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  • Fresh off denying that he grabbed a woman’s ass, Mayor Rob Ford may now need to assure the public that he doesn’t do coke. That’s because of something his accuser, one-time mayoral candidate Sarah Thomson, said this morning on KiSS 92.5.
  • Toronto Life‘s profile of MP Oliva Chow, “mayor in waiting,” is now online, if you’d like to spend 15 minutes or so daydreaming about what life would be like if city hall were run by someone else. The next mayoral campaign should be getting underway about nine months from now.
  • Now that Toronto has edged out Chicago as North America’s fourth-largest city by population, the Post has some suggestions for new tourism posters and slogans. We’re partial to “The Honourable Mention of Cities.”
  • Kensington Market is apparently getting a brewery in place of that weird theatre space whose entire facade is covered in alien-themed van art. Seems like a fair trade.

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  • http://twitter.com/kvonbling Kevin Wilson

    Silly Bear! I coulda sworn the Mayoral campaign has been in full swing for months now…

  • Brandon Leal

    Someone needs to put a cork in Sarah Thompson. She has no evidence thus far and is continuing to make more baseless remarks about Mr. Ford. This is the grounds of a defamation lawsuit in the making.

    She is ruining whatever image she had for herself and would do well to let the police decide if there was any wrong doing done instead of running to the media first and the cops never.

    Why attack the man himself when his ideas are so much sillier?

    As a disclaimer I’m not a supporter of Rob Ford, I just think that she has crossed the line and needs to just move on now.

    • dsmithhfx

      Your post is wrong on so many levels, I can’t help but think it is part of the orchestrated campaign to discredit Rob’s latest accuser as (among other things) crazy, disgusting, conniving, even for her hairstyle. Yet as she herself said, Rob Ford does have a history of lying about his numerous past, equally “colorful” transgressions. That’s a matter of public record, not conjecture. It is Rob’s image that’s at stake among his own faithful here — he apparently cares for little else, and that explains the ferocity of their attacks on Sarah Thompson. From tax-cutting, football coaching hero and man of the people, to this. As for a so-called police investigation: Rob Ford is the TPS’ meal ticket. They know it, and he knows it. Sarah Thompson is doing the right thing, and I hope she sticks to her guns.

      • IJustGotToBeMe

        Nice to see there are still fucking idiots like yourself out there.

        • dsmithhfx

          Great comment! Did you think of it all by yourself?

          • IJustGotToBeMe

            No. Sarah helped me when she was finished over at CAMH.

      • Brandon Leal

        You miss my entire point. I have nothing against either Ford or Thompson.

        However you cannot accuse people of doing horrible things without evidence or corroborating stories and then not seek the assistance of the police to to investigate a possible horrible crime.

        If she feels so strongly that Mr Ford assaulted her then she should go to the police. If she does not go to the police she is defaming his person without evidence or reasonable suspicion that in this instance a crime was committed. That is illegal, and a defamation libel lawsuit, much lake that of the beach restaurant, could be levied against Thompson.

        If he did something wrong take him to court and lock him up. If she has no evidence then she should stop for her own good to avoid a lawsuit.

        Sarah Thompson is by no means crazy or by no means lesser because of her hair or whatever you think I’m attacking. However she must have evidence to support her claim.

        People are infuriated when councillors and the mayor argue baseless claims. I fail to see how you could logically argue this is any different.

        • Eric S. Smith

          “If she feels so strongly that Mr Ford assaulted her then she should go
          to the police.”

          At which point you’ll complain that she’s wasting police resources, so get stuffed.

          “If she does not go to the police she is defaming his
          person without evidence or reasonable suspicion that in this instance a
          crime was committed.”

          Bullshit. That does not follow. You’re just throwing together what you hope are impressive phrases. You’d have us believe that no event is real until it is reported to the police.

          • Brandon Leal

            I would not complain about police resource use. Don’t put words in my mouth.

