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Duly Quoted: CUPE Local 79 President Tim Maguire

“Our members are front-line community workers in a city that’s already struggling under a social infrastructure deficit. We are worried that the social impacts of a casino could overwhelm Toronto’s already strained social support system.”

—Maguire, who heads the union that about 20,000 of the City’s indoor employees belong to, issued a press release this morning in which he’s quoted as saying the above. Many of CUPE Local 79′s workers are involved in different aspects of social services (including public health and childcare), so it’s not far-fetched that some of them would have strong opinions on this issue. The press release says the union polled its members and found that 67 per cent of those who responded opposed a casino. Local 79 says it will be supporting No Casino Toronto.

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  • andrew97

    But here is the quote of the day, surely:

    *vomiting sound* — Mayor Rob Ford, reacting to transit revenue proposals

    • Winkee

      I was expecting to see that too. Rob Ford making childish ear plugging look like a mature response…

      • SteveKupferman

        Unfortunately, that came along about an hour too late for me to use. It’s amazing, for sure.

    • vampchick21

      That was just about the most immature thing he’s managed to do yet.

    • Dinah Might

      Wow, despite everything I thought you were kidding until I checked the link.

      *argh*

  • IJustGotToBeMe

    A casino will be built. If you all don’t like it I suggest you move.

    • Winkee

      Why don’t the casino “supporters” (I’ve never met one so I’m still skeptical it’s not just some AstroTurf invention) just move to a jurisdiction that already has a casino if they want one in their city so badly?

      • HotDang

        Because that place has already been destroyed by terrible ideas. There is still work to do here.

      • IJustGotToBeMe

        Actually, I couldn’t care less. I live north of Bobcaygeon. But I just can’t see why a casino would hurt. Toronto has great sporting events, world class entertainment and restaurants etc. We have the Pan Ams coming. I just see more postive’s to it rather than taxing the hell out of everything that moves.

        • Winkee

          So you’re not a resident, you don’t “actually care” and you’re posting the false dichotomy of casino vs taxing the hell out of people? I believe that speaks for itself, my work here is done.

          • IJustGotToBeMe

            You would be correct. I moved two years ago. But I still rent a home in North York. I still pay taxes. I lived in TO for almost 50 years.

          • Winkee

            Without a casino? How did you ever do it? Your tax burden must have been immense.

          • IJustGotToBeMe

            Nice. Another from the left that stomps up and down like a little child when they don’t get their way.

          • vampchick21

            Someone doesn’t grasp sarcasm.

          • IJustGotToBeMe

            Oh yes I do

          • vampchick21

            Coulda fooled, well….everyone.

          • IJustGotToBeMe

            Tag team all you want sweetie. Doesn’t bother me in the least.

          • Winkee

            Umm pot meet kettle…
            “A casino will be built. If you all don’t like it I suggest you move.”

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            If only North York were on the short list of casino locations…

          • CaligulaJones

            It would be interesting to know how many CUPE members also aren’t residents and actually “don’t care” (67% of responding members? How many responded?).

    • mark_dowling

      The people in this city voted in a referendum that there would be no casino. An actual referendum not the “right sort of person” in a Tim Hortons queue in Etobicoke. If you think a casino is the right thing, write to the Mayor and Premier and tell them there should be a referendum to see if the people want to change their mind.

      • CaligulaJones

        “The people in this city voted in a referendum that there would be no casino.”

        When?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=28110435 Kate Roberts

          The last time one was proposed in Toronto in the 1990′s

        • mark_dowling

          1997.

          • CaligulaJones

            So, nothing from this century then?

          • mark_dowling

            So that’s going to be the ploy? A referendum every week until we agree, but a yes vote lasts forever?

          • CaligulaJones

            There were 9 different questions asked in the different cities (and borough) in 1997.

            Do you really think it a “ploy” to wonder if perhaps it is better to ask ONE question, city-wide, today? Are you not disenfranchising the hundreds of thousands of new Torontonians, or do you presume to speak for them?

            How about a referendum on any new “revenue enhancements”, then? No?

            Using your logic, we should just use Mike Harris’ election from about the same time period as the 1997 referenda as a “no new taxes” policy.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            Can we abolish all democratic action from before 2001, or just referenda?

          • CaligulaJones

            Do you honestly believe that all democratic actions are without expiry dates?

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            Your expiration date is rather arbitrary. Haven’t we all be disenfranchised by laws put on the books over a century ago?

          • CaligulaJones

            Only when you confuse non-binding referenda with laws.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            Now who’s being naïve? Laws can be changed, and many on the books are so irrelevant to modern circumstances they can accurately be described as “expired”.

          • CaligulaJones

            Oh, indeed. Let’s hope that our American cousins will send their “marriage is between a man and woman” irrelevant law to the dustbin of history very soon.

            But where exactly am I being naïve? The 1997 “no” vote didn’t change anything. It isn’t a law, can’t be used as such. I was pointing out its irrelevance, partly due to its date, partly due to the fact it was held for an entirely different purpose (ironically, the end of bingo money for the same religious groups now against the casinos).

            A new, specifically-written referendum? A whole different discussion.

            Hey, I wonder if the people in the ridings were the Liberals are now stuffing those natural gas plants can just vote “no” to them…or is the fact that the “no” votes for wind turbines about as effective a bit of a non-starter there?