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A Lesson on Blackface

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Illustration by Marc Lostracco/Torontoist.


We’re sure they thought it was a good idea at the time.
But intent was not the issue at hand as the University of Toronto Black Students’ Association hosted a town hall meeting on Tuesday, in response to the Halloween party hosted by three student unions on October 29 that saw a group of students—four students in blackface and one in whiteface—dressed up as the 1988 Jamaican bobsled team depicted in Cool Runnings. After one event organizer subsequently deemed the group as having one of the “costumes of the night” in a message sent to more than three thousand invitees on their Facebook page, Torontoist wrote about the costumes, and the fire spread from there.
The town hall meeting was part lecture, part discussion, as professors Melanie Newton, Arnold Itwaru, Cynthia Wesley, and Sean Hawkins joined speakers Rinaldo Walcott and Alissa Trotz, and over five hundred attendees at the Claude T. Bissell Building, for a discussion on racism and the history of blackface.


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French Vogue got itself in hot water this month when it posed supermodel Lara Stone in blackface.

“This is a teachable moment,” explained Alissa Trotz, encouraging students to continue the dialogue beyond the assembly on Tuesday night. “Are we going to commit to do the ongoing work that is necessary [to combat racism]?”
Trotz and her colleagues took the opportunity afforded by the town hall to educate the passion-filled, curious, and fervent students who clearly wanted a venue to have their voices heard. After a two-hour litany of speeches, student union representatives delivered their statements, expressing regret that the incident caused hurt.
“I believe it’s very important to shed a light to the history of blackface [and] I personally myself learnt so much from the speakers tonight,” said Francesca Imbrogno, President of the St. Michael’s College Student Union. “Many of us were unaware of what blackface was and it really was a shame that it took a couple of Halloween costumes to bring this issue to more people’s attention. We are eager to learn more about the history of this issue, and very apologetic that people were offended.”
Deryn Robson, the student commissioner who awarded the prize (and who previously apologized in the comments section of our earlier post), also made a statement: “I was not sensitive of the offense that these pictures could have caused…I take full responsibility for the [Facebook] message….I can only be extremely apologetic and reassure that this sort of thing will never happen again.”
While the speakers gave a full-throated explanation on why blackface of any type is unacceptable, it was clear during the subsequent open mic session that some students weren’t buying it. One woman wondered why it was okay to depict nuns during Halloween, even though it was offensive to her as a white, Italian, Roman-Catholic woman. Someone suggested that she start her own forum as well.
In fact, doesn’t the wonderful, post-racial, pat-ourselves-on-the-back-that-Barack-Obama-made-it-to-the-White-House-world we live in mean that we should be beyond this? If blackface is not acceptable, then why is dressing in drag? Where is the line drawn? Is Halloween forever doomed because of political correctness?
The group of students who had dressed up as the bobsled team explained:
“First and foremost we would like to apologize if anyone was offended…Throughout our childhood, Cool Runnings was something we reflected on with fond memories and therefore in the process [of] choosing Halloween costumes, seemed to be a promising candidate. With this idea in mind, we took notice of how the primary cast, consisting of four black characters and one white character, coincided with our group ratio of four white and one black member. This sparked the idea to add another comedic element to the costume, and have the black student go as John Candy and the white students going as the four bobsledders. At this point, several of us was already of aware of what blackfacing was and therefore took out various means of investigation to further our knowledge of the topic and ensure that what we were doing be doing may not be considered similar in anyway. The conclusion that we came to that simply painting our faces dark brown would not be a portrayal of blackface….understand that we did not act in a negative or stereotypical manner [at the party]. We acted ourselves the whole night, and did not internalize the characters.”
But with blackface, no matter how it is used, as Rinaldo Walcott explained, these arguments fall flat.
“I think that in particular [Cool Runnings] became a part of the popular culture imagination of [white] Canadians in a way that [they] took responsibility for that film as though it was somehow an extension of them. And one of the reasons that I think Canadians identified with that film so deeply is because that film weathered something that many white Canadians come to believe strongly—that black people don’t actually belong here. That we are an insertion into a landscape that is not actually an landscape where we naturally fit.”
“For black people who understand this history [of blackface], Cool Runnings was never a funny film; it in fact replicated all of the techniques of blackface. It is in fact one of the ways that we have come to see that blackface does not require painting of blackface anymore. Just look at the work of Marlon Riggs. We know that in North America there is a deep resonance around producing images of black people that make black people look disgusting. Cool Runnings is a milder version of that. So we should ask… why do they remember Cool Runnings so fondly?”

