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Days of Carltons Past
A former editor at the National Post once made the argument that society should stop funding public libraries because it impedes the retail sale of books. Some years later, that right-of-right attitude has trickled down to the Post's impressionable little sister, Dose. For their recent publicity event, Dose sponsored promoters to spray-paint the word "TABLOID" all over the city, including on the side of public libraries! Small business owners were also vandalized, as well as private residences and at least one navy blue wall (pictured).
For around a week, it was unclear what the TABLOID tags were supposed to signify, or who was calling the shots on this was 'let's deface public property' operation. As it turned out, the vandalism was promotion for an inconsequential CanWest/Dose event - a "hip" looking glam-rock DJ night on October 26 at the Social. And five days after the event, the grafitti remains.
Aside from the use of a few pejorative adjectives, all of the above is fairly factual. So now, enter the editorial: Dose is a criminal organization. Since it only hires "young, enthusiastic" employees, and that the spray-painting was widespread along predominantly youth-inhabited areas, it would be hard to believe nobody at the daily knew this grafittiing was taking place. Thus, as Dose was funding, and should've been well aware of, this heinous activity, the paper is responsible for damages.
This line of thought mirrors the argument that Jean Chretien is responsible for the misuse of public funds in the sponsorship scandal. The Prime Minister supposedly oversaw all government monies spent, just as Dose has a department to look over all promotional monies spent. As TABLOID was a Dose-sponsored event, with promotional money coming from the paper, we must hold Dose responsible for defacing our public institutions and local businesses in similar fashion. Just as the Liberal Party is paying back misused funds from AdScam, Dose should be forced to re-emburse the city and the businesses affected. Dose of its own medicine? Dose that make sense? Or Dose anyone care? Ujjal Dose-anjh? Dose-actly.
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how extensive is this sponsorship anyway? dose told us they would sponsor something of ours (read: put their logo on our fliers) if we gave out a couple of their stickers.
i don't understand why this couldn't have been the work of the bar itself, or the promoter of the event (who wasn't actually dose)
i dig the "dose is young and hip" logic but dose's headquarters is at don mills and their journalists aren't even that young.
i don't think i can believe this yet.
Gotta love those wacky guys in the promotions department.
The Prime Minister SUPPOSEDLY (?)oversaw the theft of our tax dollars. They created and ran the program, then benefitted from it. Now if Dose payed people to spray paint then they are responsible, but you seem to be idicting them without verification. Are you as critical as all grafitti artists?
Dave
FUCKING HELL PEOPLE!!!! WE ARE NOT PAID BY DOSE. TABLOID IS MY FUCKING NIGHT. DOSE DID NOT PAY FOR OUR PROMOTING IDEAS OR GIVE ME THE FUCKING PROMOTING IDEAS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT US AREN'T YOU?!??!?!?!?! FOR ALL THOSE "SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS" THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.. THERE WERE A FEW THAT WE DID IN STUPIDITY, TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR AND HELPED COVER. THEY ONLY OCCURED ON A SMALL FUCKING STRIP OF QUEEN WEST WHERE, IM SURE, MUCH MORE OFFENSIVE FUCKING GRAFFITI EXISTS. I AM SO SICK OF YOU CONSERVATIVE MORONS IN TORONTO THAT THINK ONE THING AND DON'T EVEN ASK FOR THE FUCKING TRUTH. WE ARE NOT DOSE. WE ARE NOT DOSE. ALL DOSE DID FOR US WAS GIVE 2 FUCKING YOUNG 20 YEAR OLD MUSIC LOVERS HOPING TO REVIVE THIS PATHETIC TORONTO MUSIC SCENE AN AD IN THEIR PAPER. FUCKING HELL WE TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OTHERS. EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. sorry about the spelling errors and rediculous use of caps.
also that picture is fucking pathetic... that wasn't the real thing we spray painted.. ours was a stencil. and it's a picture from the boards surrounding a burnt down church. that fucking black board used to be covered with shit and they're just advertising for more rediculously priced condos in little italy. once again we are NOT dose promoters... I have little to do with DOSE... they did not pay for our promotions. I worked my ASS off promoting this fucking night and it was a fucking incredible night. the other girl that works with me won a contest off dose... THAT IS IT.
Somebody has a potty mouth
damn, shoelover beat me to it.
Come on, do people really give this much consideration to Dose ... even as a (pretty unclear) joke? Hopefully you'll get the job you want (and may not be undeserving of) there, Josh.