            Secondly, no. I am of the belief that if there is no evidence to support a claim then it should not be trumpeted as being true. I am calling on her to engage the police and present her evidence so that the due process of law will be able to determine if a crime was committed.

            Its not My objective to make big sentences to intimidate people or to mislead. I’m articulating my point. Just blasting someone eelse’s ideas and calling then bullshit doesnt make for a respectable rational debate

            Cheers

          • Eric S. Smith

            “… if there is no evidence to support a claim then it should not be trumpeted as being true. I am calling on her to engage the police and present her evidence…”

            You repeat your doubletalk. She has no evidence, so she should submit her evidence that she does not have to the police. Rubbish.

    • tyrannosaurus_rek

      I’m confused, do you want her to go to the police or do you want her to “just move on”?

      • Brandon Leal

        If she wants to continue this public shaming then she should take it to the police. If she doesn’t take this to the police and continues her public shaming campaign then she is defaming his person without facts and that is grounds for a defamation lawsuit.

        It is in her best interest to contact the police to properly investigate this or to stop speaking publicly about this.

        You can’t go around accusing people of doing horrible things without any evidence or corroborated stories. Its like me accusing you of stealing my TV from me when I have no evidence and don’t plan to engage the police to investigate.

        • arcticredriver

          Cast your mind back, about a year. Ford and his staff were playing hookey from his day job, and coaching his football team. It was an away game, and, when the game ended early, before the buses were scheduled to take the team home, Ford made calls, and the Police diverted several TTC buses, on an emergency basis.

          This was during rush hour. The Police told TTC patrons to get off the bus, even though it was raining. They were told it was an emergency.

          Of course it was not an emergency. The Police lacked the backbone and independence to say, ‘sorry Mr Mayor, your team getting rained on is not an emergency, and we won’t commandeer public buses on an emergency basis, to get your team out of the rain.’

          Given the Police’s clear failure I suggest it is understandable that Ms Thompson is not comfortable keeping the discrete silence you recommend.

    • HarryBongers

      The last thing robbie wants is to go in front of the court and have his reputation examined. In a defamation suit everything is fair game and he will be challenged mercilessly on his abundant past transgressions.

      • Brandon Leal

        Are you proposing someone, Ford for example, not seek legal retribution for demfamation because of past indiscretions? That presupposes a bias in the courts to largely perceive his past indiscretions as overly important in the case and it assumes an unfair justice system.

        Correct me if I’m wrong.

        • HarryBongers

          Well in the case of a defamation suit his past indiscretions would be taken into account since it goes to character. I was speaking from a more personal angle though. I doubt Ford wants his previous displays of drunkenness, lying, etc…to be brought up and scrutinized again.

          • Brandon Leal

            If you care of the opinion that Ford has many indiscretions and that in some capacity defines party of his character, then I would suppose that Ford would have little inhibitions about seeking a lawsuit for defamation because he is already so accustomed to being exposed and criticized for his actions.

            Of course this is all conjecture and none if us really know what goes in in his mind aside from himself.

          • HarryBongers

            I’m not entirely sure even robbie knows what is going on inside his head at times.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Walter-Lis/571716919 Walter Lis

    Rob Ford uses Coke? No, can’t be. He uses Pepsi, maybe Diet Pepsi, but definitely not Coke!

    Sorry, couldn’t resist.

  • Jack

    Wonder if this latest charge will make either of the two local dailys that have been sitting on Ford investigations print what they’ve got…

    • HarryBongers

      I remember rumours of a globe bombshell that never materialized but which is the other daily that is also sitting on something? What are they waiting for to release the info? I would have assumed right after his COI case would have been the perfect time.

      • tyrannosaurus_rek

        I’d hope they’re waiting for the next election to be called first, so it’s fresh in the minds of voters.