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Vaudeville performer Bert Williams, a black man, in exaggerated blackface makeup, circa 1921. Photo from Wikimedia Commons.


And that’s the point that BSA president Dawn Samuel wanted to make by hosting the town hall forum. “It is my hope that the majority of people in attendance understand the history of blackface,” Samuel stressed. “We must recognize while although this may not fit the archetype of historical blackface, manifestations of racism change and adapt to time. In light of that, we must recognize while although you may not identify an act or comment a racist, it does not negate the fact that it is, or could be.”
Intentional or not, the students who painted their faces black to resemble black movie characters were in blackface, and that’s an occurrence that seems to be more and more frequent in recent years. Some students argued that this wasn’t really that blackface, because they are simply darkening their skin. But one look at the deeply rooted and violent history of racism and blackface iconography is all it takes to understand that a white person painting themselves to depict a black person shouldn’t.
“How are we going to respond to this?” Trotz asked at the end of the tempestuous but ultimately civil and well-organized evening. Several professors noted that, unlike a similar incident at a Halloween party this year at Northwestern University, the University of Toronto did not send any deans or college presidents to attend. Plus, no official statements have been made by U of T, ultimately leaving the students to work this out on their own. University of Toronto Students’ Union representative Daniella Kyei told Torontoist that she was still pleased with the support of the administration so far, but hopes that they’ll get further involved.
“I’m satisfied thus far,” Kyei told us. “I’m happy that we had two equity officers here and one person from the Vice-Provost office in attendance….Would it be great to have [the administration] here? Definitely, because it would be an actual indication that the administration is taking a stance on this.”
Kyei will continue to liaise with the student unions and the Black Students’ Association as they work towards a common resolution, which—for the BSA—necessitates a printed apology in campus publications.

Comments

  • http://undefined davedave

    This “lesson” is stupid. The bob sled drunks weren’t in blackface.
    The picture of Bert Williams: THAT is blackface. THAT is offensive.
    It’s okay to dress up like a native Canadian or a nun or a geisha or a guy in a turban or Jesus or whatever the f*ck for laughs, but dressing as characters from a comedy movie who happen to be black is offensive?
    Ridiculous.

  • rek

    They didn’t do it to be racist, so I’m content to say it wasn’t racist.
    I’m surprised to see how far this went.

  • http://www.torontoist.com David Topping

    “I’m surprised to see how far this went.”
    Me too.

  • http://undefined jrturtle

    Indeed this whole fiasco is silly and the UofT Black Students Union really should think twice about throwing out accusations of “racism” in the future. Racism implies hatred, and as far as I can tell from this story, there was no hatred. The students who dressed up were in no way expressing *hatred* of black folks, so to label them as racist is unfair. Also, it’s interesting to note that in all of this discussion (albeit, I didn’t read all of the comments on the initial article), I don’t recall hearing any mention of the student who painted his face white as being racist.

  • http://undefined Usus

    Blackface is dressing as a caricature of a black person to accentuate negative stereotypes. That is not the same thing as a white person simply playing a specific black character or dressing up as a specific person of colour on Halloween. This is like Daryl Hammond imitating Jesse Jackson or Fred Armisen portraying Barack Obama. If you understand the history of Blackface, you will understand that this is not it.

  • http://undefined Vincent Clement

    Exactly. Why are these people even apologizing in the first place? No one was being racist. If someone is offended by this, that is their problem.

  • http://undefined davedave

    “Daryl Hammond imitating Jesse Jackson or Fred Armisen portraying Barack Obama.”
    This should end the ridiculous discussion once and for all. But of course, it won’t.

  • http://undefined Matthew

    Rinaldo Walcott demolished any credibility that he might have had on the subject by claiming that Cool Runnings is racist.
    A movie with Black protagonists in an inspirational movie about overcoming adversity is racist against blacks? A movie where all of the antagonists antagonize the heroes via racism is racist?
    There’s a story about a boy that cried wolf. I hope that story isn’t racist too.

