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Red Rocket Rocks It

It’s only been a few days since it launched, but Red Rocket has already proven itself an essential app for any iPhone and iPod touch owners who call Toronto home and call the TTC their ride.
Using transit data provided by the excellent MyTTC.ca, Red Rocket—created by software developer George Talusan and graphic designer Hilary Street—provides a comprehensive set of TTC gadgets, from schedules to maps to service advisories to stop times to GPS-powered nearest stop location, all tucked away in a slick and smart interface. (Everything is there but the kitchen sink and a trip planner; a walkthrough and some screenshots are above, a closer look below.) Talusan tells Torontoist that he and Street made Red Rocket because they “wanted to create a fully featured transit application that appealed to a wide range of TTC riders: from commuters to people visiting the city to hardcore transit buffs.” That’s exactly what they’ve done, and, at $1.99, they’re selling it for less than the cost of a single adult ticket.


Red Rocket is not the first iPhone application of its kind, but it’s almost certainly the best: another program called iTTC has been around for more than a month now, but it’s nowhere near as robust, feature-rich, accurate, or pretty as Red Rocket is. (For what it’s worth, iTunes users seem to agree: they’ve given iTTC an average rating of one-and-a-half stars and Red Rocket four-and-a-half.)
Red Rocket iconThe key to Red Rocket’s success is the data underneath it all, just as it was for Kevin Branigan and Kieran Huggins’s MyTTC. Red Rocket likely couldn’t have existed at all without the work and generosity of Branigan and Huggins: it’s their database of nearly two million stop times that Talusan and Street have built the application on top of, a database they happily surrendered even as the MyTTC creators were working on a separate iPhone app of their own (it makes sense, given that MyTTC.ca was created “out of a desire for free, open access to transit data”). Huggins admits that “it may be a while now” before MyTTC’s iPhone app is out, “especially since there seems to be no rush now”; he bought Red Rocket “very shortly after it came out” and has “been impressed so far.”
Talusan still hopes that MyTTC’s creators will make an application of their own, and that that application will include their trip planner. Its lack in Red Rocket is noticeable, but not insurmountable; with the program’s GPS, its integration with Google Maps, and its stellar search capabilities, it’s not difficult to use the program and the iPhone’s existing features combined with common sense—choose subways over surface routes, buses over streetcars, frequent schedules over infrequent ones—to go your own way. Trip planner or no, Talusan is the first to admit that Red Rocket isn’t perfect. (“There are still some kinks that need to be ironed out.”) Among those kinks: the program stalls every so often while it hunts for a route, and it resets itself to the Favourites page if you close the application and go to another program (like, say, Google Maps), rather than returning to the screen you were at before you changed programs.
But there are more than enough goodies to make nearly every TTC user gleeful. Because the program’s database is included with it, for instance, Talusan says that “you don’t need a data plan with Rogers (or even a WiFi connection) to use Red Rocket on your iPhone or iPod touch.” That means you can, say, be on the subway—sans GPS, of course—planning your next move when you get above ground. It’s just one smart feature of an application packed with them.
Thanks to reader John Henklesmith for the tip. Large image of Red Rocket’s icon courtesy of George Talusan/Red Rocket.

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  • PickleToes

    That’s pretty cool, but I bet you the money used to create this could have been better spent by maybe buying another bus or renovating one of the filthy stations.

  • jen_in_toronto

    You can’t tell that this isn’t an official TTC project? Surely anyone who lives in the city knows enough about the TTC to know how behind it is in technology.

  • Phill MV

    @PickleToes
    Not to mention that the only cost behind it is developer time. I’m not sure a month or two of a couple people’s time would make a drastic improvement.

  • David Topping

    I did think this was pretty obvious, but Red Rocket (like MyTTC, like Walloper’s decals, like Spacing‘s buttons, like ttcrider.ca, like Torontoist’s t-shirts, ridership survey and station photo essay, etc. etc.) is a third-party project, not released by or officially associated with the TTC.
    I also think it’s pretty obvious that the cost of developing this program and of buying a new bus or renovating a station are not at all alike.

