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Canvassers Debate Transit City and Light Rail, Door to Door

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Canvassers prepare to hit the streets.


In proclaiming the Transit City light rail plan “over” last week, on his first day in office, Mayor Ford may have inadvertently created the conditions for a new beginning.
On Saturday, supporters of the provincially backed plan gathered to canvass homes in the Yonge Street and Eglinton Avenue area, in an attempt to raise awareness of the plight of light rail in Toronto. Yonge and Eglinton had been chosen because it falls within the jurisdiction of councillor Karen Stintz (Ward 16, Eglinton-Lawrence), Ford’s pick for the next chair of the TTC.


The canvass had been organized informally, on Facebook, by Adam Chaleff-Freudenthaler, a Toronto Public Library board member and (defeated) Toronto District School Board trustee candidate in this year’s municipal election.
Almost two hundred people had indicated on the event’s Facebook page that they’d be in attendance, but, in typical Facebook fashion, only about thirty actually showed. Chaleff-Freudenthaler was pleased with the turnout.
“It could have been five people, it could have been five hundred people. And I’m thrilled to see what we’ve got here today,” he said.
“The plan is to tell people that it’s not about the name of one plan or another. It’s not about one politician proposing it or another,” he continued. The objective, instead, was to engage voters in a conversation about the future of public transit in Toronto, while emphasizing that work on Transit City’s proposed light rail lines is already underway, and would be difficult and possibly costly to call off.
Chaleff-Freudenthaler delivered a brief instructional speech, during which canvassers were given clipboards with stacks of photocopied flyers (headline: “KEEP RAPID TRANSIT ON TRACK”), a list of talking points, a map with a route to follow, and a signature sheet for a petition to be delivered to Ford and Stintz. It was below freezing outside, so all this paperwork was put into gloved and mittened hands.
Among the canvassers was Jon Sohn, a tall guy in a navy coat and toque, with a calm, empathetic demeanor. He said he had never been involved in a political campaign before. A computer programmer by profession, he’d decided to participate because he was dismayed by the mayor’s abrupt decision to cancel a plan that was years in the making.
“The only person I know who’s against it is Rob Ford,” he said. Most of the other canvassers we spoke to had similar backgrounds and reasons for having come.
It was time to head out, so Sohn assembled a group consisting of himself, his friend Joel Dalton, and Martin Abela, who had arrived a little late. A long-time Toronto resident, Abela was perhaps in his forties, and said he’d participated in similar political actions in the past, including one in support of the often-derided St. Clair Avenue streetcar right-of-way, completed last year after delays and cost overruns. He unzipped his leather jacket to show off his sweatshirt, which had a picture of a TTC streetcar on it.
The three canvassers walked north on Yonge Street until they arrived at their designated cross street: an upper-middle-class haven of two-storey, one-family homes, most of which had cars in their driveways.
After about an hour of going from house to house, Abela knocked on a door, and a woman in her twenties answered. He launched into the speech he’d been refining over the course of the afternoon: he told the woman that more than one hundred million dollars had been spent already on Transit City, and that canceling the light rail plan could be costly. He told her that Ford’s preferred solution, an extended Sheppard subway line, would provide considerably less track distance than the light rail alternative, but for about the same amount of money. Eventually, the woman cut him off. She was from Calgary, she said, and, while she liked her home city’s light rail network, she couldn’t sign the petition in good conscience. As Abela was about to leave, a voice from somewhere inside the house cried, “Wait!” The woman’s mother ran to the door and asked if Abela was there about Transit City.
“Have you got a petition I can sign so that son of a bitch doesn’t cancel this?”

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Adam Chaleff-Freudenthaler warms up the crowd.