It's a first for you Josh, someone called you a CONSERVATIVE MORON! Not the moron bit perhaps, but the conservative for sure!
Oh, and it's Ken W-h-y-t-e (not "White" as you have in the URL :)
The young people don't care about him, either, much as he thinks they do/can/will.
yes sir!
three points:
a) doesn't matter the degree to which dose sponsored the event. as a responsible corporation, they should've set out clear rules as to how the dj night would work ie. tell tabloid promoters not to deface property. in the future, they should be weary of which events they affix their logo to.
b) the dj night is not the issue here either. nor is how hard anyone worked on the night, nor is other forms/instances of graffiti. the issue here is that the word "TABLOID" was spray-painted on my local library (public space, anyone?). there are lots of dj nights in the city, none of which use this sort of marketing. what gives these people the right to spray-paint promotional messages all over my neighbourhood? this is the crux of the post. great that alana and her buddies are paying for their mistake. that's all i ask.
c) mw - no one cares about URLs.
The Beer Store on Dundas West around Dovercourt had just completed renovations, including two large black pillars right at the front of the store. About one day after the scaffolding came down, someone spraypainted "TABLOID" in large white letters on the front of both of the two pillars.
It stayed up for several days until the Beer Store painted over it. I'm sure they really appreciated having their store defaced 24 hours after the renovations were completed.
so perhaps this post should be titled "dose NOT behind spray-paint scandal?"
i actually like these guys...
i've got nothing against dose. i just like the idea of responsibility within advertising. since dose promoted the event (ad space in newspapers are not free), they have a responsibility to assure they are not promoting anything illegal. i don't think i have to tell you there are lots of illegal ads in the city, and each time i believe the sponsors should accept the repercussions.
makes perfect sense to me...but then that's why i wrote what i wrote.
Well. I'm not sure whether Dose will be weary of future events branding, but I'm certainly weary of this thread. And why did that beer store even need a renovation (nice as it is)? I mean it's just a beer store, is that a good use of its profits?
"since dose promoted the event (ad space in newspapers are not free), they have a responsibility to assure they are not promoting anything illegal."
... it's also illegal (or at least morally bankrupt) to actively peddle a paper to children that contains pornographic content, under the guise of being edgeee, something which Dose is guilty of. And really deserve to be called on it.
Maybe your associates in Don Mills could benefit from some perspective on that? Would be a bit more interesting than this roundabout display of showing that you're not "down" with "The" "Man".
or maybe it's a nice story for your associates at the star? would fit well into the media gossip section there. i can see it now. and when can we expect your column to show up, marc? i think your first order of business should be a verbose discussion of which blonde star columnists/bloggers wear leather pants on a regular basis. (now that is morally bankrupt.)
The 1,000 regular visitors you have here are worth more than the 10,000 (?) in Toronto glancing at Dose as an alternative to reading the back of their bus transfers. But there are several things more deserving of a proper thrasing in the way you've attempted with this post. Don't wimp out.
As for Antonia, she has never actually written to any substantive degree about Dose--which should tell you how (ir)relevant it has been on her side of the fence.
Is the relation implied between Dose and this particular night overstated? Does that mean when a promoter - or nightclub - spraypaints the sidewalk in 'Clubland' (Happens every year) do we call for an assessment of the sponsorship of Molsons? Or Bacardi?
I think Dose gets a pass on this one. If you want to point out the shortcomings of that paper just point to the ridiculous writing found inside its pages.
MW,
did you really say "down" with "The" "Man"??
That's ghey. Not gay like hot sweaty man sex, but ghey as in lacking authenticity.
Josh,
Antonia? Who cares!
MW,
children seeing porn in Dose. Hmmm have you heard of the thing George Bush the Younger calls the 'Internets?' Seem like there is a little bit o'porn there.
Boy I too wish it was 1795 and children were not exposed to this kind of thing and the wealthy could bang their slaves.
If you really think the anarchy of the internet absolves CanWest from any responsibility in what they put in suburban streetcorner boxes while specifically targeting a pre-teen audience, then maybe you're not old enough to comprehend ...
