Eye's Kate Carraway, in an article about how Toronto media is not even close to being mean, critical, or gossipy enough (which Gawker has already had a field day with): "Safe is too easy to get right, as is the all-consuming earnestness of Spacing, Torontoist, BlogTO and the rest of it. This city has needed these outlets (and also Wavelength and the uTOpia series and their similars) to build a sense of self-confidence. But none of them address this other stuff, this gore, that we need to talk about to be real and relevant. By their very/current nature, they can't."

From Gawker: But Kate Carraway, a writer in Toronto reflecting on that lofty matter of Jessica Roy, actually claims she does. "We have no Julia Allison, the current Wired cover star, and centre of much debate on media celebrity; no Sloane Crossley…" [sic] she laments. Nor do they have a Keith Gessen nor an Emily Gould nor even much, like, blow! ...
Who are these people and why should we care?
I'm glad Toronto isn't full of this kind of crap. Or if it is it's way below the radar and can stay there as far as I'm concerned.
I think the media in Canada is full of enough two-faced, attention whoring, and fear mongering as it is. What she recomends isn't "self-confidence", it's "schizophrenic-paranoia".
Well, this certainly isn't going to do a whole lot to squash the whole "Toronto is just trying to be like New York" meme. (Personally, I want Toronto to be more like Philadelphia. Gawker's "Moe" made it sound pretty cool. Also, it is the city in which the Fresh Prince was both born and raised.)
I do agree with her on some accounts: Toronto media, even the independent stuff, often comes across as way too earnest, candy-coated, desperately inoffensive and all that. But it seems to me that many readers want it that way. And they're pretty very vocal about it: Witness what happens in TOist's comments section when a writer approaches the topic of death or injury with anything but utter restraint and solemness. Toronto can often be a very self-censorious environment for writers.
I'm not necessarily advocating the opposite, though. I don't want our columnists to talk tough if it's going to come across as phony. I don't want to hear about Young People Fucking, especially now that I'm officially Past My Prime. I don't want to create fake celebrities out of nobodies. Actually, I don't want to hear about celebrities, period. I'm happy to treat people like people, regardless of how "glamorous" they might think this industry is.
I think we should be following the example of Citytv: demystifying and democratizing the culture of media, not pretending it's something that it's not.
"I think we should be following the example of Citytv: demystifying and democratizing the culture of media, not pretending it's something that it's not."
Amen, Skippy.
That article was more than a little gross.
What she recomends isn't "self-confidence", it's "schizophrenic-paranoia".
Actually what she is saying that blogs like this one were needed to boost self-confidence.
This is the important part:
The social world of Toronto media is boring, a kind of insidious boring that has consequences. Sure, Toronto lacks the vicious public backstabbing (and front-stabbing) of the New York media octagon, but we also miss out on the attendant adventure, intrigue, insider-ness and truly constructive criticism that comes with such institutional aggression.
I can't believe someone finally said this out loud. And it might be painful to hear, but it's true.
It's the earnestness or sites like Spacing that finally turned me off and led me to stop reading them. They are boring. And that earnestness that will keep them all irrelevant.
It's time to go to the next level, and it doesn't have to be gossip, or Gawker, but for God's sake it should have a sense of humour, be clever, and above all, interesting.
Re: Julia Allison ... worst cover story I've seen of Wired so far. Almost made me cancel my subscription.
A key point seems to be we're relying on THREE blogs to represent the city and cater to a hundred different tastes. Maybe there'd be more room for a couple of earnest blogs if the rest of you who hate this bland beige hell picked up the slack.
What's true? That Toronto needs more self-important people talking about themselves more?
And the alternative to that is irrelivency?
Irrelevent to who? Vapid morons who frequent sites like Gawker?
Perhaps the problem has more to do with what's going on in your head.
"I think we should be following the example of Citytv: demystifying and democratizing the culture of media, not pretending it's something that it's not."
Has anyone actually watched City since the Rogers takeover? Check it out sometime and count the number of Rogers ads, tags, brands and best of all "news items" that cover Rogers related events.
It's sick.
City sure as hell ain't what it used to be.
Toronto media offers no constructive criticism on the state of the city? Are we reading the same blogs? Maybe old media (not owned by Albertans) has taken a pass on pointing out the problems and solutions, but between BlogTO, Spacing and Torontoist the slack is more than picked up.
