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The TTC is Experimenting at Bloor-Yonge Station Like It’s 1984

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Since November 23 the TTC has been running an experiment at Bloor-Yonge station. The goal: to try to increase the subway line’s capacity during the morning rush hour (7 to 10 a.m.) by decreasing train dwell times (the amount of time a train sits in the station). During peak hours, passengers transferring from the Bloor line to the Yonge-University-Spadina line tend to cluster at north end of the station’s southbound platform, forming a bottleneck that delays trains. To spread the load, the TTC has erected temporary barriers between the platform and the southbound staircases that link the lines, placed workers in key positions to shift riders to the south end of the platform, and stationed staff at the train doors to direct traffic and ensure that people board in an orderly fashion. We visited Bloor-Yonge station on Thursday and were pleasantly surprised by the system’s efficiency: the setup was simple, the TTC workers were helpful, and overall, the station didn’t feel as congested.


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“Reducing the dwell time at Bloor-Yonge station will improve the performance of the Yonge-University-Spadina line dramatically,” Brad Ross, the TTC’s director of communications, told Torontoist. “It’s not about crowd control. It’s really just a test to see if we can manage passenger flow better…Prior to this test, the [dwell time] situation—due to bottlenecking at the north end of the platform—is about fifty-five seconds. The goal is to get that down to anywhere between thirty to forty-five seconds. If we can get another train on the line, that’ll mean less crowding on trains.”
We timed several trains on Thursday, between 7:30 a.m. and 9:30 a.m., and found that the average dwell time was about thirty-five seconds. According to City Councillor and TTC Chair Adam Giambrone (Ward 18, Davenport), each rush hour train carries about twelve hundred people, and Bloor-Yonge’s southbound platform handles approximately thirty thousand people an hour at peak times. So, even if the experiment only adds one additional train an hour, that’s still a potential capacity increase of 3–4%
The project’s promise even has transit guru Steve Munro impressed. “One of the most important things that they’re doing is the way they’ve divided the flow so the people coming off the Bloor subway come down the outside channel, and everyone who is going to the Bloor subway goes up the platform side, around, and down the far stairway,” he told us. “It gets rid of the plug at the north end of the station, and that’s as important as what’s happening on the platform.” But, until it’s tested in an emergency situation and by the increased ridership that follows the city’s first snowfalls, we really won’t know how well it functions, Munro also cautions.
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While most of the riders we talked to were content with the new procedure, not everyone’s happy. Angry tweeters have called the system everything from laughable to Orwellian, and some suggest that the experiment is actually making things worse. Giambrone was at the station on Thursday answering riders’ questions, and while some commuters expressed frustration, most of the anger was directed at the upcoming fare hike and at the TTC workers union. “I’ve heard nothing but negative feedback from all the riders I’ve spoken to,” Eli Bennett, a daily commuter, told Torontoist. “The perception is that this is going to be a high labour cost thing, and it’s the wrong time to be doing it because fares have just gone up, so it only adds to the frustration that people are feeling.”
We counted approximately thirty TTC workers and special constables on duty on the southbound platform. And while this number is excessive, both Ross and Giambrone assured us that it’s only temporary, and as passengers adjust, the number of staff will be reduced. For the duration of the experiment, only employees on alternate duties—those who are unable to do their normal jobs due to illness or injury—will be part of the project. These employees usually rotate through odd jobs, like helping load the King streetcar. If the experiment becomes permanent, then the TTC would have to hire more workers or rearrange its duty schedule. The special constables on the platform are those already assigned to the station.
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“What we have to do is take a look at the cost implications, and measure it against the gained capacity. It might be worth twenty to twenty-five salaries if you can get three-and-a-half [percent] more capacity,” Giambrone told us.
The rush-hour situation at Bloor-Yonge station is a classic case of self-interest triumphing over the greater public good. Passengers want to board as quickly possible, so they rush the train at the north end of the platform, and end up slowing the whole process down. The TTC’s experiment solves this collective action problem by applying new rules that force cooperation. And although the TTC doesn’t have any hard data yet, it looks like this traffic management system might become a regular fixture at Bloor-Yonge station. “Will we just go back to normal? Probably not,” said Ross. “After this test, we’ll probably look for some permanent type solution to allow this to continue on with a lot fewer staff.”
All photos by Joel Charlebois/Torontoist.

Comments

  • http://undefined Matthew

    I have a suggestion for improving the distribution of passengers in the Yonge-Spadina line. Put an LCD display up that is visible to passengers as they emerge from the Bloor line level which shows how many seconds until the train is due to leave. The display would black out when there is fewer than 15 seconds remaining, to prevent mad rushes. Whenever I come up from Bloor and see the train waiting there, I assume that it is about to leave. If I knew that I had 45 seconds before departure I would be more than happy to stroll down the platform and find a less crowded car.

  • http://undefined TokyoTuds

    We passengers need to cooperate with each other, especially during rush hour. I think this trial is a good idea, and some well thought out alterations to the platform should make it intuitively obvious. Possibly a barrier along the length of the last car, between the pillars, that allows only exiting passengers. This would require boarding passengers to walk further down the platform, and only double back if they really need to be on the last car.

