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What’s Next for Occupy Toronto?

Post-eviction, protesters and supporters are working to maintain the movement's momentum and determine next steps.

November 23 in Nathan Phillips Square: Occupy Toronto gathers for their regular general assembly for the first time since being evicted from St. James Park.

Dave Vasey is what one might call a seasoned protester; he was arrested twice during the G20 protests (“I was the G20 fence guy,” he explains with a low chuckle), and had been camping at the Occupy Toronto protest site at St. James Park from the camp’s mid-October setup until last week’s eviction. While the physical campsite may no longer exist, Vasey is still moved by the unique convergence of people and interests he witnessed there.

“It was one of the more interesting spaces I’ve ever been in,” he says. “The organizing was, like, everyone. Nationalists, anarchists, Marxists, libertarians, atheists, hippies, white middle-class kids, inner-city community folks, homeless—it was a crazy space of interaction and conversation. You were never bored at Occupy, that’s for sure.”

It’s a diversity that Vasey hopes will continue as the movement moves on—and move it will, he says, in spite of losing a designated physical gathering space. Rallies have taken place in the days following the park’s clearing, and more public actions are in the works. Protesters are looking ahead, in spite of the post-eviction sting.

“In a way it kind of feels like there was a bit of a defeat,” Vasey acknowledges. “But marginalized people throughout the world—and we’re working with some of the most marginalized people in Toronto—don’t have that ability to give up. So we’ve got to keep going and building the resistance. We’re challenging power here. In a non-violent way, but in a firm way.”

“People are taking back a lot of different public spaces,” says Rebecca Granovsky-Larsen, a York University graduate student who was an occasional camper at Occupy and helped to run the site’s Free Skool, a centre for wide-ranging skill-shares and facilitated discussions. “For example, the University of Toronto students are organizing a whole series of events and possible occupations of public spaces.”

Public space reclamation continues to be a primary goal within the movement, in addition to rallies and discussion. “Hopefully we’re working towards a re-occupation,” says Vasey, but he admits the logistics are fuzzy; it’s still unclear whether the re-occupation will be immediate or held off until the spring, and where it would take place.

Despite the uncertainties plaguing the protesters, community support continues.”We’re still planning on coming out to a lot of events,” says Jesse Ovadia, a member of the Toronto chapter of Rhythms of Resistance, an international network of drumming groups that plays at demonstrations and direct actions and, locally, has been closely involved with Occupy.

“We’ve all organized together to come out and support at different events. We were out there at the beginning on the first day, and came out roughly once a week to help out and play music for the group. We attended a bunch of the rallies and the marches that they went on to help energize.”

While Ovadia can’t say what exactly is next for the movement, he knows Rhythms of Resistance will remain present. “We expect that in the next phase, we’ll still be involved.”

Vasey, too, remains optimistic about the next phase—whatever that may end up looking like. “We’re going to continue to build and grow,” he says.

Comments

  • Chris

    I believe before they do anything, the Occupy movement needs to decide what it is they’re fighting for. Without that, the public’s perception is that the protestors are wandering around aimlessly. I have written about this on my blog: http://www.thoughtexperiment.ca.

    • Anonymous

      The uninformed public’s perception that the Occupy movement doesn’t know why it’s protesting only exists because people like you repeat the propaganda. They protest for a number of reasons, but those reasons are interrelated and stated clearly if you’d care to listen.

      From the Guardian:

      ‘The mainstream media was declaring continually “OWS has no message”. Frustrated, I simply asked them. I began soliciting online “What is it you want?” answers from Occupy. In the first 15 minutes, I received 100 answers. These were truly eye-opening.

      The No 1 agenda item: get the money out of politics. Most often cited was legislation to blunt the effect of the Citizens United ruling, which lets boundless sums enter the campaign process. No 2: reform the banking system to prevent fraud and manipulation, with the most frequent item being to restore the Glass-Steagall Act – the Depression-era law, done away with by President Clinton, that separates investment banks from commercial banks. This law would correct the conditions for the recent crisis, as investment banks could not take risks for profit that create kale derivatives out of thin air, and wipe out the commercial and savings banks.

      No 3 was the most clarifying: draft laws against the little-known loophole that currently allows members of Congress to pass legislation affecting Delaware-based corporations in which they themselves are investors.

      When I saw this list – and especially the last agenda item – the scales fell from my eyes. Of course, these unarmed people would be having the shit kicked out of them.’

