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2011 Villain: The Underground Eglinton LRT

Nominated for: costing more and delivering less.

Torontoist is ending the year by naming our Heroes and Villains—the very best and very worst people, places, things, and ideas that have had an influence on the city over the past twelve months. From December 12–23, the candidates for Mightiest and Meanest—and new this year, a reader’s write-in option! From December 26–29 you’ll be able to vote for Toronto’s Superhero and Supervillain of the year, and we’ll reveal the results December 30.


Through the recession we’ve all heard our bosses and governments repeat the same fallacy: we’re all going to have to do more with less. Of course, you can rarely actually do more with less. Case in point: Toronto’s messed-up transit plans, starting with this year’s decision to cut routes while raising fares, but truly exemplified by the decision—made by Rob Ford, and later backed by Dalton McGuinty—to bury the Eglinton LRT.

Let’s talk straight: Transit City wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. It was a huge step forward for rapid transit in Toronto, but it was hardly a transit revolution. Still, it accomplished a great deal with relatively sparse funds and, significantly, it was supported by council and the province.

Rob Ford ditched the plan unilaterally, and while the province gave its okay, it’s likely that Dalton McGuinty figured $8.2 billion was already earmarked for Toronto, so if the new mayor wanted to hang himself in front of Ford Nation by using it for one project instead of seven, the Liberals were perfectly happy to give him the rope. It was a political win-win for Ford and McGuinty. For commuters, not so much. Nearly $4-billion got rerouted underground, just like that.

It’s worth noting that between David Miller and Rob Ford, most Torontonians never got a grasp on what light rail actually is. Some think it’s kinda like streetcars and some think it’s what you see on Spadina or St. Clair or the Scarborough RT. As a result, Rob Ford was able to go around telling us things like, “Most Torontonians prefer transit underground rather than on the street.” Yeah, well, duh. They’d probably prefer personal helicopters, pneumatic tubes, those cool cars from Minority Report or transporters even more. The question isn’t about what they want, it’s about what makes the most sense and what the city can afford.

Speaking of things most Torontonians didn’t know about the LRT, it’s a safe bet most never realized the central section of the LRT they wanted to bury was going to be buried anyway. There was never going to be a streetcar rumbling through the Yonge-Eglinton intersection. You only have to drive the great section east of Laird, where it was going to come above ground, to see there isn’t much streetscape with which to interfere.

There is, on the other hand, that pesky Don River to traverse. Going on the pre-existing surface road was going to be a piece of cake. Ford’s new super duper subterranean solution will cost untold millions, if it’s even physically possible. That depends on whether they tunnel way down deep or merely build a whole new bridge. Nobody knows because the project wasn’t fully costed and analyzed before Transit City was thrown out (there are similar issues out west, with Black Creek). And that’s just one example of money being wasted—and, more to the point, 45 kilometres of other rapid transit not being built—because of Rob Ford’s pet obsession and Dalton McGuinty’s decision not to fight him on it.

Rapid transit on Eglinton is great. An LRT is super great. A buried LRT is super duper great with cherries on top. But we can’t afford it without making huge sacrifices across the city. We will be paying for these sacrifices in infrastructure and opportunity costs for years to come. So instead, we’re doing less, and paying a lot more for it.

Comments

  • Anonymous

    Excellent summary of an issue few understand.

    • Brett Soutter

      I think that most people can agree that it’s buried Light Rail. That makes it a subway – but not HRT – and light rail. Now — how about the city comes together on a plan to actually BUILD something? Instead of bickering the tax dollars and decades away…

  • James

    I’ve noticed more and more that Ford is trying to convince people that Eglinton is a subway just because it’s underground: see his facebook post about making subways the backbone of transit in Toronto, in which he includes Eglinton as a subway.

    • Eric S. Smith

      If Ford can call Eglinton a subway, he’s probably closer to claiming that he’s kept a campaign promise to build new subways in a hurry. I suspect that even if Eglinton goes off like clockwork he’ll have missed a deadline, but I’m not going over his campaign materials to check.

    • Anonymous

      A campaign pledge was of a one seat rapid transit ride from Scarborough Centre to the Yonge subway utilizing the Scarborough RT right of way. It’s not a Bloor-Danforth extension as promised but it does get the job done.

  • Anonymous

    Ingrates, the lot of you.

    Most cities the world over would be estactic to be receiving a brand new 20 km subway line (25 kms when through-routed with the Scarborough Line) that’ll get one from Jane to McCowan in under 45 minutes; and yet here you are demanding more. This is why its taken 30 years (Sheppard nonwithstanding) to get anything built in this City.