        • HarryBongers

          Possibly but sitting on a bombshell story for well over a year is a very long time. Particularly since it is an absolute certainty robbie will manage to stumble into many more embarrassing situations between now and then.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            If the rumours are true, they’ve been sitting on this story for months – half a year? – already.

          • HarryBongers

            Wolf Dinnick of Open Source made the claim on the CBC at the beginning of December that the globe was sitting on a bombshell. What is the other paper allegedly sitting on something as well? I’ve not heard anything about that.

  • CaligulaJones

    From the little knowledge I have of cocaine (no, not from The Google, this is from real life), the evidence of cocaine use is weight loss and bizarre decisions, such as a middle-aged business woman with dreadlocks. Does Ms. Thompson really want to fight this fight looking as she does?

    • torontothegreat

      There is a difference between using cocaine and being a f’n crackhead.

      Chris Farley. ‘Nuff said.

      • CaligulaJones

        Or John Belushi for that matter. Exceptions don’t prove the rule, though. Most waistoids are rather on the skinny side, no matter their vice, unless its food.

        Just sayin’.

        • torontothegreat

          Again, crackhead vs casual user, apples and oranges. Casual users won’t get skinny just by using cocaine “casually”

        • torontothegreat

          Do you “actually” believe that moderate users of cocaine are the “exceptions” to the rule?

          Now THAT is some funny ish.

          I totally agree that crackheads are on the skinny side. Who says Ford is a crackhead? Moderate cocaine use will have very little/if at all effect on your weight.

          • CaligulaJones

            “Do you “actually” believe that moderate users of cocaine are the “exceptions” to the rule?

            Now THAT is some funny ish. It tells me you have no idea what you’re talking about.”

            Well, your question tells me that you can’t read English very well. I give you props for trying to learn a new language, though. Try harder next time.

            The “rule” I mentioned is that users of large amounts of cocaine generally aren’t fat. They are skinny. As with meth addicts, they tend to stay up for days, don’t eat and tend to also indulge in massive amounts of alcohol.

            Yo mentioned Farley. I agreed, and mentioned Belushi, two fat guys who did a lot of coke. And heroin. And booze. And were rich. Not like your average, undernourished, underhoused street addict. So Farley and Belushi WOULD BE EXCEPTIONS THAT DON’T PROVE THE RULE.

            I know someone who survived a 70MPH bike crash. Most people don’t. He’s was an exception.

            Now, if you meant that most users of cocaine don’t moderate their use, I also call bullshit. Most users of every vice are moderate, that’s what “average” means. Some users aren’t. They tend to get noticed more. When I sit with my neighbour on a hot summer night drinking a cold Stella or two, I have nothing in common with a puking college student at the Brunny. Get it?

            “I totally agree that crackheads are on the skinny side. Who says
            Ford is a crackhead?”

            Look above. You are the first person who mentioned crack…

          • torontothegreat

            TLDR; “Well, your question tells me that you can’t read English very well.”

            English is my 3rd language. What’s your excuse? I had to stop because I can’t comprehend all the words you’ve misspelled or your piss poor attempt at using grammar.

            From the little knowledge I have of cocaine (no, not from The Google, this is from real life), the evidence of cocaine use is weight loss and bizarre decisions

            You are summarily wrong. Period. Now shut the fuck up.

            You are the first person who mentioned crack…

            Crackhead is a synonym for people who are addicted to drugs and described their behaviour – whether it’s ketamine, meth, cocaine or any other drug. You clearly know ZERO about drugs or drug culture. Educate yourself, you ignorant douchebag.

          • CaligulaJones

            I must yield the argument to your superior, and possible first-hand, knowledge of drug use and addiction.

            You are correct: use of cocaine, as alleged by Thomson, does not necessarily indicate an addiction on Ford’s part. And, although long-term use of a drug can indicate an addiction, and many addictions can lead to weight-loss, it is incorrect to state that any individual case of addiction will lead to weight-loss.

            I will also leave you to your undeserved and unsupported belief in your skills in English composition and comprehension. Your English, while better than my Ethiopian, does not indicate you should be lecturing anyone on its use.

