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Protecting Our Most Valuable Assets

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Illustration by Jeremy Kai/Torontoist.


I’m thinking about pulling all of my money out of the bank. It’s not that I’m worried about another economic collapse. I just have serious doubts that banks are interested in protecting people’s money. If you don’t believe me, just have a look around the next time you’re at your local branch—almost no one has a gun.
Banks in Toronto get robbed regularly, so why doesn’t every single branch have at least one armed guard? For all the potential of armed robbery, it’s rare to see an armed guard stationed at a local bank. Aside from the cost of armed security, the desire for comfortable customers, and the fact their money is insured, banks have another reason for leaving out armed guards at all their locations: they know that armed guards make a bank more dangerous than do unarmed ones.
Bank security is based in part on the belief that the more firearms you introduce into an aggressive situation, the more you expose involved parties to potential harm. The implication is that it’s better to get robbed than killed.
I wonder why our local schools and police force continue to contradict this principle by insisting that armed police officers need to be in Toronto’s public high schools.


We do not want young people to bring weapons, especially firearms, to school. An armed robbery at North Toronto Collegiate late last week is a reminder that some youths are still making this unfortunate choice. Even before the media had the correct details of the incident, some were already suggesting it is further evidence that we need armed police officers in our schools.
Initially, the Toronto Star incorrectly reported that the incident took place at Northern Secondary, a school that received plenty of attention last fall for an incident involving a Toronto Police officer stationed there. If past experience is any guide, now that we know the incident happened at a school without a stationed police officer we have to anticipate criticism of the school for its presumed negligence, as well as calls for an officer to be immediately installed at North Toronto Collegiate.
If the armed robbery had occurred in a school with a so-called student resource officer, would the outcome necessarily have been better for the victims? Is the possibility of stopping the theft of, in this case, two iPods, worth the risk of a shootout between a boy and a police officer in a school hallway? Would we accept the potentially fatal consequences of such a set-up, or justify unintended injuries to students or staff in the name of armed school safety?
A weapon in the hands of a police officer has potential to do great harm in a school environment, if for no other reason than the unpredictable nature of an armed conflict. The idea that we’d rather have gun-toting police in schools than gun-toting students is irrelevant. The very presence of any firearms only increases the likelihood that someone will get shot. Only a mythical last-man-standing mentality suggests we can intimidate, injure, or even kill anyone who threatens us without considerably damaging ourselves and our communities. This is not the kind of learning environment we want for our students.
The bank knows that customers who are distracted by the constant threat of violence can’t concentrate on giving up all their money. The bank knows that putting more guns in banks means more people will get shot in banks. They call it customer service.
We know that a student who is distracted by the constant threat of violence cannot learn. We know that the more guns are present in public schools, the greater the risk to the people in those schools and their communities. A firearm has no place in a school, even if it belongs to a Toronto Police officer. If a gun could guarantee the safety and growth of our most valuable assets, no bank would be without one.
A version of this article originally appeared on Desmond Cole’s blog, Cole’s Notes.

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  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    Seems like apples and oranges. I mean a robber goes into a bank with the intention of violently robbing the bank. Students go to school with the intention of going to school. Having a police officer in the school (not an armed guard and there is a HUGE difference) is intimidating. Students may think twice. A bank robber most likely wouldn’t care.

    Would we accept the potentially fatal consequences of such a set-up

    We have already accepted the consequences. When these incidents happen, rarely are the police scrutinized unless there are circumstances which don’t add up. Society as a whole seems pretty apathetic to a student showing up at school with a gun, myself included.

  • Cobalt

    Hmmmm, I would have to agree that this is apples and oranges.
    If someone brings a gun into a bank they are likely just using it as a tool to get the money and run, and would rather not shoot at someone.
    If someone is bringing a gun into a school then likely it’s more directly linked to wanting to hurt/intimidate others in the school for more personal reasons such as revenge.
    I don’t necessarily think there should be armed guards/police in schools, but I think the nature of the role of protecting people in that environment is different and perhaps it makes more sense. However, I can understand it making students uncomfortable.

  • http://undefined Green Sulfur

    Maybe I missed something in the news stories about the North Toronto incident but it sounded a whole lot like a straight up robbery rather than a revenge plot.

  • http://undefined Cobalt

    You’re right, this post is about an armed robbery incident in a school. I was just jumping the gun a bit thinking about the various situations over the years where guns have been brought into a school environment for the sole purpose of inflicting violence. Sorry not to be more specific in my tangent.

