainly seems to have put the fright in Bill Blair.