            This is a comments box, not a dissertation. I made two typos, and should have realized that any attempt on my part to expand a comment would be met with immaturity, like TLDR. Which would be a lie, of course, but keep trying.

          • CaligulaJones

            Edit: Somalian, not Ethiopian.

          • torontothegreat

            Just as a suggestion, you could edit your entire post down quite a bit, whilst still communicating the same message – sans-diatribe.

            You are correct: use of cocaine, as alleged by Thomson, does not necessarily indicate an addiction on Ford’s part. And, although long-term use of a drug can indicate an addiction, and many addictions can lead to weight-loss, it is incorrect to state that any individual case of addiction will lead to weight-loss.

            Have a great day!

    • tyrannosaurus_rek

      The evidence of cocaine is trace in urine and hair samples, not bad decisions at the salon.

      • CaligulaJones

        I was discussing this with Mrs. Jones last night: Thompson’s next step will be sending a hair allegedly from Ford to a DNA lab. She only needs a hair, and a DNA lab now.

        • dsmithhfx

          Why a DNA lab?

          • CaligulaJones

            Um, to test for the cocaine she alleges he uses. Or diabetes. Or sweaty fat man syndrome. Its all on The Google, if you look.

          • vampchick21

            That wouldn’t be a DNA lab, that would be a different lab. A DNA lab is for testing, well, DNA, not drug use.

          • CaligulaJones

            You got me there, nice catch. Edit “DNA” lab to just plain “lab”, then…I guess I’ve seen “Gataca” too many times…

          • CaligulaJones

            Scratch that, still need to prove the hair is his. So, yes, it would have to be DNA.

      • vampchick21

        That is the final proof of someone’s cocaine use, other than definitative photos/videos/catching them red handed with the straw up their nose and blow on their face. But there are telling signs of cocaine use, non of which Fordo shows based on my own experience (see my post above). However, her assumption that Ford’s constant sweating is proof of coke use is amusing. The man sweats standing still, he always has. But he sweats because of his weight issue, not because of a drug issue. I think he drinks, and he looked pretty damn drunk in that photo she released, and being pretty damn drunk can lead to an idiot move like she’s accusing him of.

        • dsmithhfx

          Thompson said he wasn’t slurring his words or smelled of booze (he just seemed ‘out of it’), and that would be a bit tougher to slip past his handlers. Rob has had at least one known drug dealer in his home (his sister’s boyfriend, before he shot her in the face chez Ford and got banned from the manse). There’s also the episode of Rob promising to help some dude who phoned him up to get ‘street drugs’ during the last election, and the joint found on his person during his dui arrest in Florida. No, Rob is not squeaky clean by any stretch, and given past behaviors and the photo, it’s perfectly reasonable to suspect some kind of drug use on the night in question.

          Remember, we’re talking about an elected official here, not some low-life punk. Oh wait…

          • vampchick21

            She also based her cocaine assumption on the fact that he was sweating and speaking rapidly. He always sweats – see weight issue, and he always speak rapidly to cover the fact that he’s BSing most of the time.

          • CaligulaJones

            Re: the photo itself. Srsly? Because his eyes are shut? Because its a typical washed-out phone pic taken in bad light, from a bad angle.

            Everything else you say is bang on, but I don’t Brad Pitt would have looked good in that shot. We used to add captions to our teachers’ headshots in the yearbook. Many of them looked stoned. Come to think of it, many of them were. But seldom the ones who actually WERE.

            But, its a bit of a stretch to use the pic as anything for proof of anything, other than cell phone pics generally suck.

            One question: did he grab her ass during the first, or second pic (if I read correctly, there were two shots)?

          • vampchick21

            I don’t know, go ask her.

