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The Perfect Storm of Hipsterdom

Today’s Star has a great article about hipsters (thanks Mark Jull for sending it in), which quotes Stillepost, cites Vice‘s Gavin McInnes, and contests an Adbusters article declaring that “the hipster represents the end of Western civilization.” As part of her argument defending those-who-ought-not-be-named, writer Sarah Barmak notes that “the way people communicate deep involvement—in social change, in discourse, in subculture—has gone from being a below-ground, analogue language of worn, spray-painted or stitched symbols to the daylight of blogs, message boards and other digital mouthpieces.” So it seems only fitting that, just two days ago, a Craigslist Missed Connection posting popped up addressed to a certain female Star reporter, comparing her to Ninja Turtles reporter April O’Neil. Deep.

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  • mister j

    There are so many (too many!) ideas and opinions in these articles! I find the most compelling is one submitted to the Adbuster’s comment thread (Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 08/14/2008 – 18:13. ):
    “BUT now the hipsters are doing the same thing right next to you, so anything you cherish, breakdancing, punk music, real hip hop , real electro music, djing, art, whatever, these hipsters make it look stupid and disposable, because they are willing to use anything that will make them seem cool short term, then they shit on it…”
    Perhaps the response to the hipster movement will be to actually care about things…
    On the other hand, with all the irony, non-belief, and non-attachment, I can’t help but wonder if they are, in fact, the ones who are most serious, attached with high fidelities to their objects.

  • rek

    The Adbusters article was great. Nobody admits to being a hipster, and everything they detachedly cherish is superficial and temporary.

  • Svend

    It’s always been mostly about fashion and style, the Monkees’ empty “we’re the young generation and we’ve got somethin’ to say” could have been sung in any decade.
    Nobody knew James Dean’s opinions but his manufactured look and attitude were revolutionary.

  • accozzaglia

    Which might explain why the hipsters I know and sometimes deal with regard it odd when I clearly express a consistent, developing interest in something and refuse to treat it like a change of Value Pillage clothes.

  • Svend

    A shift away from ironic views and opinions would be welcome. It’s too pervasive in everything.

  • accozzaglia

    Irony is an old literary device. Those trying to be ironic, in aggregate, is where troubles begin.
    I’d add that a shift away from sampling all that exists in lieu of cutting teeth on new things — a very un-post-modern thing to do — would also be a welcome change.
    But if all you’ve done for most of your cultured life is borrow from the past and tried to appropriate it ironically to “express individuality” or effect approval from peers, then removing that from the equation of your cultural knowledge leaves a kind of stark tabula rasa. Nobody likes being thought of as bland, shallow, or lacking urbanity, so hipsters stick with what they know. They’re in this together.

  • rek

    There’s something worse waiting in the wings for the hipsters to shuffle off the stage, and it’s the praise-junkie self-obsessed is-this-an-episode-of-the-OC teens.

  • accozzaglia

    Yeah. I’m really looking forward to that.

  • Svend

    I’m on the fence about that wry sarcasm, accozzaglia.

  • accozzaglia

    It is, at the very least, wry sarcasm and not, uh, an attempt at being ironic. :)

  • Johnnie Walker

    That AdBusters article is a piece of shit. “Lovers of apathy?” Seriously?
    As gross as it feels to find myself agreeing with someone who used to edit Vice, Gavin McInnes rebuttal is a much smarter piece of writing, ditto for the one from Momus he links to (http://imomus.livejournal.com/390994.html).