  • http://undefined mattalexto

    Seems to me that the only reason a student with a gun would feel it was necessary to shoot at a police officer would be if they were afraid that the police officer was going to shoot them.
    From the other side of the coin, do you really want a cop shooting a teenager? Ever?
    I do NOT see this as apples and oranges. The logic is the same, more guns means more bullets, means greater potential for people getting shot. That’s not something we want in a bank or a school.
    The greatest value of a security guard or police in a bank OR a school is as an observer. Someone who can spot and deter suspicious activity and provide reliable information leading to the arrest of a perpetrator of a crime. Cops in schools don’t need guns.
    Whenever I got close to a cop when I was a kid I could only stare at The Gun. We don’t want that to be the symbol of police do we? Isn’t it supposed to be a shield?

  • http://undefined Peter K

    I agree they don’t necessarily need guns, but they do need tools that will help them enforce the law. Face it, trying to reason with a teenager hooligan isn’t always going to be possible, so we have to let them have some other means at their disposal (pepper spray, tasers, etc).
    …and I think there are some instances where a cop shooting a teenage gangbanger in self defense or the defense of innocent bystanders is not a horrible thing.

  • http://undefined tithian

    I went to public high school in the US back in early 90s. My school was well known for being among the first to institute metal detectors and armed guards, despite no noteworthy cases of violence among the student body, and well in advance of the Columbine incident.
    The guards were little more than over-paid hall monitors, and the detectors were easily bypassed if you really wanted to cause trouble. It was very much like America’s current homeland security policy on a micro level: a futile, misguided waste of tax-payer money that only served to create tension, fear and nervousness.

  • http://undefined thelemur

    The level and type of security in banks now means that most robberies/thefts are inside jobs.
    School cops don’t bring any particular additional safety that couldn’t be achieved by calling the cops in in the event of an emergency.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    Statistics would say otherwise regarding police presence in schools reducing crime.

  • http://undefined Peter K

    Banks also don’t have to worry so much about having armed guards (although they do for transporting money) because any money stolen is:
    a) insured, and
    b) replaceable
    Kids are not.

  • http://www.guesswork.ca Patrick Metzger

    So wait, are the kids supposed to be the bank staff or the money in this analogy? Because that will determine whether we place them behind counters with silent alarm buttons at their feet, or just stick them in time-locked vaults until the end of the school day.
    Apples and oranges, like they said above. A bank is nothing like a school, and it shouldn’t surprise anyone that they have completely different approaches to security.

  • http://undefined Peter K

    Actually they’re the pens attached to the chains.

  • http://undefined s’rose

    An interesting mix of concerns here. Banks take care of themselves. Young people are at risk. I have three sons who all grew up in downtown Toronto. That meant their friends up north were not ‘allowed’ to visit them because ‘it is dangerous.’
    Cops in schools do not mean much. You have to see how they work everyday with teenagers outside school. If you are a teenager, your chance of being stopped by the cops is big. Triple that if you are not white.
    My son is walking the dog in our neighbourhood, a block from our house. He comes home and tells me that the cops turned on their big lights and turned on their big mike to ask him stop. They asked him for ID, what he was doing. He complied and he asked if there was some sort of reason they were checking people out, but no, it was just proceedure. As an angry mom, I collared a cop about a week later and asked him about this. He said ‘we like to get to know the people in the neighbourhood’. I told him he could do that by ringing my doorbell anytime.
    another moment. As a downtown kid, it is pretty certain that at some point you are going to be stopped by a bunch of guys who ask you to turn over your ipod, and whatever else. As a mom, you say to your kid, we should report this to the cops. Your kid says no, I don’t want anything to do with them. You call the cops. They come into your house and basically accuse your kid of being part of a gang, knowing the robbers. Complete fail for everyone.
    So if you want to talk about fear and security in downtown Toronto, I would ask an adolescent first. Kids know what is going down, and I doubt a police officer in the school really changes much. I do not believe my society needs to run on fear.
    sorry, but when it comes to kids and cops, I am on a rant. There is so much that needs to be done. Put some high school students on the police board. eh?

  • http://undefined MG

    I think you’re missing the point about SROs. I happen to teach at a TDSB high school in Toronto that has an SRO. The SROs are not there to police, monitor or guard anything. They are there to build meaningful and non-threatening relationships with the students. I’ll admit there is a good chance that teenagers and especially teenagers considered to be minorities are probably hassled more than they ought to be by most police officers, but this is certainly not the case within my school. If anything, I feel that our SRO is doing an excellent job of re-establishing what generally seems to be a dysfunctional relationship between police and teens. The students get to see a member of the police force coaching sports teams, presenting at assemblies; but what’s more is they get to walk up to the SRO and have casual, non-confrontational chats with a police officer, which helps them to trust these authority figures again. I have yet to hear one complaint from teacher or student at my school about our SRO. The thought of him being compared to an armed guard makes my skin crawl… In your article and as implied by the accompanying graphic you state that “a student who is distracted by the constant threat of violence cannot learn” as if SROs are walking through the halls waving their guns around or worse pointing them at pencil wielding students. I can tell you one thing: at our school the students do not feel threatened by the SRO; they feel protected. We would all hate to see him go–with or without certain parts of his uniform.