    • vampchick21

      My ex-husband is a coke addict (hence ex….lol). He did lose a great deal of weight, he had (and still has) extreme mood swings (screamed at me for an hour for treating myself to a burger with my own hard earned money), decided that it was a better use of his money to gamble and lose $5000 a week instead of providing spousal support, and believed himself to still be a 17 year old with no responsibilities (although I don’t blame that on the coke so much as the fact that he’s also a self centred jackass). I look at Ford and see an overwieght man who’s out of his element as mayor, who probably enjoys a few drinks. Not a coke addict. As to the rest of her allegations, not sure. He’s not exactly Mr Respect Women As Equals.

      • tyrannosaurus_rek

        “Enjoys a few drinks” is kinder than someone with a DUI and a history of drunken rants in public deserves.

        • CaligulaJones

          Does this mean the left will give him the benefit of the doubt as befits someone with a legally defined handicap (i.e., alcholism).

          Or would it be to much to give up that particular club?

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            You’ll have to ask “the left”.

          • CaligulaJones

            Sorry, I forgot to put that into the “what to call the left who don’t want to use the “l” word (don’t blame you)” filter.

            So, pick your poison: progressive today, tomorrow social democrat, I think next Tuesday its liberal.

            To make it easier, then, try “Does this mean his critics…”.

          • vampchick21

            Grow up a little here, ok? He has his critics on the right as well.

          • CaligulaJones

            Yes ma’am. I’ll try to be grown up to the grown ups here, but you don’t have much company in that regard.

            Yes, he has critics on the right, but the majority of them don’t criticize his policies. They certainly have as much ammunition on his behaviour as the left and mush middle does. Its, as the Pentagon might have it, a target-rich environment.

            But to us libertarian-types, he’s the perfect storm of idiotic buffoonery that is the goddess-sent gift that keeps giving.

          • vampchick21

            Drop the snark.

          • dsmithhfx

            Are you from Somalia, the Libertarian Paradise?

          • CaligulaJones

            Careful, son, don’t hurt yourself falling on that slippery slope…

          • torontothegreat

            I’m from Somalia…

          • dsmithhfx

            Are you still following me around?

          • vampchick21

            Being drunk doesn’t excuse one’s behaviour.

        • vampchick21

          I’m in a generous mood today…lol

      • torontothegreat

        I find it funny that everyone that’s debating the “was Ford on coke” has the stance that he’s either a crackhead addict or not doing it at all. There is a lot of room in the middle that’s being lost in these manic points.

        • vampchick21

          I think the real question in all this is: Did Ford grab Sarah Thompson’s arse or did she make it up for her own reasons? And unless he admits to it, she admits to it or a definative photo/video is released from another source at the party clearly showing the action in question, we aren’t going to know. As for coke, given that my ex was a casual user for a few years before he turned into an addict, obviously there are not the same signs before as after. (espcially since he hid it from me and I had no idea until it was too late). So maybe he did coke, maybe he didn’t. But we know he likes to tipple.

          • torontothegreat

            It’s true, we are getting a bit far into the coke end of this discussion

    • HarryBongers

      I’m not sure if she’s telling the truth or a version of it since robbie has his own credibility issues but what exactly does someone have to look like to be assaulted?

      • CaligulaJones

        Perhaps you should ask someone who believes that someone ever deserves to be so assaulted. I certainly don’t, and only a true illiterate would get that out of anything I wrote.

        The issue is credibility, and as someone who has been in the middle of two similar cases (as witness, smart ass), I don’t think Thompson has much. That Ford isn’t either doesn’t make her actions any less puzzling, does it?

        Or is this a case of the soft sexism of low expectations?

        • HarryBongers

          You don’t think she has credibility because of the way she looks. Got it. It’s weird because there are a lot of reasons to doubt her credibility so using her hair as an example is pretty stupid.

          • CaligulaJones

            No, I don’t think she has credibility because she seems to be going through a midlife crisis and getting dreads could be a sign of it. Accusing someone like she has could be another.