Most reactions to the entreaties of the canvassers were more moderate. Several people said they’d heard of Transit City, but hadn’t given much thought to it. A few people strongly disapproved of Ford’s attempt to cancel light rail expansion and signed the petition without much urging. Many people weren’t home.
One man spent five minutes arguing calmly with Sohn and Dalton about the negative impact he thought light rail would have on car traffic. Another cited the St. Clair streetcar right-of-way as evidence that above-ground rail doesn’t work in Toronto.
The last stop of the night was a home like any other in the neighbourhood. It was getting late, and Abela, who had already put in a respectable few hours, had left for the evening. A woman in her sixties opened the door. “I have both thoughts,” she said, after Sohn and Dalton had given their pitch. “But my husband is a structural engineer and he wants the subway because he thinks it will last longer.”
Sohn and Dalton offered her the petition. “He won’t sign it and I have to back him on this,” she said. And then she called her husband to the door. He invited the two canvassers inside. Everyone moved into the living room and took seats on beige leather couches and chairs.
“Subways are the way to go,” said the engineer.
“Toronto is going to be a major city, world class,” he continued. He verbally ticked off a list of other world-class cities: London; New York; Washington, D.C. “Do you see streetcars and light rail?” he asked, rhetorically. “No.”
His point was that subways can handle more density than light rail, and might therefore be useful for a longer period of time. The TTC has given this some consideration: they’ve forecasted ridership demands to 2031 for the Eglinton, Sheppard, and Finch corridors where light rail is planned, and found that the densities wouldn’t be enough to justify subways. But the engineer was thinking further ahead than 2031, to a time when Toronto might be as populous and concentrated as places like London and Manhattan are today.
He was dismissive of the political situation that makes it difficult for the City to secure money for public transit from higher levels of government. (Money is scarce in the first place, and spending the funds budgeted for light rail on subways, instead, would require provincial permission and would necessitate breaking contracts with equipment vendors.) “You’re talking about a money problem, here,” he said. “Not the right solution.”
“Once you make a commitment to a system, it’s very, very, very expensive to convert years later to the utopian ideal,” he said. “Commit to the right system. Rob Ford is absolutely right.” The engineer said this with an air of finality. His decades of experience had left him certain of at least that much.
After the debate had gone on for about twenty minutes, during which Sohn and Dalton did their best to articulate their side of the issue, the engineer’s wife put an end to it, perhaps sensing that the conversation had arrived at an impasse. There was no acrimony in the room; everyone seemed grateful to have had the opportunity to speak and be heard.
Back on Yonge Street, it was already dark out. Dalton and Sohn prepared to separate for the evening, to pursue their respective Saturday night plans. As they walked toward the subway station, they discussed what the engineer had said.
“Have you ever heard the term ‘vapourware?’” asked Sohn.
“No, what’s that?” asked Dalton.
“It’s when there’s a piece of software that’s had lots of development and resources put into it, but it never materializes. You can see it, but you can’t ever touch it.”
“To me, subways are vapourware. Whatever else Transit City is, at least it’s real.”
Photos by Hamutal Dotan/Torontoist. Dotan, Torontoist’s senior editor, is also Adam Chaleff-Freudenthaler’s partner; she was not involved in editing this article.

Comments

  • you

    “Have you got a petition I can sign so that son of a bitch doesn’t cancel this?”
    God bless this lady.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    Great article and kudos to these guys! :) One small nitpick is, technically that is NOT the definition of vapo(u)rware and his explaination of it is actually backwards lol.

  • http://undefined joelphillips

    He verbally ticked off a list of other world-class cities: London; New York; Washington, D.C. “Do you see streetcars and light rail?”

    I don’t know why everyone seems to think that London doesn’t have light rail.

  • http://undefined jw03

    Of course, there is light rail in two of the three “world-class” cities the engineer in the article quoted.
    London has the Docklands Light Rail system to serve that large redeveloped area. It has helped to increase the density and appeal of the neighbourhoods it serves so much that it has been extended three times already, and a fourth extension is in the works. It’s currently at 31 kilometres.
    New York has a smaller light rail system: the JFK AirTrain, which is 13 kilometres long.
    Save Transit City.

  • http://undefined jw03

    And as joelphillips pointed out, London also has Tramlink, most of which is 28 kilometres long and like the DLR, major plans for expansion.

  • http://undefined girlnext

    It’s great that people took the time to go canvas. I’ll look for the Facebook group, and will absolutely join you if you go again.
    I was frustrated yesterday, after voicing my concern to Councillor Stintz, to receive a response that boiled down to “Rob Ford was elected, so he’s got a public mandate to build subways”. A groundswell of support is the only way to prove otherwise — I’d say that a petition signed by 383,502 people would be poetically just, since Ford was elected by 383,501 votes.

