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Shooting Near the Eaton Centre

By Ron Nurwisah, Boy Reporter

2006_11_22shooting.jpgA shooting near the Eaton Centre last night reminded local media of last year’s Boxing Day shooting of Jane Creba. The Star is reporting that shots were fired at a car at the intersection of O’Keefe Lane and Shuter St. Blocks away from the Eaton Centre. As of right now, no victims have been reported.
Police have canvassed local hospitals for people with gunshot wounds but found no suspects. They are also asking business owners to review surveillance footage.

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  • http://www.newmindspace.com kevin bracken

    we should be thankful that this is the news in canada:
    shots fired, nobody killed!

  • Marc Lostracco

    Solving one’s extremely petty disputes with handgun warfare is the height of cowardice. When these guys get caught and arrested, they all cry like the little cowardly babies they are. Yeah, you’re really “hard” now, you selfish piece of societally unproductive shit.

  • http://www.beingtheremag.com Adam

    No kidding, Marc. Obviously it takes a certain level of selfishness and disrespect for society to start shooting a firearm, but to do it in central downtown during a busy time of day is pretty much the height of insenstivity and a sad reminder of what happened on Boxing Day. Thank god no one was killed.
    Obviously more needs to be done to get the message across that the city will not tolerate this kind of crap.

  • Marc Lostracco

    These guys were apparently all riding around in a gigantic “LOOK AT ME!” Escalade, so they obviously have the need for public attention to justify their sad existence. Ironically, it’s their own mind-boggling lack of respect for everyone else that ruins lives.
    Gang posturing and petty turf wars would be eye-rollingly lame if they weren’t so dangerous with firearms involved. What a bunch of total losers. Sometimes I wish there were a set of medieval stocks in Dundas Square for these cowards to be publicly shamed.
    The penalty for possession of an illegal firearm should be equally as severe as the penalty for actually firing it. No exceptions.

  • http://brokenengine.blogspot.com brokenengine

    I firmly believe that we need to make handgun penalties stiff. I mean incredibly stiff. How does 10 year minimum for even carrying a handgun? And harsher penalties for commiting a crime with one, etc etc. And hey, why don’t we also ENFORCE these laws, with no question?
    These assholes have no respect for anything but themselves. So, I say we threaten the only thing they love: them. When they figure out that we’re serious about locking them up and throwing away the key if they even CARRY a handgun, they’ll start getting the message that it’s not worth the trouble.

  • andrew

    Sigh. Prison increases recidivism, not decreases it [except for murder]. I’d say we guarantee a job for every convicted criminal of handgun offenses – they are now responsible for reducing handgun violence. They must tour around their neighbourhood, to start, meeting with their victims and their families, and discuss what has happened. They are responsible for becoming educated on all facets of the issue. They must be able to prove a reduction in the amount of handgun violence before they are allowed to stop doing this, one that can be directly attributed to their efforts. They must learn how to produce a business plan in order to create one to reduce handgun violence, with performance measures and all that. Rather than locking up criminals with other criminals and spending, oh, about $100,000 a year on them to do nothing but learn how to do other crimes.

  • rek

    Don’t get in the way of emotion-based reactions, Andrew! It’s all about punishing people, the long-term fallout doesn’t matter because it can’t fit on the front page of the Sun in 3-4 short words in 60pt type!
    How about 2 years mandatory volunteerism at libraries, homeless shelters, seniors residences, and terminal hospital wards? At least get something positive out of them.

  • Marc Lostracco

    A large number of people in prison are sociopathic write-offs and another large group is there because of behaviour rooted in addiction, but I fully support the use of inmates in positive, supervised social interaction. I know people who’ve been to jail, and they say that the worst part is total boredom.
    White collar criminals should be put to work in their company’s customer complaint centres! Any tough customer service job is a fantastic punishment. As Sartre famously said, “Hell is other people.”

  • http://brokenengine.blogspot.com brokenengine

    And meanwhile, although it costs $100K/yr to lock them up, how much does YOUR suggestion cost? And how easy would it be for a smart criminal to take advantage of that system(answer: really really easy)? And how rehabilitating would that be to other likeminded criminals? I mean, if I saw my buddy get busted with a gun, and then get handed a lot of life changing perks, why wouldn’t I go rob a convenience store?
    Your ideas are really great ideas. So are gingerbread houses and flying unicorns.

  • chris

    i fully support the inclusion of gingerbread houses and flying unicorns in this plan….mmmmmmm, gingerbread.

  • Marc Lostracco

    Inmates are used elsewhere in cleaning-up litter, computer support call centres, building things…and of course, the historical clichés of making gravel and licence plates. Better to put them to work and school than let them rot in a cell.

  • http://brokenengine.blogspot.com brokenengine

    I agree with you Marc, to a point. I am certainly not saying ALL inmates, and I agree that prison is not the answer for a lot of crimes. But we need to get really tough on people that think it’s acceptable in any way to own or carry a handgun. Otherwise, whis cycle of violence is not going to stop.

  • rek

    So that’s what the old cliche of pounding rocks in prison is about? Making gravel? Why didn’t I know this?
    Anyway, I wasn’t talking about people who’d shot at people or were found to have a gun on them following another crime. Simply having a gun is kinda bad enough, but sending them to jail for 10 years for it is overkill and would, I believe, only make them worse.
    As for how much it would cost to get them volunteering (mandatory volunteers are slaves, I guess), how much would it cost to make a form the librarian/floor nurse/etc has to fill out once every week or so to express their dis/satisfaction and give the slave a review? Hell, put the form online and save the ink.

  • andrew

    The Ministry of Community Safety & Correctional Services has the 2nd highest budget of Ontario’s line ministries. It’s increasing. Penal institutions increase recidivism. Maybe you didn’t read that. You’re increasing the amount of tax-payer dollars you spend by the very nature of the system. The more you pour into it, the more you will have to pour into it. Maybe you should also pay attention to the details – “performance measures”, as well as “They must be able to prove a reduction in the amount of handgun violence before they are allowed to stop doing this, one that can be directly attributed to their efforts.” This will save money in terms of money spent on prisons, the justice system, policing, education, and health care. It’s a fiscally conservative and responsible proposal.
    And you know what? What is a harder thing to do, sit in a cell and learn how to commit crimes, or have to meet and listen to the people who’s lives you have affected by your crime? Community circles – in First Nations they’re called Aboriginal Justice circles I think – have a proven track record of reducing recidivism. Pay attention. The Justice system is starting to look at ways of diverting youth from the penal system as a way of saving money and actually achieving rehabilitation.