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NOW Paging Jesse Brown

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This week, NOW Magazine called out Jesse Brown, of TVO’s Search Engine, over comments Brown made on Monday night at SaveOurNet.ca’s Open Internet Town Hall meeting at the Gladstone Hotel. If you missed our coverage of the net neutrality event, here’s what Brown said: “NOW Magazine, Rabble.ca, the absent Mrs. Chow—is it necessarily a good idea to align net neutrality with the far left in Canadian politics? I can see it just as easily being a right-wing free market libertarian issue…why don’t we keep net neutrality neutral and put up a big tent, and everybody who cares about it can get under?”
Upset, Josh Errett, who helms NOW‘s Twitter feed (and who edited Torontoist back in the day), tweeted: “Excuse me, but what the F are you talking about with this net neutrality neutral song-and-dance?” Brown could have probably made his point at the meeting without singling out NOW, but the comment shouldn’t have been taken as an insult: all of the media outlets at the event were left-leaning, and Brown was merely questioning whether the left’s prominence in the movement was damaging its broader reach.
Throughout this week, Brown and NOW traded barbs regardless, until, on Thursday, Errett went a step further and wrote an article accusing Brown of “pointing fingers” and then running away. To which Brown tweeted: “*sigh* Must I feed the troll?” Brown’s been silent since, while Errett’s (and, transitively, NOW‘s) frustration has been only growing. Replying to another Twitter user who called out NOW‘s “bad form” in the “poorly thought out twitter fight,” Errett wrote: “You shouldn’t go to a packed event, stand up and make accusations, then refuse to answer for it. Twitter or no, it’s lame.”

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  • http://philnelson.name Phil Nelson

    Er. I’m confused as to who was accused of what.

  • http://www.bitpicture.com Marc Lostracco

    Brown: I’m concerned about the net neutrality movement’s alliance with the far left (like media sponsor NOW) instead of getting speakers and sponsors demonstrating a neutral middle ground.
    Errett: OMG WTF! We’re a media sponsor but have nothing to do with anything!
    Brown: —
    Errett: Answer me! I must write an article for NOW and call you out publicly for this outrage!
    Brown: You’re trolling.
    Errett: Well, what am I supposed to do?! You won’t answer my calls, you change your number. I mean, I’m not gonna be ignored, Dan!

  • Karen Whaley

    Egg, meet face.

  • http://www.RohanJayasekera.com/ Rohan Jayasekera

    It seems clear to me that both Brown and Errett are genuinely looking to advance the discussion of Net Neutrality. So how did such a mess occur?
    I think the problem is rooted in the nature of the event. The roster of speakers was slanted, but the event was labelled a “Town Hall”. I pointed out the discrepancy on the event’s Facebook page and asked that the event be renamed, but my comment was deleted by an administrator. The organizer later suggested that I go and see for myself just how open the event would be, but I knew what to expect.
    Brown noticed the leftward tilt of the event and asked a good question, resulting in a reaction (justified or not) from Errett. If the event had been balanced, as Errett clearly wishes it had been, there wouldn’t have been such a tilt and the fight wouldn’t have started in the first place. We need thoughtful people like Brown and Errett to contribute to the discussion of Net Neutrality issue, but it may not happen as long as the conversation is controlled by those who don’t understand what “neutral” means.

  • http://undefined Paul Kishimoto

    I made the same comment on earlier Internet Fight coverage (by TETCB): The Internet is SRS FRCKN BSNS.
    …even though Torontoist covers these twit-for-t(…no)ats with characteristic clarity and wit, the subject is still at least once removed from anything worth caring about.
    There are people saying substantive things about net neutrality in Canada, among them (my hero Michael Geist. I also needn’t point out that there is ample room between Slashdot’s U.S.-centric and tech-heavy coverage and the even-grandma-gets-it oversimplifications of the major dailies for Torontoist to develop compelling stories.
    Microblogging certainly can influence and draw people into public debate, but please don’t forget that no issue of real import will ever be resolved in under 140 characters.

  • http://undefined juepucta

    Those annoyingly nostalgic old hippies at Now are becoming more irrelevant with each passing minute.
    Brown is, as usual, doing a hell of a good job when it comes to digital technology issues.
    Now, if tofu and bikelanes are not involved, shut up.
    -G.

  • http://undefined rek

    Gossiptastic.