Dose's social responsibility, or lack thereof, has weighed on Josh's brain lately more than mine. So, why not follow up, and make a statement in the process? He knows how to contact them. Or, someone who has no personal ties to the company can read this and follow through instead. But, in light of his rantings here, I'd like to read Josh's take either way.
there's no wimping here...the leather pants joke was a joke. i think you know i don't have any pull/association with canwest, at least not to the degree where i can reformat their national papers. though i wish i could. the people with the authority and platform to thrash dose are ones with media columns in widely-read newspapers. so take your dose gripes to her if you feel so incensed.
and i never raised the issue of sidewalk spray-painting. it's probably calls for a legit assessment, but that’s not my concern at the moment. my very clearly stated problem was with the my local library, and the promotional spray-painting thereof. since, as a taxpayer, i pay for the upkeep of said library, it is of ultimate relevance to me (and maybe other taxpayers?).
sure there are lots of issues with dose, torontoist, the post, leather pants and spelling, but here we're drawing a line in the sand: don't endorse, financially or otherwise, library vandalism. and at the very least clean it up after your event.
... and I'm saying YOU have more sway when it comes to making a media corp take a second look at why they're peddling smut to 10-year-olds under the guise of hipster marketing than The Toronto Star's leather-panted media critic might.
It's the same sensibility that produces this vandalism, but the content of the paper is a more significant issue.
To Tabloid,
Why did you spray paint a library. I mean c'mon, I was under the impression that there was some kind of code among graffiti artists not to tag/spray certain buildings (daycares, people's houses, etc.) Queen Street shops might be able to accept it and deal with it but libraries.
If the graff community doesn't draw the line somewhere (no tagging on war memorials, tombstones, public buildings) then someone else might draw that line for you and it won't be so kind.
Also, damn you Josh. I think you beat my record of comments! I'm going to have bring Antonia Zerbesias into my next post.... somehow.
MW,
My point is that you can't put the genie back into the bottle and you can't get nostalgic and say things were better back then. Our society is definetly less polite and more debased. Young people today see a lot more violence/porn/drug use than they did even ten years ago. Dose is just a crass extension of an overwhelming trend.
I think it is artificial to point a finger at Dose for the so called porn in their paper, whilst your own blog headlines and highlighted phrases include 'Sex and the Sleepy', 'From Strippers to Students', and the ever popular Paris Hilton porn reference 'One Night in Perez', 'Pornoween', 'res erection' each complete with titalating - albeit not pornographic - images and salicious prose.
To be sure your site is not aimed or marketed at youth, but there is precious little that stands in the way of them accessing it.
Josh,
you are right. Don't tag the library.
So. To recap:
1) Josh believes that Dose has moral/legal responsibility for all activities of every event to which it lends any sort of sponsorship. The chain of command, from National Post editors, to Dose promotional/adverstising staff, to local DJ’s, can take years to function, but is still powerful. It is not that he has anything against Dose. He just thinks it is an impressionable criminal organization that opposes public libraries and funds vandalism.
at this point, i'm willing to call it terrorism.
doserrorism?
2) We should forgive their mistakes of the people from doing the graffiti, as they are singlehandedly tryihg to revive this city's music scene, which is presumably hard work. Also they do not like morons.
3) Also, the Tabloid people take full responsibility for some of their actions. The level of responsibility does not preclude using spray-paint cans as the image in the ad for their next show:
(For some reason, the web-form won't let me post the url. But the ad is a big picture of a spray-paint can...)
"To be sure your site is not aimed or marketed at youth, but there is precious little that stands in the way of them accessing it."
No, I think I'm on the right side of the line--as if you need any more verification that I'm the furthest thing from a genie-back-in-the-bottle type. There is nothing on my site that would hold the attention of pre-pubescent kids. Just like there are tonnes of smutty books inside the library that belong on those shelves.
Lots and lots of terminology and images on Dose that I would never use in my current site, especially during their recent "Porn Week". Furthermore, the only reason they use it, along with the 5th grade writing style, is to draw eyeballs to equally crass advertising for ringtones, etc.
When I'm dealing with kids of the age that are on the lower end of the demographic scale Dose is clearly targeting--and reaching via their distribution platform--I don't discuss these topics with them--let alone be the one *raising* the topics--and I can only presume Noah Godfrey and his gang wouldn't either. (This stuff was in the furthest reaches of my mind of late, but Josh's post dragged it out of me.)
"No, I think I'm on the right side of the line--as if you need any more verification that I'm the furthest thing from a genie-back-in-the-bottle type."
Unfortunately, I have had no real experience of you as a writer or personality until about three hours ago, so I don't know what side of the line you stand.
(Actually - this is funny - I thought you were Matt Blackett, the dude with the subway pins and the strip in eye, and writes for that quarterly Toronto mag, spacing? Spaces?)
How old were you when you started looking at the back pages of Now Magazine or Eye? I know that I would search out these things as soon as I heard of them.
