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King Khantroversy

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Photo by fotograf416 from the Torontoist Flickr Pool.
Ever-eccentric King Khan hit up Toronto a few times last week, playing at the Horseshoe on Wednesday and Thursday, Sonic Boom on Thursday, and Rancho Relaxo on Friday. While the Rancho gig consisted of “punks force-mingl[ing] with jock runoff…and some the finest hipster douche scum in Toronto,” according to Eye, the real fun apparently came at the Horseshoe earlier in the week.
How awkward the ‘shoe shows were depends on who you ask. Reader Sean Beresford e-mailed us an open letter called “Hate-on for Toronto must stop,” which we assumed was probably something about Montréal. No! (Well, actually, sort of.) Beresford was put off by the wrath of Khan on Wednesday night, which included the singer ranting about Toronto a la Rufus Wainwright, calling the audience “so fucking lame,” asking the male members to “show [their] manginas,” and getting disappointed—who can blame him?—when people refused to chant “ass and titties” along with him.
Some fellow attendees, like Jeff Corcoran (friend of the band and former road manager of the King Khan and BBQ Show) blame some members of the audience for Khan’s reaction; Corcoran told Torontoist that Khan was just “baiting” some of the “too-cool pieces of shit who come out to some of these shows,” and that the Wednesday audience was “ridiculously lame,” “just standing there with their arms crossed,” until Khan made the comments and “people actually started moving a bit during the songs.” Success?
Nonetheless, Beresford is “officially Mad As Hell And Not Going To Take It Anymore”: he left early and angrily with a pack of friends. Because it’s a slow Tuesday afternoon, and because Beresford’s chronicle of the evening is masterful in its awkwardness, we’ve reprinted the entirety of his open letter to King Khan after the fold.

The following is my opinion on the all-too-common trend of Toronto-bashing. It has become totally out of control, and as of last night’s King Khan and the Shrines live performance at the Horseshoe, I’m officially Mad As Hell And Not Going To Take It Anymore:
I used to like King Khan. I first saw them a few years back at their roof-raising performance at The Comfort Zone for NXNE. In over 20 years of attending live music, it was one of the best shows I’d ever seen.
Imagine my disappointment then, when I went to see King Khan and the Shrines at the Horseshoe on Wednesday night, and all he wanted to do was insult me and everyone else in attendance.
After the second song, Khan decided to launch into a hate-rant about Toronto, an inexplicable trend that is becoming all-too-familiar from the mouths of anyone who doesn’t live here (particularly those from Montreal, a place that King Khan has called home). “You guys are so easy to pick on,” he said. Funny, I didn’t think that was what I paid for…
After the third or fourth song, further Toronto-bashing ensued. This time his rant was ostensibly brought on by the crowd’s unwillingness to chant along with his boneheaded sing-a-long of “Ass and titties! Ass and titties!”
“You guys are so fucking lame, I can’t believe it.” were his exact words. Then, when an excited fan spilled about seven drops of beer on the stage, he had the audacity to say “Don’t throw beer on the stage! If you throw beer on the stage, I’m gonna come down there…” Oooh. The King wants us to not be lame, but then threatens us if a little beer is thrown around.
[Adds Beresford: "There was one incident where he asked the crowd to show him our manginas (not totally sure, but I think this is when a guy pulls down his pants and hides his 'tackle' between his legs to make it look as if he has no dick). When (shockingly!) no one obliged, he paced around, disappointed. Shortly thereafter someone in the front offered to do it, and he berated him by saying 'No, man. It's too late. It's over.' He sure is hard to please."]
A further misogynist take on David Bowie’s “Rebel Rebel” followed, featuring brilliantly embellished lyrics about fucking a girl in the ass. At this point my crew and I had had enough. We fled to the front patio of the Horseshoe, only to find another group of friends who were out there for the same reason. “I’d rather sit out here and smoke cigarettes that put up with that shit” was one friend’s claim.
What a shame. The Shrines were absolutely KILLER, too—they were clearly ready to bring it, only to be sandbagged by King Khan’s hate-banter.
Open letter to King Khan: If you really, truly don’t like Toronto, don’t come here and take our money under the pretense of putting on a show for us when all you really want to do is insult us. Rather, do yourself and all the residents here a favour: please—I implore you: DON’T COME BACK.

See? Awkward!

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  • bunker hill

    this guy is just pissed because Khan called him out on being lame. toronto is uptight and beresford is just proving the point.

  • timmccready

    Why would you pay to go see a person who’s obviously insane, and then be pissed off when he acts like an insane person?

  • JonathanS

    If you object to being called lame, you need to man-up, storm the stage and defend your honour.
    Also, I wax my mangina, Brazilian-styley.

  • rek

    Khan was on CBC Radio 3 last week and voiced his disappointment with the audience then too, saying the Toronto audience stood out among their recent tour stops as the one crowd that wouldn’t play along.

