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Renderings of Massive New Waterfront Development Released

Developers Tridel and Hines have released new details about Bayside Toronto, a neighbourhood planned for Toronto's waterfront.

For years, Waterfront Toronto has been touting its redevelopment plans for an ex-industrial section of the Lake Ontario shoreline it calls East Bayfront, between Jarvis and Parliament Streets. Now, here’s a glimpse of what the future holds for the district, courtesy of some of the developers that plan to build condos there.

Earlier today, Toronto developer Tridel and U.S. real-estate firm Hines announced the first residential phase of Bayside Toronto, a 13-acre development that, if all goes as planned, will span the area between Sherbourne Common park and the Parliament Street slip, south of Queens Quay East.

The first condo planned as part of the redevelopment will be a 13-storey, 363-unit condo tower called Aqualina. You can see a rendering of its planned exterior if you click through the image gallery, above. Tridel intends to build the place so that it qualifies for LEED Platinum designation, which is the highest level of environmental certification offered by the U.S. Green Building Council.

The developers say that the finished development, a rendering of which you can see above, will include more than 2 million square feet of residential and commercial space, with 1900 residential units. The whole project is expected to cost $1.1 billion, and to take a decade to build.

The new condos and offices will join a few other waterfront pioneers that have already set up shop on former industrial land in the district, including George Brown College and Corus Entertainment.

Despite all this, the area is plagued by spotty public transit (the City is exploring options for funding a chronically delayed effort to build East Bayfront a streetcar line, but in the meantime the 6 Bay bus is the only viable connection to Union Station) meaning this supposedly environmentally friendly development may end up playing host to more than its share of new cars.

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  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    How many of these 1,900 residential units will be affordable housing or suitable for a family of four?

    • vampchick21

      Good question. We need more of both in this city. In addition, I’m wondering how much public space will be in that area as well or will it all be private?

      • Rico_Featherbutt

        Plenty in Scarborough, and way up North, and in Mississauga/Etobicoke.

        • vampchick21

          I don’t want to live in those areas.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            Nobody cares what you want. You want something, then pay for it.

          • vampchick21

            Yeah dude you totally didn’t pay any attention to what I’m actually saying, but that’s par for the course for you. Go find someone else to annoy. I plain don’t give a fuck.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            “We need more of both in this city” and “I don’t want to live in those areas”. Not really captivating and complex conversation. How about living where you can afford. You want communism, go live in North Korea. You whiners are always annoying.

          • vampchick21

            Oh shut up you pretentious, pompous Douchebag. Take your superiority complex elsewhere.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            Sounds like you’re already elsewhere. That’s why you want to live for free on the Waterfront on someone else’s bill.

          • Brock

            Relax a bit, this is supposed to a friendly conversation.

          • Brock

            She is the type of person who throws a party, but asks others to supply the food.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            Cash bar at the wedding

          • Brock

            More likely potluck at the reception

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            $11 tickets at the door

          • Zoom Slider

            So you and Rico are all “if you want something you must pay for it”, unless you go to somebody’s wedding, then you expect to be showered in free food and booze on somebody else’s dime?

          • Zoom Slider

            Yeah, poor people shouldn’t have parties.

          • Brock

            There is a difference between poor and cheap. It is clear where she stands.

          • Brock

            You could not afford it anyhow.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            Stop harassing people.

          • Brock

            What are attempting to imply?

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            I “are” not attempting to imply anything, I’m straight-up telling you to stop harassing commenters. It was unwelcome from your previous persona, it’s unwelcome from your current persona, and it will be unwelcome from your next.

          • Brock

            You really need some help.

    • Brock

      Lakefront property is for those who earned it.

      • Rico_Featherbutt

        Exactly.

    • Rico_Featherbutt

      Ya because we want downtown waterfront to go to “affordable housing”. We have plenty of affordable housing downtown. We just invested how much into the Regent Park redo? Why does everybody want a bloody freebie, then whine about the location? Affordable housing should never be on top real estate. Oh I know, go live at Jane & Finch.