  • http://undefined toronto_llb

    A few months ago, I snapped a photo of one of the popular Koodoo ads which featured caricatures of black cell phone users with exaggerated facial features reminiscent of blackface and Jim Crow.
    I sent it to Mr. Topping on the suggestion that the ads might be an interesting object case for just this sort of discussion. I included links to information about Jim Crow and wondered whether the readers of Torontoist might find the ads clueless or racist.
    I find it regrettable that he and others have now seen fit to seize upon the reputations of these young men to provoke this controversey.
    To be sure, it’s worthy to discuss current racial attitudes and the iconography of black representation, but it’s shameful and opportunistic to subject these students to future infamy when there were other objects available to form the basis of such discussion.

  • http://undefined Gloria

    If you were dressed up as a geisha and decided to tape back your eyes, yeah, I’d be offended. That’s the difference here.
    If these guys just dressed up as bobsledders and John Candy (clue: wear a giant parka), it would’ve been awesome. (Hell, they could have done a really great costume by including a cardboard bobsled, sticking a palm tree on the back, etc.)
    As for arguing that black skin is a central part of the costume, being *black* wasn’t the point of Cool Runnings, but the fact they were Jamaican (sorry if you can’t distinguish between race and nationality). The guys came from a small, tropical country with no history in winter sports. *That* was the humour. It would have been a totally different movie if it had been about a black Canadian bobsledder.
    Sorry. Intent counts, but so does ignorance. Because you don’t “hate” me, it’s OK to co-opt established racist behaviours for humour? I’m not going to think these guys are racist, but what they *did* is racist. If you can’t even fathom that sometimes actions you take can be interpreted in a greater context beyond *yourself*, you need to grow up.
    And please. Not being able to dress up as black bobsledders is not going to “forever doom” Halloween for anyone.

  • Karen Whaley

    Me three!

  • http://undefined mark.

    Some people interested in this complex issue might want to watch Bamboozled sometime.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215545/

  • http://www.bitpicture.com Marc Lostracco

    The issue as I see it is not a matter of throwing out accusations of racism, but addressing racial insensitivity based on history and context. I don’t think anybody is calling these guys racist; they’re just being accused of ignorance.
    The iconography behind blackface is rooted in racism, but where these guys were lacking was the knowledge that blackface, in any form, has the potential to offend. Go ahead: dress in blackface—but it’s probably not a good idea.
    For a white person who does understand the highly flammable potential of blackface and still chooses to do it then becomes a matter of judgment, despite your intentions. If you know people are going to get worked up, why do it unless you are intentionally looking for provocation, and especially provocation based in ethnic mimicry?
    And it’s not just blackface; nobody in their right mind and living in 2009 should be dressing up in the manner of Joe Jitsu from Dick Tracy, for example.
    Part of the privilege of the majority seems to be deciding what is or isn’t offensive to the minority, and what I’m saying is that it’s stupid to dress up as something that recalls painful stereotypes. If you don’t know, now you know. If you still choose to do it, you are then either a douchebag…or Sasha Baron Cohen.

  • http://www.bitpicture.com Marc Lostracco

    I’ve posted this link in the other article, but the costume could still have worked without even touching their skin or hair. Blacking your face and writing “Jamaican Bobsled Team” on your t-shirt is a weak attempt at a costume, and brings the focus more on the skin tone rather than, oh, a bobsled team with uniforms and a bobsled.

  • http://undefined Gloria

    “Also, it’s interesting to note that in all of this discussion (albeit, I didn’t read all of the comments on the initial article), I don’t recall hearing any mention of the student who painted his face white as being racist.”
    No, I see no difference there. I think it’s lazy and tasteless.
    I’m still surprised how many people say it’s not racist because the participants didn’t think it was, or because it wasn’t hateful. (So sweet to know I can *think* things into being something else!)
    A lot of people didn’t think they were “hateful” when they thought black people needed their own schools or their own fountains. They simply thought that was the way it was. They thought blacks just weren’t the same as white people, and shouldn’t be treated the same. And that was that.
    A more contemporary analogy — a lot of people don’t think they’re homophobic. They might even have gay friends or co-workers. But they don’t think gays should be able to marry or adopt children.
    A more personal analogy — I don’t *hate* dogs, but I definitely wouldn’t let one eat off my plate.