  • Bunny Bean

    Even the crowd at the Thursday show was lame and I heard from numerous people that the Thursday crowd was much better in comparison!
    On Thursday night I made my way to the edge of the front of stage crowd. I got into it, not in a moshing, head banging sort of way but in more of a boogie (seriously it was nothing that should of ruffled the feathers of the people that I was barely making contact with), when the two polo shirt wearing, pint drinking, crew cut motherfuckers turned around and said “Ummm, do you mind?”. I was simply shocked by the fact that these people in their position to the stage with all the dancing around them had the audacity to ask me to stop dancing. I paid $12 bucks for the ticket, and goddamnit, who the fuck are you to tell me to stop dancing in the one area in the building where dancing is permit and encouraged? It’s not like I got up in the middle of a sold out screening of Saving Sarah Marshall and started to do the fucking twist.
    The guy that wrote that letter needs to understand first and foremost that he’s old and doesn’t know how to have a good time anymore. PLEASE STOP GOING TO SHOWS IN TORONTO, YOU’RE THE REAL PROBLEM.

  • JonathanS

    You mean Saving Sarah Marshall’s Privates?

  • rek

    We Are Saving Sarah Marshall’s Privates

  • mister j

    A bit off topic, but… I like techno/minimal and I’ve noticed it takes a major bomb to get people in a Toronto crowd to even nod their heads along, let alone dance. At the same time, there are always a few people really, really dancing and the rest seem to have their feet in concrete! In Montreal (sorry!) just about everyone is bouncing along and I don’t find this split between the ‘professional dancers’ and everyone else (who are maybe intimidated by the professional dance crowd). Just my humble observation…
    I also really like that hipster douchbag is an adjective. But what about ‘yupsters’?

  • Mark Ostler

    I seriously love me some dancing, and I SUCK at it. But for me, the best dancing is done in a big ole pit of mosh.
    Sunday the 3rd, Kool Haus, Rancid. The punks in this town will always “dance”.

  • lunarworks

    “Corcoran told Torontoist that Khan was just ‘baiting’ some of the ‘too-cool pieces of shit who come out to some of these shows,’ and that the Wednesday audience was ‘ridiculously lame,’ ‘just standing there with their arms crossed,’ until Khan made the comments and ‘people actually started moving a bit during the songs.’”
    King Kahn is somewhat right. I’ve had that complaint for YEARS. That description sounds like nearly every concert I’ve gone to.

  • chenyip

    I think Beresford is racist. He must have something against East Indians.

  • tripper

    Emotionally needy performer meets group of smug, cooler-than-you Toronto hipsters.
    It was never gonna be pretty.

  • jeeves

    at first i was disappointed to have to miss what was supposedly gonna be a killer show. now it sounds like a good thing I had to work that night! funny how people not from Toronto have such a hate-on for Toronto. I lived in London, ON for a year and a half and when I was moving back all I heard from people down there was “why the fuck would you move to that cesspool?!” and my response was “at least Toronto has shit to do in it instead of sitting in a bar and getting pissed and smashing shit on Richmond St”. if King Khan thinks Toronto is lame it’s a good thing he didn’t play at Call The Office in London cos he would’ve apologized profusely for his rants about Toronto. don’t like Toronto don’t fucking come here! there are lots of other killer bands that love our city!

  • leftist

    I was at the show on Thursday, and I thought it kicked ass. I could barely hear what Khan was saying, but I know it was the best Rock show there since Max was still fronting Maximum R&B.
    It’s not even that Toronto is uptight, or doesn’t dance. I mean, whatever. People work, maybe they were tired. The beauty of this whole “concert” thing is that the crowd is welcome to be stoic and the band is welcome to spit on the crowd and so long as nobody starts pulling weapons, it really just doesn’t matter.
    The fact that someone left there and wrong a Strongly Worded Letter is just embarrassing. Please don’t do that again, Sean-dude. You’re speaking for yourself.

  • mister j

    @jeeves
    I’m guessing that was at me about LondonOn… haha This town is dead. A dead city, and I think more needs to be thought about a dead city and why it’s dead. But, for cred (!), I did recently live in TO for 2 years, and much of my growing up occurred there. My heart is out west though. I don’t hate Toronto; I’m coming back soon. LondonOn is just school for me. It is, though, amazing to see a million ‘great ideas’ crumble.
    @ Mark Ostler
    Everyone, and I mean everyone, says they can’t dance but want to. Just move around a bit! Hips, shoulders! Try your hands! Enjoy, but not too much!

  • kyle_w

    Toronto shows always walk to razor’s edge of non participant and puerile dig waving of who can knock down who. I’m amazed at how many shows slide into dick swinging contests and too cool hipster non-involvement.
    Kahn was right to call Toronto on it’s bullshit. No one remembers how to have fun at a rock show.