  • Loozrboy

    Cool. Far too cool to come from the TTC itself. Now if only there were a way to get actual live arrival times on this thing, instead of unreliable schedules…

  • ariehsinger

    This is a fantastic application. I don’t own an iphone or ipod, but this is definitely something i would pay the 2 bucks for. The reality is, helpful applications that people find useful (and not within the gaming category) is something people are willing to pay for – a community as well – so this is a great addition!

  • jen_in_toronto

    Don’t worry, David…you’ve given enough coverage to these third-party projects that anyone who regularly visits Torontoist (like our pal PickeToes) should be familiar with them by this point. It’s really because of blogs that I know about these initiatives at all.
    I have an iPod touch and I will definitely purchase this program. The idea of being able to check when a bus or streetcar is scheduled wherever you are sounds like a great way to avoid standing out in the cold!

  • atomeyes99

    not knocking the creator – in fact, i sincerely hope they get filthy rich off of this application AND they are able to help hundreds of thousands of TTC riders – but shouldn’t the TTC be behind making this application?
    its pretty pathetic that they don’t have the foresite, vision or budget to create such applications (and, perhaps, to profit off of them)

  • Spicoli

    Sadly, if the ttc were actually behind this I’m sure it would cost a hell of a lot more than 1.99

  • atomeyes99

    the TTC is currently eyeing making an interactive program for riders to use.
    it will be available for all Texas Instrument and Atari computer systems.

  • Greg Smith

    Jen in Toronto: If you’re going to use this with an iPod Touch, be advised that (from what I can tell, using it on my iPhone) arrival/departure times are fetched over the network rather than stored within the application. If you don’t have WiFi access, you won’t be able to check route schedules.

  • PickleToes

    I didn’t know it was third party. But if it is then I take back my comment. I know now that it’s obviously different from that time when the TTC spent money on superfluous “Next train arrives in x minutes” technology.

  • David Topping

    @Greg Smith: “…arrival/departure times are fetched over the network rather than stored within the application.”
    From using the program and speaking to its creators I’m pretty sure that that’s not the case—note my article’s last paragraph, which mentions that the program’s database is included with it precisely so that offline access is possible. To verify this myself, I just turned on Airplane Mode on the iPhone (which disables WiFi/3G/GPS, etc.) and still had no problem checking stop times or searching for routes.

  • rek

    I have an iPod touch but it’s basically worthless as any sort of on-the-go PDA-like wifi device unless you’re willing to pay for that One Zone thing or you know all the free hot spots downtown.

  • redrocket

    @Greg Smith: The database queries run in the background on the iPod touch and iPhone. They don’t use the network. Instead we cycle the “activity” indicator to show you that work is being done while keeping the UI nice and responsive.

  • Kevin Bracken

    This app is amazing. I just bought it and I’m already in love.

  • torontothegreat

    This is amazing and you will get my 1.99 tonight after work lol.

  • Greg Smith

    Ahh, thanks for the correction. To me the “Loading…” text and activity indicator gave the impression of network use, especially because the loading time seems variable (I had assumed this was the difference between 3G, EDGE and WiFi speeds).
    Any plans for a GO Transit or YRT app? I’m sure the data availability is the most crucial factor, but at least GO has relatively few routes.
    The app is great and well worth the $1.99. I haven’t had a chance to use it in a real-world situation yet, as I haven’t needed to know any specific times or try an unfamilliar route since I bought it.
    Is it relly worth it for MyTTC.ca to re-invent the wheel for its own trip planner, rather than adding it to Red Rocket? And of course it’s none of our business, but I wonder how much (if any) of the developers’ revenue from Red Rocket gets passed along to MyTTC.ca? If none, I guess that’s a sound reason for those folks to build their own from scratch.

  • Greg Smith

    As for all of the knee-jerk TTC criticism above, I’d add that the apparent absence of legal threats to the Red Rocket developers is at least a baby step forward (remember the ‘A Warmer Soupy Butt‘ anagram subway map affair?).
    I’m somewhat surprised that the iTTC app hasn’t been cease-and-desisted off off the iTunes App Store for using part of the TTC’s logo for its icon.

  • friend68

    Maybe we should let those guys run the actual TTC.

  • Greg Smith

    @friend68: Sure, because putting together a excellent iPhone App is roughly comparable in scope and skill-set to administering a massive public transportation system. Maybe the developers of Super Monkey Ball should run the Zoo, too?