My basic objection is that we can't tell kids that things don't exist or aren't prevalent when there is evidence to the contrary all around them.
They see right through it.
We can't pretend that we didn't go searching for the things that we weren't supposed to at their age and all Dose does is capitalize on that.
And calling out Noah Godfrey for crass commercialism won't get anyone anywhere. You might as well call water wet.
Look, it's all about context. They're trying to capitalize on a sensibility that's flourished on blogs, right? But dumb it down and get it to children. If there's an xxx-esque thing on Gawker or Boing Boing or Torontoist or Paved (and any topics or puns I deal in are no more raunchy than Maclean's these days--and the posts you alluded to are clearly mocking that sexploitative mindset) it's entirely different from having it in a free newspaper in boxes outside a school and putting that sensibility front and centre.
Indeed, I'm well acquainted with the ridiculousness of Young Mr. Godfrey's role, and the lip service he was paying to "user generated content" when they started Dose was beyond laughable.
Since this discussion has actually motivated me to count the ads in the paper--whose survival I am contributing to by picking it up--I wonder if it will last into 2006.
(My passive-aggressiveness toward Josh is based in my opinion that he's doing a better job at what he's doing with $0.00 than Dose has ... in case anyone is keeping score.)
All comments about Dose -- fair or otherwise -- aside, I have a question in the interest of full disclosure: how many people who post to this blog have applied for jobs there? I can name one, and I'd bet my savings there're plenty more.
Anyone?
I think because Dose's Toronto offices are in the same building as the National Post, there's a bit of a misunderstanding as to how they are related. They are both part of the CanWest Mediaworks Publications, which includes 11 dailies across the country, Dose, Metro in Vancouver and Ottawa, free weeklies in B.C. like the Langley Advance, and "shoppers" like the Toronto's Real Estate News and Buyers Guide. The Post and Dose don't have any staff in common and are more cousins than big and little sisters.
All of which is to say that connecting something a National Post editor who is not even at the paper anymore said (and said before Dose even existed) with Dose is a little disingenuous.
Perhaps more disingenuous is saying that Dose is behind this graffiti, which it isn't, instead of noting that Dose sponsored the event that was promoted in this unappealing fashion. Calling "Tabloid" a CanWest/Dose event is about as accurate as calling the Toronto International Film Festival a CTV/Globe and Mail event, because they sponsor it.
Sponsors should not be unaccountable for what they sponsor, but I'm willing to bet that no one at Dose even knew about the "Tabloid" graffiti... If you want to criticise Dose, do so. If you want to criticise Dose for sponsoring this event, do so. But this is silly.
wrong on a number of accounts, jkelly:
a) the anti-library ideas were said very recently, and it was the abstract idea that is of interest. not the editor.
b) i just saw the godfrey kid on the back page of the post. cousins with benefits? besides, this relationship isn't what we're talking about here and thus is of no interest to me. it's about anti-libraryism.
c) if the filmfest screened a hate film, or even a porno, you'd better believe some fingers would be pointed in the sponsors direction. and rightfully so.
d) and finally, save your bets for the casino my friend. dose is in these areas constantly...that dandy warhols event was half a block from the library in question.
"They are both part of the CanWest Mediaworks Publications"
Yeah, like that would last more than a week if they hadn't changed the rules on income trusts...
The fixation on Ms. Zerbisias' pants is a bit disconcerting.
"if the filmfest screened a hate film, or even a porno, you'd better believe some fingers would be pointed in the sponsors direction. and rightfully so."
The Brown Bunny played at TIFF. I'll say no more.
a) I was just going by what you wrote in your post: "Some years later..." If I was wrong, it was only because I trusted you. So, anyway, thanks for finding something else wrong in your post.
b) Yeah, it's of no interest to you. That's why you keep tarring Dose with the old National Post brush like you did in this post.
c) Uh, yes. But if they pointed all the fingers at the Globe and Mail, I'd suspect they had a vendetta against the Globe and Mail. And if they called the film fest "a CTV/Globe and Mail event", they'd be wrong. Like you are.
I didn't say you shouldn't criticize Dose about this, just that it is a mite ridiculous for you to not criticise "Tabloid"'s promoters and the organizers first and fellow sponsor/host The Social in equal amounts.