  • rek

    If you can’t dance but want to practice, try Shake A Tail at Clinton’s on Saturday nights. Nobody there can dance, but they all try.

  • ReluctantTorontonian

    This is so low on the comment totem pole that nobody will read it, but one of the Comics at Just for Laughs last Saturday walked off because he hated the crowd, and Toronto by extension.
    To be fair, though, Toronto does suck.

  • tripper

    Who was the comic, Reluctant?

  • Skippy the Magical Racegoat

    I think I might be one of those people King Khan is talking about! I mean, yeah, I go to shows and mosh if other people are moshing. And I’ll dance at a club where they’re playing, y’know, dance music. I might dance at a wedding if I’ve had a few drinks.
    But I sure as hell wouldn’t know how to “dance” to trashy garage rock, and I wouldn’t really want to know. Maybe I’m just not one of those people who feels the need to dance every time he hears music.
    …you know what kind of people insist on dancing every single time they hear music?
    Frenchies.
    And they look stupid doing it.
    I used to defend Toronto from these kind of attacks, but now I’m thinking we should just embrace it! We ARE “too cool” to have fun. You get it, Frenchy? WE ARE TOO FUCKING COOL.
    People calling us out by posting complaints on internet blogs: most emphatically NOT cool. And most likely, French.

  • das bloaten

    maybe the comic in question sucked shit, hmmm?
    whoopee shit, flavour of the week montrealers hate toronto. how utterly edgy and innovative.

  • bunker hill

    skippy the magical racegoat: you are probably the worst lay ever.

  • kstop

    I was at the Wednesday show too, and the “Toronto sucks” stuff was annoying, but not because I have an opinion, but because I’m not from Toronto originally and therefore couldn’t give a shit. Basically it left me cold and I’d say that was true for a good proportion of the crowd too, because the atmosphere just fell away when he started in on it.
    It is a fairly common phenomenon though, when people in other parts of the country find out where I live, like as not they’ll give a pointed opinion of it and expect some kind of rebuttal. Why should I care what Canadians in one place think of Canadians in another place? Why should almost half the population of Toronto, in fact, have to waste their time on some imaginary rivalry that they’re doubly removed from?
    Of course if you wanted to be bitchy about this particular instance you could always ask, if Montreal’s so great, why he fucked off to Berlin.

  • Skippy the Magical Racegoat

    @bunker hill: False. Like many tragically misguided indie kids, you’re mistakenly conflating the willingness to dance in an extremely graceless, awkward manner with something resembling sexual prowess.
    In any case, your assumption can be easily negated by simply consulting your sister — who, incidentally, could really stand to lose a couple pounds.

  • bunker hill

    skippy: i’m 30,not a kid. rock n roll is about sex. If you dont get rock n roll you don’t get sex. also try googling “skippy the magical racegoat” sometime.

  • Skippy the Magical Racegoat

    @bunker hill: In that case, I’m going to buy as many of these “rock and roll” recordings as I possibly can. Giddy-up!
    And according to Google, I’m closely affiliated with “ebony sex movies,” so I must be doing something right…which records do I need to buy to get that?

  • JonathanS

    @bunker hill: rock n roll is about sex.
    Ahhhh…that explains Khan’s demand to see the manginas.

  • Sean Beresford

    OK here goes:
    I don’t own any Polo shirts
    I don’t have a crew cut
    I DO like to drink pints (does this make me lame? or a racist?!)
    I WAS dancing my ass off… so I dare say I still know how to have a good time – it just doesn’t include being repeatedly insulted by the person on stage. I will never be too old to dislike being insulted. Even if Monsieur Khan only had a select few people in mind, he insulted ALL OF US, including the people who were really into it. And he seemed to be spending as much time and energy doing that as he was playing music. That’s why I left. Any performer who repeatedly insults their crowd doesn’t deserve the stage, or the audience.

  • 6oh

    oh man, this is actually a serious topic???
    I was at both shows, and had a great time both nights. Yeah, the Wednesday crowd wasn’t partying it up, and he called it out, which i found hysterical. If you were anything aware of the personality King Khan was, then you’d know his silliness and banter on stage was no different than the last dozen shows he’s been here (with the Shrines, or with BBQ). Yeah, he crapped on Toronto a bit, but d*mn it made me laugh and then I continued to enjoy the tunes and the night.
    Insulted? Really??? i mean, REALLY? Next time, check your skin thin at the door, ‘cuz it seems Toronto has taken one too many sensitivity courses.
    Corcoran was right, that crowd was LAME. King Khan easily deserves the stage, and i’m sure he digs Toronto, as he continues to come back and continues to put on stellar shows. but geeez, to make an issue of his onstage banter is as laughable as officially being mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.

  • Solex

    The only reason King Khan insulted Toronto is because King Khan is a shitty artist who really can’t hold the crowd, and so has to do what he does. His rock music is probably crap as well.

  • rek

    Probably crap? You might want to give it a listen before judging.