  • http://undefined Sam Davies

    Seriously Rohan…
    Do all Bell employees have such misguided fantasies that they try to pass off as fact/truth? Based on the comments I’ve read from you, I’m beginning to think that you must have had some influence with the Bell marketing/propaganda dept!
    In any case – thanks for the BS explanation of “the mess” that happened at the event.
    Question – Were you even there? I don’t seem to recall seeing you.
    With great irony, you point your finger with accusations of bias, while your vantage point is also immensely skewed. “The organizer later suggested that I go and see for myself just how open the event would be, but I knew what to expect.” Of course you did! ;)
    No offense, but you seem to suffer from strange delusions of clarevoyancy. In the previous post, you claimed to speak on behalf of the majority of internet users. Now, we are treated to your thrilling analysis of the cause of this squabble, where you actually can foresee an alternate reality had things been shaped differently. Do you also see dead people?
    Feel free to share your views and argue your points, but do refrain from falsely speaking for people on their behalf.
    In any case….
    While I do not have any opinion on the cause and effect of the squabble, I do have to agree with the point that Jesse raised. I believe that Net Neutrality is an important issue that concerns all Canadians, and that it should not be mixed in for political gain.
    At present, Canadian partisan politics is at a shameful low point. These MP’s act more like animals than intelligent individuals. It would be a shame to have this tied into some BS ideologically-false battle.
    With that said, I do highly respect the honourable Charlie Angus for all the attention and work he has done to raise awareness on this issue. I would hate for his hard work to go to waste simply because he will be falsely identified by some as a leftist nutter.
    Who needs facts when one can sense their own truthiness?

  • http://undefined montauk

    no issue of real import will ever be resolved in under 140 characters.

    If you end up a successful business or political leader, fifty years from now when international warfare is carried out on Twitter they’re gonna dig that up when they write their smug retrospective pieces about how fatally dismissive we were of microblogging. Think about it; what good is your opulent hovercar lifestyle when your own wikipedia entry makes fun of you. Don’t make the same mistakes I did.

  • http://undefined GoogleFreak

    Rohan is a troll nothing more. He supports corporate greed nothing more.

  • http://undefined joeclark

    Joshua “Reign of” Errett continues to demonstrate why he merits community shunning. But he’s perfect for the institutional environment of Now. He reminds Michael Hollett of a younger, shorter-haired version of himself, only in this scenario Errett gets to be as nasty in his 20s as Hollet is now.
    Jesse Brown, however, cannot argue his way out of a paper bag.

  • http://undefined montauk

    And between the two strides Joe Clark, hands on hips, upper lipped curled, smelling of old cigars and musk and the slightest hint of peppermint, cool and unaffected. His leather pants stretch tightly across his hips; he flicks a single glance – the eyes of a maverick, cold and appraising, yet backlit with resolute determination – at the women who pause as he passes. They are held rapt – nay, hostage – by his commanding demeanor of unfaltering assurance, but they are intrigued by the wildness they sense bristling beneath each meticulously controlled muscle, every tensed ligament. They know he has the restraint of a trapped thing, like a hawk perched on a sodden branch, waiting for a storm to pass – but the untouched power of one who eyes that gale with both rage and hunger. He knows that many men hate him and many women fear him, yet always on his lips hovers the early creases of half-smile – he looks up, casually, at a pair of squirrels, and for a moment he seems like any other man – quiet, self-effacing, docile. But when he turns an imperious eye, barking a damning bit of criticism to the huddled, babbling masses, a shaft of sunlight falls on his venerable jaw and we see him in all his refined and ageless glory. “That man,” a father whispers to his child, who forgets the ice cream cone and stares after the receding figure, “is Joe Clark.”

  • http://undefined mrtunes

    was this blog post in english?

  • http://undefined andrew

    Wow. Now that’s a cranky grandpa I’d like to have.

  • http://www.RohanJayasekera.com/ Rohan Jayasekera

    I’m not speaking on anyone’s behalf but mine, and I left Sympatico over a decade ago. My comments about the nature of the majority of Internet users are based on fact.
    Net Neutrality *is* a political and ideological issue. Claiming that it isn’t just shows strong bias. When a “Town Hall” meeting invites only speakers on one side, yes, I do know what to expect.

  • http://undefined mdwebb

    best. reply. ever.

  • http://undefined Paul Kishimoto

    Case in point, montauk: This is a lot more fun than “lol joeclark u suk kthxbye” could ever be.

  • http://undefined andrew

    i ought to report you! “what good is your opulent hovercar lifestyle”?!! if you can’t figure out what you did wrong in that sentence…