I don't want to read about people who are famous for being famous, rich because they're glamourous, or important because they show up at parties dressed a certain way. Despite CTV/Much/Global's years of struggling to turn Canada into America Junior, Canadians don't roll like that, yo.
I havn't watched TV for longer then an hour in a year. I just download torrents of shows now to dodge the advertising, otherwise I just get pissed off and turn off the TV if I try watching it. Eventualy downloading and rewatching that episode I was watching if I wanted to see the rest of it.
What's true? That Toronto needs more self-important people talking about themselves more?
Read it again. Go ahead. I'll wait.
What's true is that a boring, timid, earnest media landscape fosters boring, timid, earnest media.
And as for "demystifying and democratizing the culture of media," that's precisely what she's talking about here, just not on TV.
Despite CTV/Much/Global's years of struggling to turn Canada into America Junior, Canadians don't roll like that, yo.
I see. This is why no Canadian reads People magazine, or watches E! Canada, or surfs Perez Hilton or isthishappening. Or has any interest in the rich and famous. Or affects Los Angeles street slang in blog comments.
This puts me in mind of something I read recently:
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/08/hbc-90003447
This is Chris Lehmann, co-editor at Bookforum. He's talking about the U.S. election coverage, but his sentiments are entirely appropriate here. If Toronto media is boring because it doesn't give front-page status to this sort of mutual masturbation, let it be boring.
However—and forgive my quibbling on semantics—it's only boring if we let it be "media." Why aren't Torontoist, BlogTO et al. press? Isn't what they do journalism (sans corporate oversight)? "Media" lumps them in with the likes of eTalk Daily or Perez Hilton which, I allow, "should have a sense of humour, be clever, and above all, [be] interesting."
But these are not the priorities of journalism. If Toronto is a depressing place in dire need of fixing, I need to know that. If others have different opinions on the matter, I need to know that, too. Skippy points out that CityTV was doing a good job of this before Rogers took over. The "media" can continue to omit sober facts if they like; if that makes their content sparse and boring and necessitates cleverness, fine. Like Gauldar, I'll continue to ignore it.
I pass on whatever Kate Carraway is selling.
Y&B - If all it took was reading People or celebrity tabloids, we'd have had a "star system" here 30 years ago. Have you ever watched ET Canada? Ever notice how far they have to stretch to find Canadian connections for the stories they want to cover? How forced Rick Campinelli's excitement is?
Sure Canadians (a few, maybe, from out west) have some interest in the idle rich and famous, but it doesn't follow that importing the model to Canada would be productive or desireable.
If you want aggressive media there must be ways to foster its growth other than encouraging a culture of privacy-infringing paparazzi, 24 hour scandal watches, everything exaggerated and everyone vilified. I'd rather have Canada's earnest and timid media than the bullshit that passes for journalism in the US. Our reporters pull all their punches, but they also don't invent reasons to take swings.
@11: Actually, I don't. I still don't know who Perez Hilton is. I have some interest in Hollywood happenings (like what movies are in production), but I honestly can't remember the names of Pitt and Jolie's kids. I don't really attribute that to being particularly Canadian or American though.
PS But I'm inordinately excited about the new scramble intersection.
To be fair, I think Torontoist is the best of this bunch, even if it tries a little too hard sometimes. Blogto's blandness may be chalked up to it's collective nature and it's desire to be loved. Thank God for flickr or most of these sites would have shriveled up already from lack of content and interest.
But I'm looking squarely at Spacing here.
I happened to be in the printer's shop on other business when the first ish rolled off the press. I was astounded. Surely this thing could not survive and would be quashed like a bug. I believe I was one of the first subscribers, thinking that it was well worth my support and that it would evolve over time.
Little did I know that it would gain a considerable measure of success. And I put up with the earnestness and the blandness because I thought it would get better. It didn't, really. Not only that, rather than cultivate it's own talents it seemed to be too eager to assign lead stories to old media hacks. Who cares?
So I unsubscribed.
I've been waiting for someone to figure it out. Surely, the Gawker style won't work here in Toronto, I get that. But there has to be room for a Canadian hybrid, something with a little more balls to bust us out of our Canadian complacency and sense of security.
Someone will nail it. And mark my words: when they do, it will change everything.
I wish I spent my time just writing endless garbage gossip, just to hone my ability to really put a point on exactly how absolutely inane I think this topic is.