    You want to talk about throwing out the Transfer Chitty scheme with the bathwater; what about the decades worth of subway-based plans, particularly along Eglinton and Sheppard/Finch/Finch Hydro you’re willfully being ignorant about?

    • Anonymous

      It isn’t a subway.

      • Anonymous

        Play semantic games all you want, it is functionally a subway line and that’s all that bloody matters.

        I suppose you think the Bloor-Danforth Line between Vic Park and Warden and Spadina Line between Eglinton West and Wilson aren’t subways either. Idiot.

        • Anonymous

          Pointing out that words have actual meanings is not “playing semantic games”. A subway and light rail run underground are completely different in virtually every aspect that saying one is “functionally” the other only demonstrates you are unqualified to discuss the topic. There is a reason both terms exist.

          And ending your reply with a name-calling means discussion can’t happen.

        • Anonymous

          You’ve really kind of proven the point about the lack of education on this, which is the fault of many.

          You could say that a large, fact propeller plane is “functionally” a jet but a jet is a different technology, so too is LRT. That’s not semantics.

          A subway is a specific kind of train and, as you rightly point out, they often run above ground, though a literal reading of the name might suggest otherwise. The LRT, despite running underground, is NOT a subway.

          QED.

          • Anonymous

            Commuters travelling at rapid 40 km/h speeds through the tunnel (or trench/elevated guideway) won’t give a flying fuck what you or I want to call it.

            Thanks for assuming I don’t know what I’ve talking about, btw. It only makes me happier that you and other anti-subway advocates are effectively powerless for the forseeable future.

    • Paul

      You really are a fucking moron. All the more so if you’re not being paid by Ford’s PR team.

      • Anonymous

        Why, because I want to finally see a subway line built right across the city within my lifetime?

        You anti-subway advocates are really going to have to come up with a better strategy than saying it costs too much or that supporters of subways (or underground LRTs, which coincidentally are the same width and diameter as Bombardier’s trainsets for the Montreal Metro yet somehow I’m moronic for stating that fact) are all on the Ford payroll.

    • Anonymous

      They would have got a “subway” through the central part of Eglinton anyway. What Ford has done has taken an above-ground rapid transit line with a dedicated right-of-way, signal priority, and no loss of road space and put it undergound to no benefit and great cost.

      • Anonymous

        Except the surface section from Don Mills to Kennedy was projected to operate at speeds of only 22 km/h. How infuriating it would’ve been for crosstown commuters to have their rapid transit commute grind to a screeching halt once the LRTs exited the tunneled section. Now there’s a guarantee of operational speeds of 40km or better the whole length of the line.

        This isn’t about Ford or choice of technology, it is about RAPID transit, which only a fully grade-separated right-of-way ensures us. I would’ve supported Transit City if its planners had acknowledged that Eglinton, more so than the other proposed routes, had densities right now with which to support a subway line.

        For the good of the City, I think it’s about time the pro-LRT advocates STFU about Transfer Shitty lest we risk losing the 26 km long fully grade-separated Crosstown Line and strong likelihood of a partial Sheppard extension (to Victoria Park, Warden or Kennedy).

    • Anonymous

      Ho hum, another ignorant neocon saying more nonsense about a subject they know nothing about, who needs their meds and some warm milk. Here’s some real info on ‘Transfer Chitty’ and other LRT lines instead of what you’re spewing from your spotty, excrement-covered behind.

  • MER1978

    You should have Rob Ford somewhere in the title… if money wasn’t an issue a fully underground LRT would be great… the fact that we don’t have unlimited money and the only reason we’re spending billions we don’t need to is because of Rob Ford… that’s what makes him the true villain.

    • Anonymous

      Can we argue that “affordable” plans are better when the affordable project gets cancelled amid mass public apathy, while three levels of government find not only the money to bury all of Crosstown, but also $2.6 billion to dig the Spadina extension to nowhere? Money is absolutely not the problem.

  • Eric S. Smith

    Those underground stations are much more expensive to build, operate, and maintain than surface stops would be. We can anticipate the deletion of proposed stations as costs mount and construction complications arise: less and less for more and more.

    And what about the tens of thousands of customers who would have gotten a higher order of transit running right past their front doors under Transit City, but now won’t see anything except reduced bus service? Mayor Ford says, “Buy a car, losers!”