      • Testu

        Condescending replies like this are not helping anyone. If we’re uninformed it’s because despite reading local blogs and speaking in person to people involved in the Occupy movement we’ve come up with nothing close to a coherent message. Certainly not one that has anything to do with Toronto or Bay St.

        Your quote above would be perfect if we were in the United States, where every one of those items applies.

        In a more general sense, yes taking the money out of politics would be great. Unfortunately when the only message that’s getting out specifically mentions American PACs and Congress it’s difficult to understand why they’re occupying Toronto.

        • Anonymous

          I didn’t intend to be condescending, but when one person can see a coherent message where someone else cannot, and there are clearly vested interests in promoting the appearance of chaos and incoherence, well…

          “Your quote above would be perfect if we were in the United States, where every one of those items applies.”

          Only the specific details – the mechanisms and relevant Acts – of how to do it in above quote that apply to the US. The “general sense” you refer to is just as relevant to Canada: our politicians benefit monetarily from legislation they have a hand in passing, powerful industry lobbyists (many of them foreign industries) ply our government for favourable action, and our banking system is a tiny oligarchy of nickle-and-dimers.

          • Testu

            I agree with many of the ideals espoused by Occupy Wall Street, especially regarding financial reform and restriction of corporate political donations.

            However, Occupy Toronto is not Occupy Wall Street. The specific details are absolutely critical to a coherent message. Without them all people see is grumbling and discontent, because that’s all there is. “I’m mad about the way the world works” is technically a message, but it’s unfocused and difficult to support. Specifics make the message, they give people who aren’t familiar with Occupy Toronto something to discuss.

            What does Occupy Toronto want? Change for change’s sake? Or something that the average people who aren’t specifically involved in the movement can understand and support?

          • Anonymous

            Specific details don’t make the message, they make eyes glaze over. If your immediate goal is to get attention and support from people who feel detached from the political process, the last thing you want to do is throw parliamentary bill reference numbers in their face.

            Maybe Occupy hasn’t been the best at the PR game, but a distinction needs to be made between what they say and what the media says of them.

  • Anonymous

    Put two or three young artists together and within a week or two they’d probably be able to rent a gallery space for a month, organize a show, publicise it, and have a decent turnout.

    Then there’s this group, allegedly representing the 99%, who are unable to collectively pool the small amount of resources it would require to give themselves a roof over their heads. They wouldn’t be subject to “persecution” from the cops or have their “privacy” invaded by hostile journalists, and might even gain a tiny bit of credibility with the public.

    I guess that wouldn’t be cool enough though; they would lose their street cred (literally!)

    • Anonymous

      They aren’t unable, they’re uninterested. The entire point, the very catalyst, for Occupy’s primary tactic is the Tahrir Square occupation. If they wanted to be yet another Concerned Citizens For _____ operating out of a tiny office on Eglinton, they would be.

      • Anonymous

        As I said, it’s all about looking cool. No message, no location, no legitimacy.

        • Anonymous

          I didn’t compare conditions in Egypt to that in Canada (or the US for that matter). Even the originators of OWS didn’t – it was the symbolism of Tahrir Square they wanted to adopt.

          You should probably read the article you linked to, because it has nothing to do with “mob consensus” and everything to do with an interim military nigh-dictatorship.

    • iwork

      Does your comment indicate that you believe that Occupy protesters i) are uniformly homeless, ii) are “persecuted” by police or believe themselves to be, and iii) believe themselves to have had their “privacy” invaded by the media?
      If so, you have a very unique persepective. Unique and disjoint from reality.

      Most of the protesters who occupied St. James Park had homes. And jobs. Many people went from their tent to work and back again. Many homeless people were attracted to the safe space created in the park (relative to life on the streets generally) and the food. Unlike government agencies who have slowly and consistently pushed the marginalised further into the margins, the Occupy folk welcomed them, sheltered them, and fed them. Since eviction, most have returned to their homes. Rather than being concerned about their street cred, they are concerned with helping the homeless people who had joined them.

      Rather than sitting behind their computer and mocking occupiers, occupiers are trying to do something.

      Yes, it is disorganised. It has only been a couple of weeks since their hub was dismantled. Yet they continue to try to help those around them in the greatest need.

      Given the choice between doing something and doing nothing, they are choosing to do something. Something positive. What are YOU doing?