  • http://undefined Mark

    Comedy is rarely about playing it safe and inoffensive. Making four white dudes and a black guy into four black dudes and a white guy is hilarious.
    LOLs achieved and no actual black people were harmed in the making of the costumes. That’s all I care about.

  • http://undefined wesshepherd

    Was the black student dressed as John Candy discussed in a town hall meeting of the White Students Union? Nah, didn’t think so.
    It’s a shame that such a thing as the BSU should exist. What’s the problem with just having a Students Union for everyone? Or is that a naieve question, some 50 years after racial barriers started to be broken down?
    Be prepared for next Hallowe’en, when there will be protests against Darth Vader-Face, Spiderman-Face and the disgraceful toddlers in Teddy-Face

  • http://undefined wesshepherd

    Sorry–”naive question”—

  • http://undefined davedave

    “If you were dressed up as a geisha and decided to tape back your eyes, yeah, I’d be offended. That’s the difference here.”
    -Yeah, because that’s ridiculing the features of an Asian person. Which, by the way, is what makes blackface offensive. These costumes did nothing of the sort.
    -You are correct: their execution of the idea was fairly lame. But not everybody is a master at constructing costumes like you apparently are.
    “sorry if you can’t distinguish between race and nationality”
    -This is stupid. The issue is whether or not these drunkards putting makeup on their faces to appear black is blackface, and therefore offensive. That the black characters they are portraying are Jamaican is entirely irrelevant. All they did was change the colour of their skin. They didn’t exaggerate their features. They didn’t sing Mammy.
    -congratulations on understanding the plot of Cool Runnings. The plot of the movie is irrelevant to the issue at hand.
    Why don’t you go to the Mexico and protest Pedro Negro or go to the Netherlands and protest Zwarte Piet. And while you’re at it, have every copy of The Party gathered in a big pile and then you can set it on fire. You can dance around it and have a nice time.
    Context is everything. And you don’t have a clue.

  • http://www.guesswork.ca Patrick Metzger

    Here’s my thought – be offended when something actually causes harm, not because it’s vaguely reminiscent of some nasty historical oddity that only fans of early 20th century music hall comedy, nostalgic racists, and the perpetually oppressed give a damn about.
    Now I’m going to go write an angry email to General Mills – my ancestors didn’t get murdered, starved, and booted off their land so I would have to face that hideous racist leprechaun every time I want a bowl of Lucky Charms.
    (Cross-posted from a Facebook thread, but I felt it deserved a wider audience)

  • http://undefined wesshepherd

    Damn those Leprechauns! Nicely said, also.

  • http://undefined wesshepherd

    And while I’m correcting typos, “BSA” not “BSU”.

  • http://undefined wesshepherd

    There are many people, black people, who believe that they should have their own school, and it’s in Toronto. And they think that black children shouldn’t follow the same curriculum and white children. Does that make them racist?
    The dog analogy doesn’t work. They do have germs, which is why they shouldn’t eat off your plate, whether you hate them or not. That has nothing to do with a race or sexuality discussion; you’re heading into cross-species bigotry territory now.

  • Kimahli Powell

    The gentlemen who was dressed as John Candy was in attendance and addressed the audience with the other students who participated as the Jamaican Bobsledders.

  • Kimahli Powell

    gentleman (corrected).

  • http://www.guesswork.ca Patrick Metzger

    I would let a dog eat off my plate, but not if he were in blackface.

  • http://undefined HooperX

    Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy trilogy. Bust this: Those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down, even in a galaxy far, far away. Check this shit: You got cracker farm boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy, blond hair, blue eyes. And then you got Darth Vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, Nubian god!
    Vader, he’s a spiritual brother, y’know, down with the force and all that good shit. Then this cracker, Skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he’s gonna run the fuckin’ universe; gets a whole clan of whites together. And they go and bust up Vader’s hood, the Death Star. Now what the fuck do you call that?
    Gentrification! They gon’ drive out the black element to make the galaxy quote, unquote, safe for white folks. And Jedi’s the most insulting installment! Because Vader’s beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man! They tryin’ to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white!
    (Sorry… Somebody had to say it)

