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Platform Primer: Electoral Reform

In the run-up to the federal election on May 2, we’ll be comparing the major parties’ platforms on issues that matter to urban voters.

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Each party’s key messages, according their respective colours. Image by Michael Chrisman/Torontoist.


Is the electoral system in this country broken? In spite of frequent tweaking to the seat-assignment formula over the years, current seats in the House of Commons don’t properly reflect regional populations, such that the 140,000 residents of Prince Edward Island have four members of Parliament while Brampton West, home to 170,000 people, has just one.
In addition, the First Past the Post (FPTP) system used in Canada sends only the top votegetter per riding to the House of Commons, which marginalizes independent and minor-party candidates and lends itself to regional divisions.
In spite of this, voters have rejected forms of Proportional Representation (PR) in Prince Edward Island in 2005, in Ontario in 2007, and in British Columbia in 2005 and again in 2009. There are various reasons for this, not least of which is that PR voting systems can be complex to understand and boring to read about. FPTP, on the other hand, is familiar and straightforward: whoever gets the most votes wins the seat, and whoever gets the most seats forms a government (usually).
Failed referendums notwithstanding, electoral reform in various forms remains a hot topic at election time, although the parties have divergent views on what, if anything, we should do about it.

Conservatives

Just about any kind of proportional representation would see fewer Tory seats in the House of Commons, which may be why it’s not something they like to talk about. Moreover, PR systems lead to coalition governments, which ranks behind terrorism but ahead of climate change in the Conservative list of Potential Canadian Disasters.
Although PR is off the table, the Tories have advocated for Senate reform since they first formed a government in 2006, and are making an issue of it in this election. The Senate, of course, is the appendix of Canadian government, in that no-one knows exactly what it does, but as long it’s not actively harming anything the general view is that it’s best just to leave it alone. Key Tory proposals: a term limit of eight years as a short-term measure, followed by the ultimate goal of having an elected rather than an appointed Senate. However, they’ve been repeatedly stymied in their efforts by several provinces and by the “Ignatieff coalition” (i.e. anyone who’s not a Conservative). Distrust of an appointed Senate has not, however, stopped the PM from dropping 30 Senators into the upper chamber.
While not proponents of proportional representation as it applies to political parties, Conservatives would adjust the current House of Commons representation to more accurately reflect the geographical distribution of Canada’s population. To that end, they promise to increase the number of seats for Alberta, Ontario, and BC to align with their population growth, which seems reasonable. However, they also commit to “ensuring that Quebec’s seat numbers will not drop below its current 75 seats” (a right which Quebec has been guaranteed since 1985 anyway) which smacks of sophistry in that ensuring la belle province séparatiste keeps 75 seats doesn’t buy them much if other provinces double up their count.

Liberals

Like the Tories, the Liberals would likely lose seats under any form of proportional representation, and their platform doesn’t address the idea at all. Rather, the Grits look to secure the hipster/gamer/shut-in vote by advocating an “online voting option,” which is exactly what it sounds like. While it might be fun to vote without leaving your poker game, online voting is hardly more revolutionary than online porn was, and is likely to be less popular.
The Liberals would also like to see a People’s Question Period, which in spite of its Cultural Revolution nomenclature is a fairly benign innovation which would allow regular folks to ask online questions of government ministers (“UR SO STUPID WHY DON’T YOU GO TO CHINA IF U THINK ITZ SO GRATE?”).
The Grits would also like to restore civility to Parliament, reduce partisanship, and create more interesting committees. However, when it comes to electoral reform that extends beyond cosmetic change, the Grits are strangely silent.

NDP

Traditionally third-placers at the federal level, the New Democrats have been long-time advocates of electoral reform. Like the Tories, they don’t care much for the Senate, but instead of moving towards election rather than appointment of our most useless legislative body, they’d take a sledgehammer to the whole thing. Failing that, the New Democrats would enact laws preventing failed candidates and party insiders from getting cushy senatorial jobs.
The NDP also like proportional representation, which as a smaller party would typically work to their advantage. While the New Democrats have yet to offer a specific plan, leader Jack Layton has been quite open about his desire to institute some form of PR at the federal level. Of course, that view could change with the rising popularity of the NDP and the increased chance of Layton pulling up in front of Stornoway, or even 24 Sussex, with a U-Haul full of mustache wax and socialism.