  • Nick

    The engineer’s thoughts that “major, world-class cities don’t do light rail” (to paraphrase) are incorrect: There’s the Docklands Light Rail in London, the T4 Tramway in Paris, etc. I think the point should be made the major, world-class cities can have the confidence to have a mix of reliable transit appropriate for the demand in all parts of the city.
    He should also remember that most of the cities he mentions are fortunate to have “legacy” subway systems built prior to the advent of the motor car and labour regulations to pay people decent wages.
    And if Ford can figure out how to provide city-wide (not just north Scarborough-wide) subway coverage that Transit City would provide, then great. But I really don’t think this is going to happen due to the cost.
    I agree with @girlnext above: I don’t think Ford’s mandate was to build a subway to STC, rather it was to “stop the gravy train”. McGuinty was saying the same thing as Stintz was in Legislature according to my MPP.
    That’s why I was canvassing with this group on Saturday too at Yonge-Eglinton.

  • http://undefined Avrom

    Congratulations Adam! Montreal lost its streetcars 51 years ago.
    Ford want to gut transit without providing any serious alternative.
    He knows that Ottawa and Queens Park do not have any more money to fund subway construction. He is using the promise of subways as a stalking horse.
    In terms of the article in The Torontoist by Steve Kupferman on December 6, 2010 3:15 PM http://tinyurl.com/25jp7c5:
    DC, NYC and London, UK all had streetcars and they are making a comeback in all three cities. The engineer quoted is part and parcel
    of the Post WWII status quo. There is no war on cars. There
    certainly is a war on tramways and streetcar riders!

  • http://undefined mb

    Good to see the York Dept of history well represented!

  • http://undefined rek

    What good is the “right” solution if you can’t, and may never, afford it? What’s the point of cancelling the “wrong” plan if it doesn’t make the “right” a solution?
    Toronto does need subways, but not on Sheppard East! We need them downtown, going to the airport, and crossing east to west, not dancing off into the lowest density parts of the city.

  • http://www.michaeljeremybrown.ca/ Michael Brown

    But recall those maps of Ford support and compare those to where Lastman’s strongest supporters were located. Ford and Lastman are/were all about the inner suburbs…everything that Ford will do will always come back to: What’s in it for the inner suburbs?

  • thelemur

    Or that Washington isn’t implementing it.

  • http://undefined you

    The subway’s not a better option anyways, i don’t care what the engineer says. The subway skips entire residential areas between stops; warden to kennedy, kennedy to midland etc. It services far fewer people and would require people to take a bus to a station. At least with the LRT you can take Scar. RT to Shepperd and not have to walk 10 blocks to a get to a stop. I think the subway is a terrible plan.

  • http://undefined adamcf

    We’ve organized another canvass for this Saturday, December 11 from 1-3PM. This time we’ll be in the Malvern community. All the details are available on the Facebook event page: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=170766049622504

  • http://undefined rek

    Oh I know, but that just makes this plan worse.
    The inner suburbs do eventually need to be connected to the subway in a direct manner, as they are in London, Seoul, Melbourne, etc, but in expansion phases carried out only once the denser parts of the city have already been serviced. It’s ridiculous that Sheppard and the York Extension got approved, while we still debate the merits and details of a Downtown Relief Line and Crosstown Express.

  • http://undefined joelberg

    This is a big problem when you talk to an engineer from a different era.
    New York is swamped with budgetary problems and they haven’t even finished the 2nd Ave line yet which has been delayed for about a hundred years.
    To say that London doesn’t want Light Rail is laughable, as stated above they have embraced it.
    Toronto desparately needs some sort of campaign to say that LRT is NOT the same as streetcars. Christ to the average person the Eglinton underground portion IS A SUBWAY. It’ll have 3-4 car trains running in a tunnel, with the added bonus of not having to stop at stations where nobody is getting off or on. It’s also been budgeted by all forms of government.
    How can people be against this? Is going from Don Mills to STC really that much more enticing?

  • http://www.jakebabad.com Jake

    Incredible! This is why municipal politics is my favourite level of government – it always brings out the best kind of activism. It’s nice to be reminded every now and then that the average torontonian has more power than just the vote.
    Does me proud to my city up and at ‘em!
    I’m working on a book about Toronto, and I’m blogging about my attempts at self-publishing over at http://www.jakebabad.com