You are silly.
you don't want an event that canwest/dose created, organized, promoted, sponsored and attended to be referred to as a canwest/dose event? is this your issue? if so, you clearly don't share my respect for libraries. let me remind you, the library predated the printing-press, and thus newspapers as we know them today. and i know for a fact that both the post and dose have something akin to a library within their offices. libraries are a valued institution not only within canada, but throughout the world.
the un-named editor left the post, and some years later, it would appear (there's no way of knowing for sure) that this editors attitudes have manifested themselves on the floor below.
if you scroll up, or even check the links that i have provided, you will see that the promoters have taken some of the responsibility. and venues have rarely have anything to do with promotion, thus absolving the social. so...who's left? dose! and, as i've stated before, i have nothing against dose beyond this blatant disregard for my public library. not so silly afterall..is it?
and even if it is silly, let me remind you of this very recent comment:
"Down with earnestness! Up with ridiculous protests!"
- JKelly
Sylvie,
I have never approached Dose for a job.
mw,
I am not sure what the exercise of counting the ads in Dose will accomplish. If you are looking for weight to your arguement that they are using sexualized references to attract pre-teens then, OK, you are right.
So What?
True, it isn't pretty or taking up any sort of moral high ground but, So what?
I think it is embarassing that Dose is what passes for cutting edge in Toronto. I don't think it does and I think that the pre-teen audience you say they want to sway are smarter than that.
Dose may make it in the sticks ( i.e. the rest of Canada except Montreal and Toronto) but I don't think this city will embrace it beyond something a bit more interesting than - as you say the back of a transfer.
Maybe I am ridiculously protesting your ridiculous protest. Did you think about that?
FOR THE LAST TIME... we (I) am not a DOSE PROMOTER. I am an indepenant DJ that used the oppertunity to battle against fakers like the mod club and other big rediculous clubs by taking the oppertunity with a DOSE ad given to us because (coincidently) my fellow DJ and rroommate won her equiptment from them. I 'm sorry about the library too that was just plain stupid. I hope I've cleared up somethings. finally. and if you havn't noticed the spray painting thing is very tongue - in-cheek it was only supposed to stay on the sidewalks but, alas, we got carried away. just come out once and let me prove that tabloid are worth all of this hoopla.
Yo Alana, one of your Tabloid buddies is currently in the employ of those Mod Club "fakers." In fact, he's pictured in your October flyer. Well done.
i have nothing against mod club. i go quite often... i meant that the size and the crowd makes it difficult for an indie club to compete with them. "fakers" was the WRONG word. definately. and of course this is purely my opinion not necessarily the opinion of the other two djs. once again i don't think that the mod club is "fakers" ... i don't even remember writing that until my fellow dj called to yell at me. whatever....
Alana I heard wheels screamin' on that back peddle! Nice one.
i have a big mouth... what can i say? i really do love those involved with mod club though.. they're friends of mine. which makes it even stupider... ithinki have said enough here. good night.
"ALL DOSE DID FOR US WAS GIVE 2 FUCKING YOUNG 20 YEAR OLD MUSIC LOVERS HOPING TO REVIVE THIS PATHETIC TORONTO MUSIC SCENE AN AD IN THEIR PAPER."
..................................
umm, what the fuck?? the toronto music community is thriving. and i seriously doubt your night had ANYTHING to do with music from toronto, and more to do with being another dj night for the parkdale yuppies and their trendy coke habits. stop pretending you know us.
............................
love,
the pathetic toronto music scene
This is such a non-starter of an argument. Your first clue that we (DOSE) had nothing to do with this is, quite simply, it would have been even bigger, better, and instead of spray-painting our slogan on a library - we'd have painted it across Torontoists Head-Offi—errr I mean, Josh's house.
Holy cow, I went away and a full scale brawl erupted!
Alana, are you gonna take that from DOSE?
i've already gotten myself in enough trouble... i'm playing the wimp card for now. anyways, i thought that the dose comment was kinda funny.
just keep digging yourself that hole alana...
well, at least alana managed to spell tabloid properly.
mmm . . . trendy coke habits
Dear Tabloid Douchebags,
You still owe me $20 for paint remover. Are you going to pay up, or not.
Please advise. I'm getting a little bored of chasing you around "the internet".