  • http://undefined deadrobot

    Now can they do something about College Station? That puppy is getting hard to navigate too.

  • http://undefined canuck1975

    Am I the only one wondering if they got this idea from Dragon’s Den?
    http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/pitches/platformtechnology.html

  • http://undefined DJ

    I’ve never understood why people don’t walk further down the platform at Bloor. It takes roughly ten seconds to walk a few cars down and then you don’t have to deal with crowds and forty million people exiting the first cars.
    Also, you don’t have to jump in the front car if the train is in the station. Simply walk alongside until you hear the tell-tale sound of the train that indicates it’s getting ready to go, followed closely by the chimes. Then hop on.
    For my part, now that they won’t give me tokens, I’d rather see more staff accepting tickets as the entrance. I hate to squeeze in front of those paying for their fare at the booth but I also refuse to stand in line for 10 minutes so I can drop off a pre-purchased ticket. Bloor station has become ridiculous for this.

  • http://undefined Peter K

    I can’t argue with the concept. It really is amazing how lazy people are.
    I also have to agree with Matthew Harper in regards to Spadina. I’ve been on a train where half the people waiting can’t get on because they are all crammed at the very end of the platform. It boggles my mind why people can’t be bothered to walk an extra 30 feet to the second car.
    The first picture here is telling about the TTC and it’s operations though. Is it really necessary for four employees to be standing within an arms length of each other to get this done?

  • http://undefined sodapop

    I don’t think the problem is people not moving down to the end of the train. It’s the way that the station is designed. Right now the only thing that is guiding people to the end of the train are signs. Written instructions are a lot more passive than physical methods of crowd control.
    I always thought that the area of Bloor Station where people transfer from upstairs to downstairs was horrible. This experimental idea is great. It flows people in the right direction when they leave the train so that the stairs do not become dangerous to walk down when there are huge crowds. It also distributes people on the Bloor Danforth line platform by guiding them down to the other far stair that people hardly use.
    People should stop heckling the TTC’s most recent issues. The fare hike is not so great in a tough economy. But would you rather have a crowded, unsafe, public transport system? Efforts like this are evidence that the TTC is really trying hard to make the system better for everyone. Great job! People should not be heckling the TTC. We should be heckling the provincial and federal government for more funding.

  • http://undefined sodapop

    In addition – The fact that the crowding is still happening even with written signs just shows that people become lazier and less intelligent in larger crowds. So when you can’t change people, you have to change the design. Thanks for the effort TTC!
    My question is, if this experiment proves successful, where will the funding for the infrastructure changes come from? It’d be horrible to see orange pylons and yellow barriers become permanent fixures in the station.

  • http://undefined Andrew

    Trains usually make some kind of chug-chug-chug noise just before they’re about to close their doors and leave. I don’t know what the noise is … releasing the air brakes, maybe? Anyway, I know that if I’m up on the top level and I don’t hear the sound, the train isn’t going anywhere in a hurry, so I make my way down the platform.

  • http://undefined atomeyes

    take a good look at all of those pictures.
    too many (overpaid) employees, standing around appearing to do nothing.
    dirty looking subway stations.
    cheap signs.
    a station begging for a reno.
    add in the lovely pink railway-esque TTC uniforms and our transit system’s a running joke (when its running on time)

  • http://undefined Bubba

    Just another bad idea by the TTC thats not well thought out and a waste of time, the TTC could have resolved this when the station was renovated years ago but just like them to not have any vision or foresight that Toronto would grow and the use of public transit would grow also. I guess the next step is for the TTC is to charge customers a toll to walk through this maze of bad sign design!
    The TTC not the better way, just the lame way.

  • http://undefined DJ

    Tell-tale sound! That’s what I meant. That chug-chug.

  • http://undefined Jordan

    A think with a few walls, and a few additional gates this could be all be done with no additional staff. If you wall-in the eastern most stair so it leads to the south end of the southbound platform and add a few one-way turnstiles. Do the same for the western most stair, and you have a solution – no new staff needed.

  • http://undefined outro

    This experiment is a joke. A miniscule band-aid on a gaping wound. How about they experiment with some new subway lines, bigger platforms, more stairwells, or perhaps BETTER SERVICE?

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/15501706@N00/ sappletown

    The strategy the TTC is using is good, but its compensating for people’s stupidity. If commuters weren’t so stupid they wouldn’t have to waste time and money on projects like this and others. People are idiots, thats why they dont move down. They ride the train every day for years and still dont realize to move down, even when there’s time. They should just put up signs that say ‘Your an idiot if you don’t move down’. Saves money and time and would be extremely effective.

  • http://undefined outro

    Yeah, exactly. People can’t even figure out “walk left, stand right” so I don’t see how any of this will work in the long run without physical barriers/deterrents.