Green Party

The most significant party never to win a seat in Parliament, the Greens are strong backers of a PR system that would allow them to enter the House of Commons without a tour guide. As a small party with supporters spread across the country, First Past The Post is no friend to the Greens: to put it into perspective, in the 2008 election 74,000 voters in PEI got four MPs, while almost a million Green voters only got a warm and fuzzy feeling that they’d Done The Right Thing.
As far as the Senate goes, the Greens advocate curbing “abuses” (specifically by not allowing unelected representatives to block legislation) but don’t speak with the confidence of the resurgent NDP about abolishing the institution altogether.

The Upshot

The NDP promise the most change, if that’s your thing. They’d get rid of the Senate and move towards a proportional representation voting system (assuming the electorate wants such a thing, which they haven’t yet indicated). If the NDP stick to their guns, the surprising spike in their popularity could mean it happens sooner rather than never.
The Greens also advocate for PR, but will be lucky to elect a single MP without it, so their influence is likely to be limited. The Conservatives would like to have an elected Senate, but view it as a long process, and have expressed no interest in any change to First Past the Post voting. And the Liberals are essentially status quo. Apart from letting you vote from home in your underwear, they seem pretty happy with the way things are right now.

For more on the federal election, check out our politics hub, with a complete guide to every riding in Toronto. For all the details on their policy plans, also check out the platforms of the Conservative Party, the Green Party, the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party.

Comments

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    It's mind-boggling that a leader found in contempt of parliament is allowed to run again, and likely form the next (minority) government without anyone held accountable.

  • tomwest

    Holding a general election *is* holding them accountable! Every Canadian citizen can take part in choosing whether or not they form a new government.

  • tomwest

    The 1867 Constitution Act means PEI must have at least four seats, or one per 34,000 people. If we want equal-population constituencies across all ten provinces, you'd need about 900 MPs. Either PEI no longer has a four-seat minimum, the number of MPs is increased dramatically, or we maintain the status quo. (Where MPs from Ontario, Alberta and BC all represent over 100,000 people, while the MPs from PEI represent 34,000 people).

  • http://twitter.com/maharper82 Matthew Harper

    A majority of BC voters did support the proposed electoral reform in 2005, but it just didn't go through because of the obscenely anti-democratic super-majority that the BC Liberals required for reform to be adopted.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    I'm saying he shouldn't be allowed to run or remain leader, obviating the chance of him leading the next government. What good is a contempt charge that has no teeth? If contempt of parliament is a crime, what other crimes should be tried by popular opinion instead of the legal system?

  • http://twitter.com/jaketobin Jake Tobin Garrett

    In BC the STV vote had to garner a 60% majority to pass. In this exact same election Gordon Campbell was elected with a majority government with only 45%. I guess majority can really mean whatever you want it to mean.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    Something has to change, I don't mind either solution.

  • torontothegreat

    Harper isn't in contempt, the tories were. Otherwise, yes he would be charged.

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    “referenda”? A matter of preference, I guess.

    The article has the population of PEI at both 140,000 (first paragraph) and 74,000 (first paragraph under “Green Party”).

  • Jacob_Sheen

    Actually, those numbers refer to different things. 140,000 is the population of PEI, and 74,000 is the number of votes cast in PEI in that election.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    And who is the leader of the Tories?

  • g026r

    “If contempt of parliament is a crime [...]“

    It's not. It's a parliamentary offence, but it's not a crime.

  • torontothegreat

    Not sure what you're getting at actually.

    Leaders are carte blanche targets for restitution for their employees mishaps? That's what it sounds like you're infering here?

  • torontothegreat

    They can go to jail so yes, it is/can be a crime.

  • g026r

    No, in Canada it is not. Point blank. No exceptions, equivocations, or special cases.

    The censure imposed by parliament can, though rarely does, include imprisonment, yes. But imprisonment alone does not make something a federal crime, and you will not find contempt of parliament listed anywhere in the Criminal Code or any of the handful of other documents that identify what qualifies as a criminal offence in Canada.

  • torontothegreat

    I stand corrected. It's equivalent to contempt of court.

  • Eric S. Smith

    Let's not pretend that Stephen Harper isn't in charge of the Conservative caucus to the extent that they all do what they're told, and what they're told to do is to sit down, shut up and follow orders. Neither let us pretend that any of his party's anti-democratic shenanigans have been “mishaps”.

  • Eric S. Smith

    You could shrink that 74,000 yet again by counting only voters who actually got what they wanted (which is to say, people who voted for the winner).