  • http://undefined Gloria

    I’ve heard it argued that dogs have cleaner mouths than we do. Still, sure, you can strike it off the record; I’ll withdraw that analogy.
    “There are many people, black people, who believe that they should have their own school, and it’s in Toronto. And they think that black children shouldn’t follow the same curriculum and white children. Does that make them racist?”
    Sorry, but is there anywhere that says that white children (or other races) can’t attend the Afrocentric school that’s been set up? Will the curriculum be demonizing other races in order to get its pro-black material across? I’d like to see examples.
    I’d also like to say that I’m tired of white/black being the only apparent groups in existence when it comes to discussions of racist. White is not the binary opposite of black, despite whatever they taught you in art class. Asian, Hispanic, and other races exist too.
    And no, I don’t think that kind of school is appropriate funded by tax dollars. I think the public curriculum serves everyone just fine. If you want a specific kind of education for your kids, either take your kid out of the public system and pay for a private education, or stay and supplement with your own additional teaching.
    That said, I’m not sure what your point is. And so if some black people have racist beliefs, it’s OK for some white guys to dress up as black people?

  • http://undefined Gloria

    “Yeah, because that’s ridiculing the features of an Asian person. Which, by the way, is what makes blackface offensive.”
    I don’t see how painting your face dark and taping back your eyes are different. One is “ridiculing” and the other is what … merely imitation? So taping back your eyes can’t ever be just “imitation” of an Asian person? You really can’t hear someone saying, “I just was pretending to be Asian, not hate Asians”? I mean, how ELSE is everyone going to know you’re supposed to be Asian? Honest question.
    “You are correct: their execution of the idea was fairly lame. But not everybody is a master at constructing costumes like you apparently are.”
    Riiight. I guess that’s an insult or something. I’m good at Halloween costumes!
    “The issue is whether or not these drunkards putting makeup on their faces to appear black is blackface, and therefore offensive. That the black characters they are portraying are Jamaican is entirely irrelevant.”
    I pointed out the plot of the movie because it’s relevant to how they decided to fix up their costumes. They decided the most important part was that they appeared black, rather than Jamaican or bobsledders.
    “All they did was change the colour of their skin. They didn’t exaggerate their features.”
    Sorry? Changing your skin colour from pale to dark is an “exaggeration” in itself.
    “They didn’t sing Mammy.”
    You’re nitpicking. Remember my example of taping back eyes and you agreed that was offensive, despite no context provided? Well, apparently you thought it was offensive even if I didn’t starting turning my R’s into L’s or speaking through a pair of fake buckteeth and imitating Mickey Rooney from Breakfast in Tiffany’s. But you got a good enough gist of what I was doing to feel I was invoking something dated and tasteless.
    “Why don’t you go to the Mexico and protest Pedro Negro or go to the Netherlands and protest Zwarte Piet. And while you’re at it, have every copy of The Party gathered in a big pile and then you can set it on fire. You can dance around it and have a nice time.”
    Right? I have no idea what you’re talking about. It does give me a clue that there’s no use debating with someone like you since you can’t stay on topic without making up weird hypotheticals.

  • http://undefined thewatchmaker

    There’s a difference between intent and content, though. One can easily say/do something that is racist in content without having the intent of saying something racist.
    But it’s also worth pointing out that ignorance is itself a race-based privilege. People who have historically been the victims of racism can’t be unaware of the history of racist ideas and images, whereas white people need not be familiar with the history of racism in the least. Which means, of course, that the privileged unknowingly reproduce the sins of that history all the time.
    The guys in costume may not have been trying to offend anyone, but they did a good job of demonstrating how racism works on a systemic level.

  • http://undefined Gloria

    I guess my point was that I just think dogs are kind of dirty (despite whatever dog owners say). Similarly, some races in some cultures are seen as “dirty” — connected to the idea of separate fountains for whites and blacks. I was also thinking of untouchable castes in India and Japan.

  • http://undefined Gloria

    Lucky Charms are gross. Just saying.
    But yes, I’m also saying that the Irish are gross.

  • http://undefined thewatchmaker

    “Was the black student dressed as John Candy discussed in a town hall meeting of the White Students Union? Nah, didn’t think so.”
    It’s categorically different. Since the colonization of Africa began, white people have caricatured black people, and those exaggerated physical differences (which weren’t read as ‘difference’ in a neutral way, but rather as deformity or monstrosity) were intended to stand analogically for differences in intellect and morality, as well. That’s the history that blackface comes out of.
    But seizing on the John Candy costume isn’t persuasive because there is no analogous tradition of blacks comically misrepresenting the whites that they enslaved and oppressed. Or a history of blacks misrepresenting white in general.
    “What’s the problem with just having a Students Union for everyone?”
    Representative bodies for entire populations tend to reflect the interests of either the majority demographic or the dominant demographic. This is why our federal Parliament has always had a disproportionately large number of wealthy white men. So-called ‘special interest’ groups are needed because, otherwise, those wealthy white men would only ever hear what other wealthy white men thought needed to be done. And the same thing is true of student unions.