  • http://www.actsofminortreason.com/ Acting Minor Traitor

    Oh, yes, of course, why didn’t anyone ELSE think of that? Clearly the TTC has been holding back on the magic spell that will allow it to just wave a wand and speak the Downtown Relief Line into existence. Thanks to your wise comment I now know that the world works exactly like SimCity 2000, and subway construction is instantaneous, requires no digging or tunnelling or environmental assessments, and can be easily financed with the OIVAIZMIR cheat.
    Thank you, outro, for showing us the light! Whatever would we do without your sagacious wisdom?

  • http://undefined Alex

    I’m willing to bet that the people who are suggesting that the problems stem from lack of renovations are the same people who would have/will be writing letters to the Star complaining about the renos when they happen.
    I think this is a great idea and if they can find a way to implement it permanently, I think it’ll help the situation a lot. Good idea, TTC!

  • Robert Ruggiero

    According to Giambrone all of the employees are on loan from other areas of the TTC.

  • http://undefined Dragons Den Gal Nov 4

    In response to Canuck1975. Yes this is precisely my invention. I approached TTC July 2008, prior to their study, suggesting I have an idea and they themselves asked me to patent it and bring it back to them. A “subway barrier wall with enhanced passenger flow”, which is a “wall” made of any physical component that “separates passenger flow” for a single sided platform, first in the world.
    For over 100 years, it has been a “free for all”, chaos, push and shove and totally unpleasant. This is NOT TTC’s idea or solution. My description over 60 pages and having made 15 different prototypes making this not so simple. Yes everybody is right……a physical permanent barrier wall serving the purpose of separating passenger flow is the right answer. I wonder if TTC went and got “CSA” approvals on their dividers like they tried to suggest to me? What everyone does not know yet is, the building code Section 3 “Safety Requirements within Stations”, suggests a “non climbable” “guard” of protection maybe actually supposed to be installed on all new stations and renovated ones. Remember that “yellow line” renovation…..hhmmm. That’s a renovation in and near where safety ought to be?????

  • http://undefined vusa

    Giambarone is only about supporting the useless unions…even at the cost of higher fares..typical NDPer…
    While some TTC employees that I have met are efficient and do their job properly, many are lazy and useless. And there are way too many people working at the TTC and are overpaid for the job they do. No wonder the damn TTC is so bad. and to hire 30 people for this initiative. Its ridiculous.
    The streetcars are a mess – slow and whats with the bunching – especially on King and Queen..? Or even the Dufferin bus…How come you get none for 10 minutes and then 3 come together? With GPS tracking available nowadays..? Oh wait, they dont have money sob.. well hello it all goest to pay salaries (over 70% of the budget) leaving nothign for improvements.
    Stop hiring more and more employees at ridiculous wages. I am sure that there will be enough people willing to work at lower rates especially given the unemployment or even at minimum wage.
    The first step in improving the TTC is getting these damn politicians out of the TTC and appointing a fully empowered experienced CEO to run this rather an inexperienced people like Adam Giambarone -who is only trying to become Mayor and using the TTC as a vehicle to get the unions on his side. He’s such a fraud!

  • http://undefined vusa

    Correction – if its running !

  • http://undefined warmflash

    Informed sources say the last car of the subway has become a meeting place for young men. I went to the last car to see if this was true. It was packed with good looking guys. And only one woman.

  • http://undefined Solex

    Thank you, outro, for showing us the light! Whatever would we do without your sagacious wisdom?

    Solve every problem at the speed of light, because that’s what people/trolls like outro expect running a city to be like. Either that, or privatizing everything and hoping that will make life better in Toronto. Am I right, Outro?

  • http://undefined TTC_Operator

    As my handle suggests, yes I am a TTC Operator. Furthermore, I happen to be one of friendly TTC folks on the platform helping board the southbound trains.
    I’m not what you call a “company guy” but I can honestly say that this latest TTC experiment is actually working.
    Here are the concrete numbers:
    -as a result of the temporary barriers and platform attendants we have been averaging 4 extra trains per hour.
    - about 1200+ passengers per train X 4 = approx 5000 potential passengers per hour.
    -5000 X 3 hours (7:30-9:30) = an increased carrying capacity of 15,000!
    I think I’m a courteous and productive employee. Why must I be subject constant eye-rolls, shaking heads and well constructed & eloquent(under-the-breath)agruements such as “this is stupid”.
    Why is it stupid?
    Is it the fact that we’re moving more people?
    Is it that people are waiting less time for trains?
    Is it that the trains are less crowded?
    Are rhetorical questions as annoying to you as they are to me?

  • http://undefined Peter K

    Yes but Giambrone can’t even do simple things like figure out ongoing costs before expanding routes. This guy’s so inept he probably has velcro instead of laces.

  • http://undefined rek

    It’s stupid because it’s new and different and that makes it wrong and scary.

  • http://undefined Solex

    Excuse me, dufus, but aren’t they doing just that with Transit City?

  • http://undefined Solex

    You want people to work for minimum wage on the TTC? You must thing that people are that desperate or suicidal, or that unions are the work of the devil.
    Actually, I think that you’re batshit crazy, and heartless, as well as just being a plain, clueless troll about municipal issues.