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Transit enthusiast Miguel Syvap have come up with this dream map of the TTC which includes lines along Eglinton, York and more. Yes, subway expansion at this level is unsustainable and unlikely unless money starts raining from the sky (and even then, we kinda think streetcar expansion makes more sense).
Thanks Transit Toronto for the link.
Ed. Note: All of us eager TTC aficianados have tanked Mr. Syvap's bandwidth. Fortunately the fine folks at Transit Toronto are mirroring the image here.
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Wow!
That would be a dream come true.
The link doesn't work :(
I have a question that I'd be interested in discussing, but I know not of a proper forum. Can someone direct me?
Anyway, I was wondering about the merits of the "electric bus" system used in Vancouver. The buses are connecting to the power grid above, and appear to operate similar to streetcars, but with the ability to change lanes as needed. On first glance, it seems better than streetcars.
They're called trolley buses, and Toronto had them until 1992 when they abandoned the system (you can find a full history here).
They had their advantages. They were better at climbing hills than anything except cable cars, but it was something of a bastard stepchild between buses and streetcars. It has the relative inflexibility of a streetcar, and it has the diminished carrying capacity of a bus. The fact that streetcars can carry 25% more passengers per vehicle, and the fact that streetcars can be coupled together, give them sufficent advantage to retain them where they currently run, or add them as LRT lines.
The URL for the history of trolley buses in Toronto is
http://transit.toronto.on.ca/trolleybus/index.shtml
It looks like the map's host has exceded its bandwidth, anyone have a mirror?
I hate streetcars. I'm sorry. Living on St. Clair for the last year has killed any love I once had for them.
Yeah, it looks like we seriously roached the poor guy's limited bandwidth, so I volunteered to host his images on Transit Toronto. The mirror of Miguel's efforts are now found here:
http://transit.toronto.on.ca/archives/maps/miguelsyyap/index.html
JKelly, sorry to hear about your experiences on St. Clair. That would be intolerable for me as well. It is, however, an unusual experience. By the end of the year, things will be almost back to normal and, by this time next year, you'll have a much improved St. Clair Avenue, I think. Sadly, you should have had a much improved St. Clair Avenue by now.
Wow...if Toronto transit was really like that I wouldn't have left...
The blue RT line seems a bit arbitrary to me. Would this basically be an extension of the Harbourfront LRT?
And hey - as it's only fantasy, why not extend the Sheppard Line to Humber College.
Actually, the blue line is based on real proposals that have been around since the 1980s. He's based it on the Downtown Relief Line that would have started at either Pape or Donlands station, headed south to Eastern Avenue and then west along Eastern and the railway tracks, through Union station, stopping at Spadina and Front. Western extensions would have taken it either along the railway tracks or along the lakeshore and up Roncesvalles to Dundas West station. From there, extensions north on both sides would have followed the railway tracks (in the west) and the Don Mills bus route (in the east).
That's great. Thanks for all the info on the trolley buses!
Hi guys! thanks so much for your comments, I feel humbled by the good ones and excited about the negative ones to improve it even more!
To answer the other posts on other sites, this is how the tracks would work out:
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3253/align18hp.png
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1846/align22xa.png
Sorry if I didn’t post the track maps, I just didnt have the chance to add them to the site.