  • Eric S. Smith

    People's Question Period … would allow regular folks to ask online questions of government ministers

    The fact that Ignatieff blithely claims that this means he'll answer questions “without filtering” suggests to me a deliberate disregard for the practicalities of the proposal. It is still a charming idea, though I fear that it would not last a month.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    What's the point of it then? It has no teeth, it means nothing.

  • http://openid.anonymity.com/5NyHyVY7 reck_tyrannosaurus

    a minority “leader found in contempt of parliament” by parliament. talk about the legitimacy of parliament become slave to the will of the majority. oops, i forget, that isn't a problem right? parliament should always bow to the majority, unlike justice?

  • http://openid.anonymity.com/5NyHyVY7 reck_tyrannosaurus

    @tyrannosaurus_rek “What's the point of it then? It has no teeth, it means nothing. “
    it means that the majority showed no confidence.

  • http://openid.anonymity.com/5NyHyVY7 reck_tyrannosaurus

    Majority means you got the most seats. It's a fairly simple definition. It doesn't mean the majority of all voted, or the majority of the population. It just means that you got the largest sum of seats.

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    Right you are—sorry!

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    No, the government fell because the majority showed no confidence following the Contempt of Parliament ruling passed down by the Speaker and the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs. The two are unrelated; the Opposition could have let it slide if they wanted.

    Nice screen name, by the way. I'm flattered.

  • torontothegreat

    Irrelevant posturing aside, do you have legal proof of your libel claims?
    We both know the answer. N-O.

    Instead, let's concentrate on actual facts, instead of hearsay. Why don't we talk about why Bev Oda hasn't been charged with fraud?

  • torontothegreat

    “Opposition could have let it slide if they wanted”

    In other news, pigs can fly, hell has frozen over and the West is now an Ismanic state.

  • torontothegreat

    An election was called, was it not? You're just not satisfied with our system. It has nothing to do with who has teeth or not.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    You really ought to pay closer attention to the political landscape of this country. There's a reason Harperland gets reviews like this (emphasis mine):

    “The first substantial book to peek behind the curtain of Stephen Harper's government paints a portrait of the prime minister as a control freak largely motivated by hatred for his political opponents.”
    —The Chronicle Herald

    “An exhaustive catalogue of Harper's “deeply seeded” need for complete information control and his discipline, ruthlessness—and information duplicity—in pursuing his goals.”
    —Winnipeg Free Press

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    The election was going to be called anyway, it was just convenient for the Opposition that they could call it on this issue instead of the Budget. Really, pick up a newspaper sometime.

    Contempt of parliament does not mean a no confidence vote must follow. I dare you to produce evidence to the contrary. All form of censure is at the whim of the Speaker/Committee.

    And really, is anyone satisfied with our system? A few minutes of research will expose its inherent flaws to anybody.

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto
  • Eric S. Smith

    What “libel claims”? What “hearsay”?

    As for Bev Oda, I don't see how fraud would be the appropriate charge under the Criminal Code, since she wasn't tricking anyone into paying her. Section 366, Forgery, would appear to be the closest match, but I bet that she'd skate on the exception in 366(5) even if forgery were applicable.

  • torontothegreat

    Your original post said: What's the point of it then? It has no teeth, it means nothing.

    I provided a worth while “point”. So now, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

  • torontothegreat

    I'm not defending Harper. Yourself and Eric S seems hellbent on painting some sort of wierd picture where Harper did something illegal on record.

    He didn't. Bev Oda did. Therefore, your point is rather pointless.

    Cute book reviews, not sure where I see the smoking gun though…

  • torontothegreat

    You need to brush up on your definition(s).

    According to the Collins English Dictionary 10th Edition fraud can be defined as: “deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage“. In the broadest sense, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual;

  • torontothegreat

    Provide proof that Haper was behind this entire incident.

    C'mon, I dare you.

    “What “libel claims”? What “hearsay”?”

    See above. It's a worthwhile challenge to someone who appears so confident in themselves. I expect the sounds of silence to now fall on your tongue.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    You seem to be unaware that there was more than one Contempt of Parliament charge bandied about at the time; the one on Oda did not stick (as parliament was dissolved before a vote could be taken), and the reasons for it are unrelated to the one that did stick to the Harper Government (formerly Government of Canada).

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    Again: a vote of no confidence is not a form of parliamentary censure.

  • Eric S. Smith

    You need to brush up on your definition(s).

    I know you are, but what am I?

    You asked why Bev Oda wasn't being charged with fraud. The answer is that the Criminal Code attaches a more specific meaning to “fraud” than “a mean trick.”