      • tyrannosaurus_rek

        I asked how many units would be affordable, not why the entire development isn’t an affordable housing complex. There is a chronic shortage of affordable housing in this city – yes, even after Regent Park got fixed up – and it’s in the city’s best interest to incorporate affordable housing into every available new development.

        Relegating those who haven’t “earned” a decent location to ghettos is a brilliant idea. You should run for office with that as your platform.

        • Rico_Featherbutt

          Actually, there is no chronic shortage of affordable housing. The market dictates all. The shortage is in reasonable people, as people who want to work at Subway, want to rent downtown penthouse apartments for $300 a month, because they feel entitled. There is plenty of downtown real estate given away to people that do very little for the economy of the City.

          The only reason the NDP get any votes is because their platform is “free everything, because it comes from corporations”. Ya, over-tax companies that actually employ the people of this City. Great strategy.

          Go start a company and get your head out of freebie politics.

          • dsmithhfx

            Remind me of your own, illustrious achievements. Gwan, you know you’re just dying to.

            Let me start the list for you:
            1. Billionaire troll.
            2. Incredibly successful, yet apparently bored.
            3. Glued to a computer for hours on end, castigating those less fortunate shiftless indigents.

            Please continue!

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            LOL pretty close. I’m on a computer because…I have a job. Might want to try that one.

          • Zoom Slider

            You’re goofing off on Torontoist while you’re at work?

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            I own my company. You’re goofing off while looking for employment?

          • Zoom Slider

            I suppose that is the only logical conclusion that could possibly be drawn from that.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            Either you are at work or you are not. If you are at work, then you are doing exactly what you accused me of. Ironic. If you are not at work, then…you are not at work. Maybe that’s one of those achievements.

          • Brock

            The leftists are all the same, maybe he will be asking (begging) you for employment soon. But make sure it is a minimum $75,000 and a car or you might lose that solcial skimmer.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            Asking or begging? More like “demanding”, much like the tone of the comments in here. “We need more of what I want, which is ‘everything for free, on my terms’”. Bunch of entitled whiners living off other people’s capabilities.

          • dsmithhfx

            You own you’re own company, which clearly does not need you to do anything productive… you must be Rob Ford!

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            Newsflash: I have to pay taxes you obviously do not. You must be Rob Ford’s crack dealer. I’ve accomplished more today than you will all week. Get a job.

          • dsmithhfx

            “You must be Rob Ford’s crack dealer.”

            Ooh, now we’re getting somewhere…

          • Brock

            No one would hire him. Thank god for social assistance for allowing him internet access or his unless comments would never be heard.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            I thought they had a time limit at gaming computers. Or did we spend more tax on the “have-not” fund this year? More tax well spent.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            The Deputy City Manager disagrees with you. The Ontario Non-Profit Housing Association disagrees with you. The Wellesley Institute disagrees with you. The Canadian Policy Research Network disagrees with you. Queen’s University school of urban and regional planning disagrees with you. The Conference Board of Canada disagrees with you. No mainstream media hesitates to call it as a shortage, or even a crisis, so they disagree with you too.

            And with good cause: The availability of affordable housing has more to do with vacancy rates in rental properties than the right-wing myth that anyone making less than six figures is a lazy bum who wants everything for nothing – especially the handicapped and elderly.

            Even the fucking Sun acknowledges there is an
            affordable housing shortage (and blames the government for it, of course).

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            What a list of swivel servants. Obviously they’re right because…they’re employed by government. They are the ultimate voice in all this, right? That’s why a private enterprise in this article has invested in the Waterfront. What happened? Were all of your references not consulted? Or did money save the day as usual?

            Now, to reiterate my point, you don’t fill prime real estate with handouts. A lot of downtown has been given away

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. The only civil servant on that list is the deputy city manager. And, again, I didn’t suggest “filling” the development with affordable units.

            When you’re up to speed with the actual discussion at hand we can resume.

          • Brock

            What are you suggesting exactly? It seems you want private enterprise to finance discounted housing and on your terms. That my friend is how investment leaves the city, province, country.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            You obviously cannot recognize private enterprise. When you actually step into reality, then that is the time you should be making comments.

          • dsmithhfx

            What is ‘enterprising’ about what you do, exactly?