  • http://undefined s’rose

    Why is there an SRO, with a gun, in your high school? Do you have problems in your HS that need a gun for enforcement?
    I imagine that an SRO is not wearing a gun when coaching, or at assemblies.
    I am on your side. The relationship is frayed and not working and it needs fixing. I think your situation is the result of bad situation.
    Wouldn’t it be better if the cops accepted that work needs to be done, and started making it better, everywhere, not just in a HS, but out on the street? The police have done so much damage outside of HS and need to make it a priority to stop looking at a bunch of kids on the corner as a threat, and to see just a bunch of kids hanging out on the corner.
    In all of the US and Canada, the best funded police force is Toronto. I think our police can do better for our young people. Just like you, I care about kids. They deserve the best.

  • http://undefined Rishi

    This is ridiculous. If the presence of firearms, regardless of who’s hands they’re in, only serves to make a situation more dangerous, why bother having armed police officers at all? Why not just give all the criminals what they want? The implication made by this article is that it is safer for us to leave ourselves and our children at the mercy of armed criminals. That’s easy enough for banks – what’s in their vaults can be replaced. Their security is a business proposition and nothing more. I don’t know about Mr. Cole, but I place a little more value on my life.
    Besides, the entire article is based on a false premise – that because banks don’t have armed guards (and as we are all keenly aware, banks are infallible), then firearms are utterly useless. Little does Mr. Cole know, the reason why bank guards are not armed is simply that there is no provision under the Firearms Act for them to carry guns. The Firearms Act permits the issuance of an Authorization to Carry a Restricted or Prohibited Firearm for:
    a) protection of life
    b) use in one’s lawful occupation
    (section 20)
    The Firearms Act Regulations further define “lawful occupations” to be, among other things, those involved in the transportation of large sums of money (this is why Brinks, etc. are armed), but not guards at banks themselves. Mr. Cole may want to educate himself on the law regarding ownership and use of firearms in Canada before trying to extrapolate a vagary of the current legislation into a political manifesto on what should and shouldn’t happen in schools.
    This ideological unqualified opposition to firearms is senseless. Mr. Cole would likely say that firearms have no place in his home – yet I would bet my bottom dollar that the second there’s an intruder breaking down his door he’ll be scrambling to call for ARMED police officers.
    Firearms are tools. They can be used responsibly or destructively depending on who wields them. We as a society have ample evidence of life-saving ability of firearms in the hands of trained, qualified and responsible individuals. Mr. Cole may not believe it, but there are times when calling 911 just isn’t going to cut it.

  • Desmond Cole

    It’s likely lame to comment on your own work, but I’m going to take the liberty on my inaugural post to clarify something from the Toronto Star report.
    The four boys who were arrested were being monitored by the police hours before they were are alleged to have committed the robbery. The police reported the recovery of two iPods. I read no accounts of anyone being harmed.
    Presumably, the police did its job in this case without having an officer in the school. Those who suggest an officer would have improved this situation, or others like it, should make that case in light of the facts.
    It’s a thrill to be posting here – thanks for all the comments thus far.

  • http://undefined MG

    There is no reason in particular that the SRO was placed at our school. We don’t have any “problems in our high school that need a gun for enforcement”. The very fact that you used the word enforcement show that you posit SROs as people who are only in schools to enforce the law and yet this is something that our SRO rarely, if ever, does while at his job. I know it sounds crazy but the students find our SRO just as approachable as the kindest (unarmed) teacher and (I’m afraid to admit it) more approachable than any of the administrative team (including the principals, VPs and office staff).
    At first none of us liked the idea of having one. Our principal was perhaps the person most against it as he worried about the image it might give our school. Now, I think everyone sees the benefits of having our SRO–the fact that he happens to be armed does not factor into these benefits. So why not do away with the gun you might ask? It’s part of his uniform and let’s be realistic, youth will probably never encounter a police officer without a gun. They need to be able to know and trust that officer’s will not draw their guns unless they are absolutely forced to. A situation I don’t ever see happening at my school.
    I completely agree with you. We need more of these types of police officers, especially working on beats within proximity to high schools because as you said it is not enough to just have them working in a few schools. I think you’re right, this needs to be a more wide ranging initiative on the police department’s part if it is going to truly restore any amount of trust for our city’s youth. I say we put more SRO’s out in the streets. There needs to be more officers better trained to interact with these students who are no doubt at a pivotal and unique point in their lives.