It's like people who talk about the East Cost vs West Coast rap feud thing - like it's a real thing to anyone but the stupidest among us.
Y&B - Why don't you do it then? You think there's a need and a market, you'd read it if someone else did it, so...?
(I still have 4 issues of Spacing from 2 years ago I haven't brought myself to read yet. I bought the map-wrapped set.)
@16: But *you're* that someone who's figured it out! Be our media messiah, Y&B, and rescue us from our own tastes.
Heh, didn't take too long for the challenge to Y&B to come up with the solution him/herself, did it?
It's very hard to pull off "edgy" in print media in Canada, and at this point I wouldn't even try. Vice moved to NYC and even that's gotten pretty mushy. Does anyone remember the late, great Trucker magazine (c. 2001)? That was based out of Toronto, was edgy as hell and kicked ass. But ultimately it failed.
On the web, there's just too much competition. But I'd say there's room for another contender. Guess we'll see.
Yes, a predictable response. But understandable.
It's not a question of saving people from their tastes. It's about injecting something new into the discussion. In the end, everyone benefits, whether you watch it or not.
So let's pretend I did already. Quite by mistake. Let's say that it took off on me and did indeed make an impression and shake things up, albeit in a small but very influential circle. Let's also say that it also gained national attention and a fair amount of heat. And finally let's say that this experience showed me what could be possible, on a larger scale, if one were so inclined.
Next big thing eh? The problem with big things is that they start from little things that cater to fringe audience, but eventually attempt to fill as many other niches as possible to expand it's market. They then all become "bland" in one way or another, or toned down as they grow fat on their success. There is no guaranty that something will work and become the focus of attention. I recommend to try thinking small first, but leave yourself enough room to grow.
We always find it weird when we here Spacing is "too earnest" because we also receive comments and emails saying we're often too critical. What is most important is the tone -- Spacing tries to be sincere and pragmatic instead of snarky and ironic (hello Gawker).
I think blogs like Spacing, BlogTO and TOist acutally fill a void in the conversation about this city -- the Sun, Star, Post, Now, etc are often over-the-top cynical and -- this is where I 100% disagree with Carraway's article -- its much easier to write about the bad than trying to find the positives of our city. What our group of blogs have done is actually change how some of the mainstream media (MSM) reports on events or topics. Together, we've been able to show the MSM that not every article has to fit the bill "if it bleeds it leads".
Earnestness doesn't necessarily mean non-critical. I think none of us should apologize for trying to stay positive in the face of constant negativity from the large media outlets. Without sounding like I'm bragging, Spacing has significant won magazine industry awards (2 time small mag of the year, 2-time editor of the year, and 2-time National Mag Award winner) specifically because we've been able to combine tone and critical analysis without coming across as whiny liberal do-gooders (or so the judges and jurors say). Some people will not agree with this rationale, but they don't have to read us.
Its very easy to be jaded and cynical with the amount of info we are able to absorb these days, and I often slip into this mindset. But I'm happy that Toronto is now filled with blogs that are not falling into the Toronto self-hate trap that permeates the more traditional media.
It's about injecting something new into the discussion.
Be specific: judging by the examples you cited earlier it's about injecting gossip, artificial scandal, irrelevant personal feuds, and the expectation that anyone even somewhat well known is fair game for unwarranted attention 24/7.
It's entirely possible to have a critical and toothy media industry without defaulting to the safe area of manufactured celebrity-anchored entertainment "news".
Enerst goes to camp?
What happened to Frank Magazine?
This conversation is fantastic! I'm not familiar with even half the 'famous' names mentioned, but I kinda liked the article. It read a bit like an academic paper, spiced up for a broader audience: one part Baudrillard, half part Hegel, and frying pan full of Nietzsche! - meaning that the article was 'analysis' of what's going on, but trying to light a fire under our collective ass.
Anyway, it seems weird that, after years of hearing about how terrible the American media is, we have someone begging for it. The 'consumption of consumption'?
For everyone here, I highly recommend Marc Weisblott's Scrolling Eye blog. He shows that it's possible to combine gossip with intelligent and substantive media criticism.
In what way is Spacing “literary”?
Is someone going to call out Blackett on his mentioning his award haul? (No? Isn’t that the problem at the root of this discussion?)
Maybe Wedgie Fulford could write a foreword in the next ish.