  • http://undefined Gloria

    All right, all right, I got this:
    “That the black characters they are portraying are Jamaican is entirely irrelevant.”
    No. Like I pointed out, it was funny because they’re Jamaican, because native Jamaicans generally know jack shit about bobsledding because it doesn’t snow there. Doesn’t snow there. Got it?
    Not because they’re black, because I’m pretty sure black people can bobsled if they have the talent and are trained properly (per the movie).
    The fact that the characters were black in the movie is technically not relevant, just coincidence because most Jamaicans are black. Which is why these guys’ costumes were so shitty, and so very awkward. The movie would have been equally awkward if it invited you to laugh because the characters were black, instead of just comically unprepared.
    Example: If you dressed up as a samurai, you’d wear a sword and armour because those are the *defining characteristics* of a samurai — not slanted eyes.
    And even if you were really really lazy and cash-strapped, you’d admit it’d be a big mistake to go to a party with a “I am a samurai” sign and taped-back eyes. Right?
    Anyway, I’m kind of appalled by some of the views here, but it’s still interesting to hear. I love debating shit like this.

  • http://undefined Gloria

    I guess the problem here is that you seem to think (correct me if I’m wrong) that “offended” pretty much means “freakin’ furious letter-writing campaign/boycott.” Not true for me.
    I can be offended if someone uses “gay” as a slur. I can be offended if somebody cuts in line in front of me. Hell, I’m a little offended if somebody thinks Sugar Crisp is gross, in the same way I can’t stand Lucky Charms.
    Same here. I’m offended, but thanks, I know where it belongs. It belongs in a debate on a blog, which is where I am. If there’s any place *more* inconsequential, I don’t know it. I think I’m reacting proportionately.
    If you can truthfully say that you never get fired up (and not necessarily in anger) by debate, then sir, you are one chill person.

  • http://www.bitpicture.com Marc Lostracco

    “There are only two things I can’t stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other people’s cultures, and the Dutch.”
    –Nigel Powers

  • rek

    The black guy with them evidently didn’t think his friends were being racist.
    They weren’t making fun of black people, they were dressing up as four specific people who are black. They didn’t do it in black face style (makeup exaggerating the size of the mouth, etc), and they didn’t imitate stereotypical mannerisms or behaviours or lampoon Jamaican culture. It may remind certain people of black face, but that obviously wasn’t what these guys set out to do.
    Being reminiscent of black face doesn’t make it black face.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    I see one huge flaw in your reasoning in wearing a geisha costume. It’s obvious what you are trying to be. Asians have a rich and developed culture, so wearing the dress would be enough.

  • http://undefined spacejack

    Well since you enjoy getting offended so much, you should be thanking those guys for dressing up the way that they did.

  • http://www.guesswork.ca Patrick Metzger

    I mostly just like to argue.
    However, my overall view is that just because something offends you (or me or my dog or Rush Limbaugh) is insufficient reason to explicitly or tacitly stop people from doing it.
    Let’s face it; moral or ethical judgement is a popularity contest. There’s no reason besides climate and aesthetics that we (the collective we) shouldn’t be naked in public, but we as a society have decided that’s not the direction we want to go in.
    In this case, most of us have moved past worrying about stuff that is not only intended to be but genuinely is harmless. If the average African-Canadian doesn’t immediately identify lousy comedy with the sorry history of anti-black racism, I’d call that a step forward. Meanings change with time, and it’s a damn good thing.

  • http://undefined torontothegreat

    Also to add, they were portraying a group of Black males who are revered in both pop culture and their country. Usually when you go for the racist angle you don’t portray the ‘best of show’.