  • Kieran Huggins

    Just wanted to stop by and say congratulations to George and Hilary for an excellent iPhone app – I can’t stop playing with it!
    Sadly, an offline trip planner is simply beyond the muscle of the iPhone. That being said, we’ve already made some significant headway (if you’ll forgive the pun) on an open API for our existing trip planner, which I suspect Red Rocket (and others?) will make excellent use of when it’s available ;-)
    Red Rocket is exactly the kind of app Kevin and I always hoped would emerge from open data; a fantastic example of what motivated us to build MyTTC in the first place. With any luck, this will help blaze a trail for other agencies to follow.

  • jen_in_toronto

    Thanks to everyone for clearing up the offline/online availability question. And cheers to all of you behind such fantastic projects.

  • brokenengine

    “its pretty pathetic that they don’t have the foresite, vision or budget to create such applications (and, perhaps, to profit off of them)”
    You must be new to the TTC. The rest of us are pretty jaded and used to this, but it seems new to you. Oh, to see the world through such neophyte eyes, sigh. :)

  • brokenengine

    Question: what RSS feed do I would to hook up to, and how do I do it? I am clueless when it comes to RSS.

  • Greg Smith

    @brokenengine: If you mean the RSS feeds for advisories, decide if you want to see only official TTC service advisories, or those from Transit Toronto (which includes all kind of info aside from actualy service advisories), or both. To me these just look like simple on/off toggles that don’t require any knowledge of RSS.
    The third toggle on that screen in the app just tells it to fetch the RSS feeds automatically (or not).

  • brokenengine

    Yeah, Id actually figured that out after i typed this. I hadn’t fully explored the app yet. i thought it was something i had to do through itunes.

  • Bob Brent

    The next version of iPhone/iPod Touch Software 2.2 will have Public Transit Capabilities. Given the close ties between Apple & Goggle, I presume the public transit software will run on Google Maps and require transit data in a Google format.
    The details, including (Google Map-like) screenshots were released on AppleInsider: “iPhone Software 2.2 to add public transit & walking directions”: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/25/iphone_software_2_2_to_add_public_transitwalking_directions.html
    Unfortunately, the TTC is a Blackberry/Windows-only shop (or was the last time I asked TTC CIO in Spring) and all the Senior Execs use Blackberries… so they likely won’t “get” the iPhone’s appeal (despite selling more smartphones than Blackberry (see AppleInsider: Apple iPhone 3G sales surpass RIM’s Blackberry @ http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/21/apple_iphone_3g_sales_surpass_rims_blackberry.html )
    If there is one saving grace, TTC Chair Adam Giambrone DOES use a Mac at City Hall and DOES get technology (Robert Ouelette’s/Torontoist TTC website challenge and follow-up Transit Camp) was/is pushing TTC Staff hard behind the scenes to implement long overdue website redesign, TTC Trip planner and soon hopefully, real-time, anywhere (AVL) vehicle location~the holy grail of transit information.

  • Bob Brent

    Ooops… it looks like the Torontoist blog truncates the URL’s I listed above… go to AppleInsider and search for “iPhone Software 2.2″ (Oct 28.08) and “Blackberry” (Oct 21.08).
    Also of interest is Google Earth release for iPhone/iPod Touch (Oct 27.08). I’ve tried it on my iPod Touch and it works great… simply amazing!

  • friend68

    Greg Smith,
    Well maybe as a compromise, they can just take over the TTC’s web site operation… though I guess that’s outsourcing, so we’d have another wildcat strike on our hands.
    I’m intrigued by your zoo idea though… I hear they are looking for some new management help over there.

  • friend68

    though, isn’t the real question, “How long will it be before the TTC decides to sue them”?

  • friend68

    on that note:
    Berlin Metro Bans Free iPhone Timetable Application
    http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/11/berlin-metro-ba.html

  • David Topping

    @friend68: knowing what I know about the TTC under Adam Giambrone, there is almost no way the TTC will take any sort of legal action against Red Rocket. The TTC is now run by a guy who wants unlicensed merchandise on his walls, not one who sues people who make anagram maps.

  • http://www.raisecain.net Magdalena O!

    So once again Rogers benefits?
    What about us non iPhone users? Especially he large portion of us Blackberry users. Is something like this going to be created? Would be nice. It’s an amazing feature.