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Toronto-Montreal Jaywalking Solidarity

2006_5_10jaywalking.jpgApparently police in Montreal will now be fining pedestrians who jaywalk, we figure this’ll be like fining Montrealers for smoking. The anti-jaywalking blitz has raised the hackles of one Torontonian, Joe over at the Biking Toronto blog.
It also raises an interesting question is jaywalking a dangerous social habit that the police need to hand out tickets for or is it just a normal part of vibrant city life?
Cyclist Joe argues that cars and their drivers seem to have an overinflated sense of ownership over the city’s roads:

“It is a little-known fact that the only tax that drivers pay that the rest of us don’t is the gas tax, almost all of which goes into highway construction and maintenance (although a small portion of it is now going towards public transit). The streets of Toronto – those ones you walk and bike on every single day, are paid by local property taxes – which come from all of us – directly (owning property) and/or indirectly (supporting landlords and/or buying stuff at businesses who pay property taxes)….Modern road grids were designed for horse travel thousands of years ago by the Romans. They were paved thanks to cycling advocates 100 years ago. They are not for cars. Cars have just taken over.” [his emphasis].

He goes on to throw his support behind the persecuted jaywalkers of Montreal:

If any Montrealers read this page, I’d like to encourage you to jaywalk more. You own the streets as much as drivers do. They try to break the law to get around faster, so why shouldn’t you?
I’ll be doing more here in Toronto in solidarity with you. I’ll go out walking right now and mess car traffic up on my street by crossing mid-block.

Torontoist agrees with Joe in principle but maybe not in execution. Almost every street in this city with a decent pedestrian life (Queen, Spadina, Bloor, College) has some jaywalking. Heck even a former Minister of Defence turned Leader of the Opposition jaywalks, an offence which would’ve cost him a $37 fine in Montreal. But jaywalking is as much about saving time as it is about self-preservation. You probably won’t see us jaywalking across Lakeshore Boulevard or parts of University Avenue. Police in Toronto have flirted with the idea of ticketing jaywalkers but we’ve never actually seen anyone get a ticket and the amount of times Torontoist has jaywalked we thought we would’ve been nailed with a ticket by now.
That being said our friends at DCist know people who have been smacked by the long-arm of the law. And let’s just be grateful we don’t live in Shanghai where the police force is continuing the fine Chinese tradition of ratting out your fellow citizen.

Comments

  • nick

    I was fined $115 for jaywalking a few years back. I didnt cross a major intersection nor a busy street. I assumed it was crunch time for quotas end of the month.
    It was a long arguement with the cop.

  • jameso

    I had a friend get a ticket for jaywalking like 3-4 years ago in Montreal… not entirely new, I guess.

  • http://www.newmindspace.com kevin bracken

    check out this article about Mark Kingwell’s take on jaywalking
    http://www.pulseniagara.com/printer.php?storyid=463

  • http://www.jillmurray.com Jill

    For Montrealers to follow Joe’s advice and jaywalk more, they would have to stop what they’re doing right now and run across the street and then back, just for fun. Either that or zig-zag to work just for the heck of it.

  • Snailspace

    Jaywalking’s a good way to separate the weak and slow from the rest of the herd – pretty much Darwinism at its best. And chances are, the car’s gonna win every time.

  • Michael

    Jaywalking isn’t always a game of chicken. Don’t fear the street! I totally agree with Cyclist Joe.

  • http://bikingtoronto.blogspot.com joe (bikingtoronto)

    Yeah, I jaywalked across a busy Bay Street between College and Wellesley just now… there’s a handy centerlane there for our jaywalking convenience. :)
    It’s all about personal freedom – are YOU going to let “THEM” tell you when and where you can cross the streets of your city? What if it’s 2 am and you want to cross a deserted street? Are you going to walk down the block to the lights or crosswalk?

  • z

    As a former Torontonian now breathing less-polluted Montreal air, I think these comments are a good argument for TO smog being intellectually damaging.
    Yeah. Great idea. Run out in front of pissy commuters in Montreal, where drivers are totally self-centered and likely preoccupied with lighing a fag with coffee and cell-phone in hand… they’ll still find time to slow and roll back over you twitching carcus to call you a ‘batard-trou-de-cul, fuck’.
    you win.

  • jayseeca

    I don’t have a problem with jaywalking, but some people are not very bright about it. Today, in my car on a high traffic street, with cars moving quite quickly, some guy decides to leisurely jaywalk, to the point where the car had to stop quite suddenly. That, is a terrible jaywalker. If a car needs to slow down for you, you should be fined. No one wants to have hit someone with their car, so why don’t people make is easier, and be a little smart about it?

  • http://mathieu.koumbit.org Mathieu

    Interesting. I live in Montreal, walking and jaywaling are mostly the same thing for me.. Never got a ticket though. I never thought of that as a political statement : more like a way to get to the other side of the street. I’m gonna feel better jaywalking now that I know it has a sound political justification. :) Though, there is a big discussion here about giving the “gas tax” to municipalities, for street maintenance. Montreal could definitely use some money for that!

  • uku

    Memo to Torontoist
    Re Police reaction to jaywalking
    Approximately two years ago our servers and protectors (the Fantino crowd) found that people were crossing the road at will…(jaywalking)…Clearly this was a matter of utmost concern since the fine for said crime was $6. The first of many crackdowns was announced since jaywalking was a behaviour that threatened Toronto’s social fabric.
    The fine was also raised to $50. Not by a vote of council or the Legislature. It was one of those things that the City Solicitor is empowered to do.
    So let’s not accuse Montreal of tightened sphinters on the subject of perambulation
    Cheers
    Uku

  • rocco

    the reason MTL tolerates jaywalking is the same reason it works in NYC — one way streets

  • Sar

    I believe the fine in Toronto is $108 for jaywalking. I work right next to 52 Division and was warned by a member of our security service about the crackdown on jaywalking. One of our staff was fined, but I’m not sure how recently.

  • DRH

    Good call. Encouraging people to go out and walk amongst the traffic.

  • jamesonandwater

    Rocco, you can certainly be ticketed in NYC for jaywalking – I received one when I lived there, and it necessitated going to court, not just sending a cheque to city hall.

  • http://undefined Beverley Purchase

    Is anyone interestest in starting a Pedestrian Protest Group? Because it’s not even safe to cross on a green nowadays! I’ve nearly been run down dozens of times when I was on the green before the car even came along, so I want to stand up for my rights? Who is interested in joining me?