Regards,
Brian
Rotate This
Toronto, ON, Canada
So i won the dj equipment, i really am completely amazed that there has been so much talk about all this really. we're literally 3 poor torontoians, who, probably like a lot of people in toronto are getting bored of some of the nights, so we figured hey? why dont we do something. the spraypaint was just a gimmick, it wasnt supposed to be taken seriously but a lot of people have blown this way out of proportion. anyone remember the val kilmer graffiti? or just really random bad graffiti? i mean come on, we have way bigger problems to worry about than some red letters ona sidewalk. now, ive already taken responsibilty for a few places and have fixed it, brian: i will pay you you're $20 and probably buy a couple records. i'll stop in this week, or email me and let me know when you're in so i can perosnally talk to you. we didnt mean to be assholes at all, i mean look at the outside of rotate this, its not some chic frou frou restaurant right? - and i like it that way. a lot of kids come in and we thought itd be a neat and somewhat original way of getting people interested in the night.
and with dose, they have nothing to do with it. they just wanted to help us out cause
a they gave me technics 1200's (!) and wanted to just advertise themselves about how great they are (which they are dont get me wrong)
and b. because they can
- takes deep breath -
THEREFORE
all in all, we just wanted to get people to know about our night. shit happens, but people we should really focus our time and energy onto more productive issues and things. this isnt something people should be losing sleep over. it's almost lame to think about how uptight toronto really is. im leaving my email so if you have any questions or whatever write personally and we can get through this whole thing together !!
- with tender love and care.
olganyc@gmail.com
incase it doesnt work.
^^Transplant^^
Olga, Tabloid et al...you are all fucking retards. I hope to hell that someone comes to your place breaks some shit of yours and makes you pay out your own pocket to fix it.
Go back to NYC you dj whore.
we pay/ paid for the shit that people have asked us to. we covered the shit... etc. SINCE WHEN ARE WE FROM NYC?!?!? is this a new one? fuck you who ever you are. at least we put our names up when we post on a fucking message board.
SUMMARY
Grrr. rahr. woof woof! f@#%$ you! no, f@#K YOU! Arrrgh, grrr . . . My music's better. No, mine! Grrrr. You painted my concrete! I am SO sorry, loser. RAHR! Yankee go home! I ain't no yankee, f$#@ you! GRRR.
olganyc@gmail.com, speculative? Sure! But if you are that lame to put a city that your not from in your email you deserve a flame!
and Tabloid is your name? or do you go by your full name, a?
Learn to R E A D
All of you have way too much time on your hands. "TABLOID" tried to create a night that isn't one of those boring VICE-esque 'ironic' nights. You are comparing a minor sponsorship by DOSE magazine to the Sponsorship Scandal!? Somebody really wants to be a journalist! You are trying to make something bigger than it really is - that is retarded. The graffiti was a gimmick (and it worked, because you are talking about it), and they screwed up! So what? As long as they are taking responsibility, that's fine with me. And as pointed out - what happened to the shitty Val Kilmer graffiti? Has anybody complained about that shit!? It is not ART, it is one level 'down' from the "TABLOID" tags - at least the "TABLOID" tags looks better. Let's move onto real issues. This is fucking redundant.
**Disclaimer**: I am not involved in "TABLOID", "DOSE" or "The Social", I just think it was a great promotion - too bad there doesn't exist water-based spray paint.
THANK YOU!!! i love you please come out and make love to me... by the way... NOVEMBER 23 is the next TABLOID!
oh get over it all of you...tabloid was fun and ya sure graffiti is kinda bad but if it was removed then there's no harm done besides for like a day and people need to forgive and give a little bit of leeway to those who actualy create an initiative to serve the public and enrich their lives. tabloid was fun and you were all just very jealous that u didn't go.
if you all have such a problem with the way tabloid promoted themselves, why on earth are you giving them even MORE exposure by continuing to respond to their trite excuses for their pathetic night? because of all this banter, these girls have so much fodder to base future promotion on - they now think people actually give a shit about tabloid and who was "wronged" by this article, and how "innovative" their antics are. unfortunately, there is no such thing as bad press, and i'm sure all this attention is giving them egos the size of...new york.
if you really want something to complain about, maybe it should be the fact that we're letting trashy illiterates dictate our social lives.
you're not so sweet..jane..
what do you do with your time? sit and watch reality TV with your cats at home with your parents?
sweet, jane.
The fact that this is news is ridiculous, isn't there better news. "Dose" has nothing to do with anything. Whoever wrote this article is a complete moron and should be responsible for the fact I have to read garbage journalism. Find something interesting to write about you fucking clown. Maybe you can create a pandemic like sars to blow out of proportion and then write about how it destroyed the city's economy. If I had a can of spray paint I'd spay RETARD on this guy's head. Yeah thats right I went there!
Rob Analog.
Quit your whining and get a new hobby.
You're all bloody pathetic.