            She wants street cred as a publisher of a punk ‘zine, no problem. She wants to be seen as a major media player, its a rather bizarre thing to do, no? I personally don’t care, having had them myself. In my 20s.

            As for your illiteracy: “what exactly does someone have to look like to be assaulted?” rather infers the idea of “deserve”, ala “Slutwalk” nonsense. Sorry if I read too much into it.

          • dsmithhfx

            “she seems to be going through a midlife crisis”
            Based on what?

          • CaligulaJones

            Running for mayor with no hope of winning and getting radical haircut.

            Hey, I’m not the only one playing amateur psychologist here. At least I’m not libeling anyone.

          • dsmithhfx

            You’re doing a pretty job of trying to spread sleazy, baseless and irrelevant innuendo. So, points for trying.

          • CaligulaJones

            Hardly “irrelevant”. At least grade it on a curve: a self-described media mogul, who ran/is running/will run for mayor of the 4th largest city in North America says someone is on cocaine because she fucking GOOGLED the symptoms. If what I say is sleazy and baseless, what the fuck is Thompson? I’m an anonymous internet scold with no socially redeeming value. She’s a public figure, who I would HOPE you hold to a bit of a higher regard.

            Ask yourself an honest question: Do Thompson’s actions in the last week raise any questions to you?

            As previously mentioned, I was a witness to an alleged sexual harassment case. Female co-worker who had been told, repeatedly, by her female manager that her thigh-high mini-skirts were not proper office attire.

            Female co-worker responded by accusing male co-worker of looking up her skirt.

            Female co-worker was terminated when I testified that she had told me “if it was you, or Andy (who she apparently didn’t know was gay), it would be one thing, but Hugh is creepy”.

            So, I kinda know how these things work.

          • Eric S. Smith

            “So, I kinda know how these things work.”

            Clearly, your knowledge is comprehensive.

          • CaligulaJones

            Well, I was deposed in a sexual harassment case that ultimately was settled in favour of the accused, and my testimony resulted in the dismissal for cause of a liar. So there is that. I saw how $300 an hour lawyers work to drive wedges into your testimony. I even had a question on the colour of my stapler.

            So, yeah, all things being equal here, I do have better first hand knowledge of “he said, she said” situations than most here.

            Care to offer anything related concerning your knowledge? Or shall we just let the cricket orchestra run on a loop?

          • dsmithhfx

            “ran/is running/will run”

            Which is it?

          • CaligulaJones

            All of them, of course. She ran last time. She appears to be running now. Odds are she will run next time (pending Chow’s decision, of course. Nobody is dumb enough to challenge Chow on the left, although Thompson is perhaps trying to show that she, in fact, is.

          • arcticredriver

            Some people run for office when they have political opinions they feel strongly enough about, and want to express to the electorate. It is a profound misunderstanding of the politicial process to think that only those who win elections are winners, and that everyone else is a loser.

            If you are old enough, cast your mind back to Ross Perot’s Presidential campaign. He was an earnest guy, with his graphs and charts about deficit fighting. Perot didn’t win the election. He earned less than 10 percent of the votes. But his earnest graphs and charts changed the political dialog. Post Perot everyone had to take deficit fighting seriously, or have a good reason why a (temporary) deficit-fighting holiday was in order.

          • tyrannosaurus_rek

            “…she seems to be going through a midlife crisis…”

            The old “she’s hysterical” argument, still fresh in 2013 Toronto.

          • CaligulaJones

            Well, my comments here – all of them – were based on her allegations of Ford’s cocaine use. Nothing about the alleged sexual assault. Considering she got the dreads BEFORE the alleged sexual assault, you don’t seem to be making much sense.

            As I said, this seems to be the soft sexism of low expectations on your part.

            Smitherman also had a midlife crisis, and he got married and got a kid. My brother had one and leased a Presidia. Mine is spending more time slapping the hippies around here than I should. It will pass.

  • Zounds

    Oliva?