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City Says No to Oversized Signage at TD Centre

City's Sign Variance Committee votes down signs proposed for the Ernst & Young tower, thanks in part to a local architecture historian's passionate campaign.

Tower Five photo by Ian Muttoo from the Torontoist Flickr Pool.

Following her impassioned Facebook campaign in protest of proposed signage on two sides of Bay Street’s Ernst & Young building—also known as Toronto Dominion Centre Tower Five—OCADU professor and architecture historian Marie-Josée Therrien has achieved a victory. On Tuesday morning the City’s Sign Variance Committee voted against a proposed variance to allow for the construction of two large, illuminated wall signs on the tower that would exceed the signage size limits currently in place.

The tower in question is a later addition to the TD Centre complex designed by noted Modernist architect Mies van der Rohe, but it was built with Miesian design principles in mind. Representatives from Cadillac Fairview insist that the proposed signage will not impact the rest of the development and that larger signage is becoming a keeping-up-with-the-Joneses necessity on Bay Street, while Therrien thinks any sign at all would be a stain on the complex.

Members of the North York Community Preservation Panel and the Toronto Society of Architects both back Therrien’s appeal with their own endorsements. “The TD Centre is one of Toronto’s few examples of truly iconic architecture and currently has very little signage, certainly nothing of the scale and texture of what is being proposed,” reads a letter from Heather Dubbeldam and Richard Witt, co-chairs of the Toronto Society of Architects, urging the Sign Variance Committee to “consult with architectural and heritage exports prior to making any approvals.”

Toronto Heritage would not comment on the sign application, but did confirm that the heritage feature of Tower Five is limited to a portion of the old stock exchange facade, located toward the tower’s base.

“We agree with the opinion that there’s no cultural heritage value or interest in the tower above the stock exchange building, [which] exemplifies non-Miesian philosophy, contrary to his less-is-more vision,” argued Tonu Altosaar of B&H Architects, representing TD Centre owners Cadillac Fairview in defence of Tower Five signage. Altosaar cited the building’s street-level ornamentation, stock exchange incorporation, and upper-level pedestrian bridge as evidence of the tower’s divergence from the iconic TD Centre architect’s trademark style.

“The proposed signs are not contrary to public interest,” said Altosaar, arguing that the proposed signs’ positioning would not block natural light, nor would their lighting scheme contribute to light pollution.

Therrien remained unconvinced. “I request that we reconsider the entire signage issue, and do not allow for any signs because of the integrity of the building. Think of it as a copyright for an artist—would you put a logo on a monumental work of art? This is how I perceive the situation.”

“We have a lot of creative people in Toronto,” noted Therrien. “Maybe we can think about other ways to express your corporate identity.”

Though the vote against Cadillac Fairview’s proposal for larger-than-standard signage does not necessarily mean that Therrien’s wish for no signs, period, will be fulfilled, she remains hopeful.

“Will they go forward now that they say [standard-size signage] will look silly?” she asked doubtfully, referring to the sign proponents’ argument that larger signage is essential so as to fit in with the tower’s Financial District neighbours. “Will they contradict themselves? We’ll see.”

Comments

  • Jimmysmack

    But now how will people find out about exciting new products, tell me this libs!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2N7M5T7CS7H373CKJVVDUUETXI Tim Dempsey

      I wouldn’t even know that Bell or iPads existed, were it not for these adverts.

  • DRYDRY

    This town is turning into f*cking Times Square with all the bullsh*t lit screen crap everywhere.

    And the Pattisons, the Astrals, etc etc continue throw up illegal billboards, ad cubes, etc etc without anybody saying hey stop doing that sh*t.

    • http://twitter.com/mark_dowling Mark Dowling

      And the Fords are cutting the budget on enforcement, essentially giving the green light.

      • DRYDRY

        Yep.

  • ife

    “but it was built with Miesian design principles in mind”

    While I could argue the hell against that, thank god the billboards are gone. Now, if only they would bring ‘The Ring’ sculpture back….

  • junctionist

    This is the kind of victory that strengthens my faith in architecture and design in the Toronto. Great architecture shouldn’t be compromised to sell products. There are plenty of more reasonable advertising options that don’t compromise civic-responsibility.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about you, but I only do business with whoever has the largest and most intrusive signage.

  • Nancycrozier

    It wasn’t really “the city” that said no…City staff’s report recommended approving the variance. It was the Sign Variance Committee, composed of appointed citizens – non-staff, non-politicians – that voted down the report, and hence the larger-than-allowed signage.