    Even your Collins won't save your contention that I've made “libel claims.” I was actually, not just rhetorically, confused on that point, though now I see that you probably meant “libellous claims”.

    As for the claim to which you object, that Stephen Harper tells his cabinet ministers what to do, and that they do it, it's conventional wisdom. The PMO was mighty in Chrétien's day, too.

    God only knows what you meant by “hearsay;” I suggest that you shout “habeas corpus” and call it a day.

  • torontothegreat

    I'll say it again: “Harper isn't in contempt, the tories were. Otherwise, yes he would be charged.”

    Why you're having such a hard time seeing this is beyond me.

    I will now post back the question I initially asked you, which you completely skirted the answer to (Wow! One of Harper's tactics, actually)

    “Leaders are carte blanche targets for restitution for their employees mishaps?”

  • torontothegreat

    It doesn't matter what is “conventional wisdom”. I wasn't aware that democracy is defined that way. Nor was I aware that the laws of Canada are defined that way.

    Fraud:

    “380. (1) Every one who, by deceit, falsehood or other fraudulent means, whether or not it is a false pretence within the meaning of this Act, defrauds the public or any person, whether ascertained or not, of any property, money or valuable security or any service”

    Did the fiasco not lead to fraud by the simple fact that the organization was DENIED money by FALSEHOOD and DEFRAUDED the public of it's merit and services that the organization provides? I would suggest you re-read the law here. It's plain as day, even within the link you provided.

    Hearsay: You're claiming something w/o proof. I can imagine how your “smoking gun” is a newspaper editorial, or (god forbid) a torontoist editorial talking about how Harper is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDD!

    “now I see that you probably meant “libellous claims”.”

    Please excuse the fact that English is not my first, second or third language.

    So c'mon, stop talking circles and give us some proof. PICS or it did'nt happen!

  • torontothegreat

    let me just c/p the retort you avoided

    “Opposition could have let it slide if they wanted”

    In other news, pigs can fly, hell has frozen over and the West is now an Ismanic state.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    You really didn't follow this issue as it developed, and it shows by your use of “mishaps”. I'm really not sure we can continue this discussion until you've brought yourself up to speed. You should also brush up on Harper's governing and party leadership style, since you clearly have some uninformed assumptions there (which is disappointing, considering how long he's been leader of the Conservatives).

    And remember, no individual member was named in the ruling because the contempt was systematic – there was more than one member involved in the withholding of cost reports on the 18-or-so relevant bills, but they all answered to the same man.

  • Eric S. Smith

    (God, talk about knit picking on an extra S)

    Congratulations on aggressively missing every single point.

  • torontothegreat

    Congrats for only reading a pittance of my reply than.

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    Get back on your meds, please.

  • http://openid.anonymity.com/5NyHyVY7 Reckasoreass

    @tyrannosaurus_rek

    you are either naive or retarded, which is it? to view the act of them passing a motion of no confidence and the contempt of parliament ruling as separate would require that there are two separate parliaments occupied by two separate bodies of people, which clearly isn't the case. context is everything, to understand the no confidence motion and the contempt ruling separate is to ignore that the opposition wanted an election. you should stop conflating things, you aren't doing any justice for whoever mouthpiece you are. .

  • http://openid.anonymity.com/5NyHyVY7 Reckasoreass

    What an insightful reply. Why, i can only wonder how inapproachable and sound your reasoning is behind that statement.

    Dude, if you think you are authoritative and can go beyond the need to articulate a reason, you shouldn't burst that illusion with an admission of fallibility, “Right you are—sorry! ” line.

  • http://paul.kishimoto.name Paul Kishimoto

    You must be new here. The underlined bits are hyperlinks: like this.

  • torontothegreat

    You're both so full of crap your mouths are full of it. Answer the questions I've posed. Oh you can't? Please see first sentance.
    The 2 of you. Rhetorical kings. Eric S gets extra points for focussing on my spelling.
    Yet, neither one of you has answered to your absurd claims at all. Harper playbook much?

  • tyrannosaurus_rek

    Stop wasting my time.

    I don't know why you and torontothegreat want to make it clear how little you understand parliamentary procedure in Canada – and Harper's record – but you can continue your rude games with someone else.

  • torontothegreat

    Brave words for someone who has only been letting out hot air this entire discussion. You can't seem to get past why Harper isn't being charged or why he's allowed to run for office again. And yet you accuse US of not understanding pariamentary procedure in Canada? ROFLMFAO!

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    yes it means that the majority showed no confidence.

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