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What Else Would Light Rail Be Like?

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Cross-section of an intersection along the proposed Sheppard East LRT. Image taken from the Sheppard East Environmental Project Report Summary [PDF].


After our previous post comparing some of the light rail lines proposed under the embattled Transit City plan to systems in other cities, several commenters chimed in with other examples, some of which hew even more closely to Toronto’s plan than the ones we initially put forward. These other examples are, in other words, cities with light rail systems that entered service within the past decade, using technology and road layouts very similar to those Toronto would be employing if its own light rail scheme were to go ahead as originally envisioned. After the jump, brief rundowns of the setups in two of those cities, both of them real-life glimpses at what Mayor Ford is trying, for good or ill, to trade for a subway to Scarborough.


Seattle, Washington: Sound Transit Link Light Rail

First Entered Service:
In 2009.
Speed:
The system’s scheduled average speed is about forty kilometres per hour.
Total System Length and Number of Stops:
About twenty-five kilometres, thirteen stops.
What it has in common with the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
Seattle’s light rail tracks run both through tunnels and along surface streets. Where the light rail vehicles run along surface streets, they occupy exclusive lanes along centre medians with two lanes of traffic on either side, just like Transit City light rail vehicles would under the existing plan.
How it differs from the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
Link’s downtown Seattle tunnel is shared with buses, while Transit City’s Eglinton Avenue tunnel would be for the exclusive use of light rail vehicles. In addition to its underground tunnels, Link Light Rail has a section of elevated track about eleven kilometres long. The Eglinton Avenue tunnel, for comparison, would be about ten kilometres long. The existing plan calls for the rest of Toronto’s system to be at street level, in separated median lanes.

Phoenix, Arizona: METRO Light Rail

First Entered Service:
At the end of 2008.
Speed:
About twenty-nine kilometres per hour, on average.
Total System Length and Number of Stops:
About thirty-two kilometres, twenty-eight stops.
What it has in common with the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
Like Transit City would, the majority of METRO’s tracks run at street-level, primarily in median lanes separated from auto traffic by a curb.
How it differs from the proposed Transit City light rail lines:
METRO has no underground stretches of track, but achieves its fairly high average speed by picking up and dropping off passengers relatively infrequently. The average distance between stops is about a kilometre, whereas Transit City’s surface routes would have stops approximately every five-hundred metres.

For similar information about the proposed Transit City lines (and light rail systems in four other cities), see our original post.

Comments

  • http://twitter.com/mark_dowling Mark Dowling

    Transit City maybe should have been called the “T-Train” since it would closely resemble Calgary's C-Train, with trains of 2-3 vehicles, and get away from the “just a streetcar” label. Calgary also produces flythrough youtube videos to give people a sense of the project, not cross sections.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Benjamin-Smith/1547119789 Benjamin Smith

    Thing is, besides the vehicles used, it will have very little in common with the C-Train. The C-Train has widely spaced stations throughout the city, and protected crossings when intersecting with streets at-grade.

    Transit City lines have stops only slightly more spaced out than current bus routes, and signal priority is questionable.

  • wklis

    I noticed towards the end of the Seattle, Washington video the transit signals changing from the vertical (GO) to the horizontal (STOP). Here in Toronto, Ontario, they would duplicate the signals, add English word signage (so that the French, Chinese, Polish, etc. wouldn't understand it), and use regular traffic signals just confuse the motorists to think the signals were meant for them.

  • http://twitter.com/SteveC_123 Steve Chui

    Light rail should be a better alternative for buses compared to subways. There is no stairs to climb and easier to access for emergencies. They should really test out transit priority on the St. Clair line before implementing it somewhere else. In case the model fails.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=578794591 Nenad Vidovic

    why are the stations not more spaced out? i assume buses will still operate on the proposed routes, so if you are more than 250m away from light rail station you could take a bus to the rail station. The reason buses and streetcars are so slow is that there is a stop every 200m. For example there are 3 bus stops on Eglinton between Mount Pleasant and Yonge and I walk that distance every day (and sometimes even faster than the bus),.. For the light rail they should make stops every 1km, so more people get some walking exercise.

  • wklis

    Except that the elderly and those with walking difficulties would disagree with you. In other words, break a leg and then try those distances you find fine at the moment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Benjamin-Smith/1547119789 Benjamin Smith

    @wklis, he was suggesting running a parallel local bus service along side the express rapid transit light rail line. That way those with less mobility can still get around like they did before.

    Speaking of which, it would be interesting to see how many seniors actually live with a bus stop outside their front door. I'm willing to bet that many already walk a fair way in from residential areas on to major streets. Those with serious mobility issues probably take WheelTrans, taxis, or drive themselves.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Benjamin-Smith/1547119789 Benjamin Smith

    The plan is for no parallel bus service. Some genius (probably Giambrone) decided to ignore how dynamic commutes are in Toronto and the GTA, and decided to spend billions to put the bus on rails. But don't worry, according to this genius by doing this it will “magically transform” suburban arterials into “urban avenues” similar to those in the inner city.

    While we should be trying to encourage people to live closer to their jobs, the reality is that downtown Toronto or York University are not going to suddenly pick up and move closer to Agincourt simply because it has a tramway running through it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LTBY32BDN6QMBZB54KCGZZA4OI P C

    Paris' tram system seems quite close to what is proposed for Transit City. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…

  • nevilleross

    Try convincing most people who are anti-Transit City, though, that this is what other world-class cities also have.

  • nevilleross

    Try convincing most people who are anti-Transit City, though, that this is what other world-class cities also have.