  • http://www.bitpicture.com Marc Lostracco

    What?! The imagery behind Pedro Negro/Black Peter/Zwarte Piet is protested constantly, even if it is still part of many “traditional” celebrations. Blackface is, unfortunately and frequently, exhibited under a different historic context in the Netherlands, but Zwarte Piet is a servant of Sinterklaas (i.e. Santa), and is often supernaturally explained as a mean, mischievous black devil. Recent attempts to dull the iconography say that he got that way from climbing down sooty chimneys, but the origins of the myth say otherwise.
    Proponents of preserving Zwarte Piet imagery say that it’s all in good fun and it’s a matter of Dutch tradition, but that’s also what they said about minstrel shows.

  • http://undefined Brittnee

    BREAKING NEWS: College kids do something offensive, more at 11.

  • http://undefined cprincipe

    Every once in a while when I feel wistful for my University of Toronto days, something like this pops up to remind me of how petty people can be when trying to be politically correct. It’s ridiculous that so much time and effort is being devoted to castigating four (five?) university students.
    There are some people who are too easily offended.

  • http://undefined lunarworks

    The Koodo ads, while truly hideous, aren’t necessarily racist. On its own, the one with the black kid may appear racist, but next to others, with whites and asians, all with the exact same exaggerated features, it shows that there was no racism.
    I suppose they could have excluded black people from the ads to avoid offending anyone, but then they’d be accused of excluding black people…

  • http://undefined Student

    There are some people who either forget or do not realize that we live in a latent racist society. It may even be difficult for someone who has never experienced racism to understand why people might have been offended by what the U of T students did; and not everyone is offended. It is more an issue about respect and less about freedom-to-do-as-we-please. Every individual has the right to express themselves but Toronto is a diverse society and if people do not recognize that there are some things, if done that can hurt other people, than they have chosen to be ignorant of it.
    Skin color is still a sensitive issue for a lot of people, and it is not a realistic assessment to suggest that we have overcome racism. There are many things that have outraged the citizens of Toronto; but for some reason when someone is upset or offended by something that relates to race/ethnicity, they are told that they are overreacting. If we ignore public disrespect for race/ethnicity, we demonstrate that we don’t care and this will lead toward more overt displays of intolerance.

  • http://undefined pat

    someone please answer a simple question here.
    BSA (Black students association) is acceptable but if we tried to start WSA (White students association) we are now racist or white supremacists.
    I find the very need for a BSA to be offensive as a white guy but i don’t find it racist. Should i demand an apology? No but i think having BSA and associations like it are well keep this color differential alive and well and it’ll never be a thing of the past until we all see that we are all the damn same
    I see no issue here. It’s the black community who blow things way out of the water which keep racism alive. Some in the black community clearly only see black and white. To me you are all the same. You can be my brother or my best friend. I don’t see color. To this matter i am color blind and until everyone who keeps crying racism stops it’ll never end.

  • http://www.bitpicture.com Marc Lostracco

    Translation: “I don’t see colour, but those black folks sure are always complaining about all us white folks, amirite? I’m colourblind, but I wish those black folks would just shut up because I treat everyone equally and they’re the ones who keep shoving it down our throats!”
    Why would you need to start a White Students’ Association? What would it be for? Celebrating the history of white people being victimized by oppression, degradation, powerlessness and violence that still reverberates to this day? I’m serious—what would you see happening a WSA meeting?
    Nobody is stopping you for trying to start a WSA, by the way. I’d be curious to hear how that turns out, but I’ll go out on a limb and predict that it would be another Bad Idea™.
    As the saying goes, the essence of white privilege is not realizing you have it.

  • http://undefined pat

    It was more of a laugh out loud kind of thing. WSA is a completely stupid idea and I believe with every bone in my body that the BSA is just as stupid.
    I truly do not care what it’s purpose is. To me I see it separate the blacks from the “colored folk” (us) that’s how I see it. What need is there for the BSA at U of T or anywhere for that matter. It creates a separation from different colors and cultures.
    I hear so much about dissolve the CRTC these days maybe it should be about dissolving the BSA. As long as “groups” like this exist us regular folk will always be racist without even….. well being racist.
    Just my 3 cents. I’m sick and tired of hearing about these communities making a story out of nothing just to slam a tag on in and label it “an insult to our race”

  • http://undefined McKirstie

    People are too quick to say that something they find offensive is racist. Nothing about their costues implied they thought themselves superior to Jamaicans or black people. I, too, am surprised at how far this has gone.