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            None of your frickin business.

          • dsmithhfx

            Is it legal?

          • OgtheDim

            Troll.

          • dsmithhfx

            Go ahead.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            Would I be paying tax on illegal business?

          • Brock

            He is doing his best attempt at 20 questions, don’t feed him and he will go away.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            He hasn’t landed a single one yet. Anyway I have things to do. Earn more tax. Sigh.

          • dsmithhfx

            You better be.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            You better be in your brown paper hat.

          • dsmithhfx

            Wow, that was fast. How much did you “earn” ?

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            More than you will all this year and next year put together. Bye

          • dsmithhfx

            You bought a winning lottery ticket?

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            Here in Ontario, that means landing a government job. No work for the rest of life, and a cheque every week.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            You obviously can’t carry on a conversation without wilfully misrepresenting what others say and mean, or holding back on pointless insults.

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            You don’t know what you’re talking about. Go hump your hat.

          • dsmithhfx

            Do you get bathroom breaks at Campaign Research? Cause you seem sort of tense.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            Quod erat demonstrandum.

  • Fen

    Neighborhood, huh? It looks like another condo ghetto to me.

  • dsmithhfx

    Great. Another sprawling, glass shoebox wedding cake, with about as much character as a shopping mall. No thanks.

    • Rico_Featherbutt

      Then buy the land and pay for free housing for starving people from elsewhere.

      • dsmithhfx

        Huh? I’m talking about lousy architecture being foisted on the city by greedy developers with no vision, no taste, and no class. Do you think that’s a good thing?

        • Rico_Featherbutt

          Huh? Foisted on the city? You really don’t have to look at it. Quite simply put, money rules in this town. If you see this being unfit, then purchase it yourself, so that other people can whine about your design. Good or otherwise, it’s happening. They’re not going to double their investment to make you happy.

        • Brock

          The vision seems quite clear. What is lacking class about their layout?

          • dsmithhfx

            Your endorsement kind of seals it.

          • Brock

            Back to the slum for you then. Why no negative at others success?

          • Rico_Featherbutt

            LOL so let me get this straight. You want some world class building to be installed on the taxpayer’s dime, in order to offer “affordable housing” for more freeloaders. Riiiight.

          • dsmithhfx

            Psst! Come on out back coach, we’re passing the pipe. 8-/

  • Torontopoly

    I’m not a big fan of this. It’s taking up even more waterfront we don’t have to spare for more private development. On the other hand, at least the proposal looks like it has a lot more mid-rise development which is much needed in this city. It would be better if it was along existing North-South corridors though, which seem to lack a lot of character.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Walter-Lis/571716919 Walter Lis

    Is the Queens Quay streetcar right-of-way still there in the plans, or did Rob Ford’s anti-transit vision take over?

    • Steve Munro

      It is still in the plans. The fight now is to get it built, even if we only get the street-level stuff (east from Freeland to Parliament) done in a first phase and do the tunnel connection later. If QQ East is rebuilt without the right-of-way, the whole idea is toast.

      • SmarterThanYou86

        I thought I read the other day – that it was scrapped and this was coming as news to Andy Byford as well… whatever the case may be, the waterfront is going to need transit infrastructure soon, like yesterday soon…

  • Brian

    Yuck. It looks like Tridel architecture. After viewing the adjacent images of Gehry’s towers for King St. the mediocrity in these designs is depressing.

  • Brock

    It is good that companies are investing in the city. It took David Miller leaving for this to even be seriously considered.

    • Steveinto

      David Miller started the ball rolling on waterfront development, something that was stagnate or moving extremely slow and largely controlled by private interests. If Rob Ford has his way it will come to a stop, the money is almost gone. Back to private interests.

    • tyrannosaurus_rek

      You’re repeating (and exposing) yourself, Dave Williams. You used the same phrases in the radio recap thread.

    • Torontopoly

      One of the biggest reasons there has been so much development in this city is David Miller’s policies on development costs/taxes. He made it a very attractive market to invest in and the boom followed.

    • dsmithhfx

      And isn’t amazing how all the developers and speculators stepped up when Rob Ford asked them to pay for new subways!

      Oh.